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Posted: 6/3/2016 12:28:53 PM EDT
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Anything is better than FrogLube
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Posted: 6/3/2016 2:08:25 PM EDT
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Never heard of it. Is ALG suppose to be a play on algae? Like it's made from some miracle moss? Curious to see how it works, especially if its made from natural stuff.
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Posted: 6/3/2016 5:14:11 PM EDT
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Never heard of it. Is ALG suppose to be a play on algae? Like it's made from some miracle moss? Curious to see how it works, especially if its made from natural stuff. ALG is a company, owned by the wife of the owner of Geissele. ETA: I think that's how it works anyway. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 9:47:27 PM EDT
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So I just received two bottles of this stuff. Has anyone had experience with it? IDK how much I can trust a lube that literally smells like crayons (no lie). It mentions nothing about corrosion inhibition or rust prevention. It's also very liquidy. More than froglube or any clp. Maybe post your question in the Geissele Industry forum. They should know the answer. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:13:32 PM EDT
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Never heard of it. Is ALG suppose to be a play on algae? Like it's made from some miracle moss? Curious to see how it works, especially if its made from natural stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Never heard of it. Is ALG suppose to be a play on algae? Like it's made from some miracle moss? Curious to see how it works, especially if its made from natural stuff. I guess that depends on your definition of "natural"? Go Juice is a bio synthetic lubricant made from GMO seeds specially made to produce this oil. Here's an article: Geissele’s New Spring and Go Juice |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:42:20 PM EDT
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I got an email about it.
I may try it sometime but I have enough stuff for now. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 5:57:49 PM EDT
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I received a bottle of it reciently myself and it seems extremely runny to me. Every other lube I have is tons thicker than the Go-Juice.
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Posted: 8/3/2016 1:49:56 AM EDT
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So I've been using this and while I don't really care to care about the crayon smell. It actually works quite well. I haven't fired one of my weapons for a couple months and there is zero gum up so far.
It aeems to clean well or at least better than some of the other competitorss. My biggest issue is that it's not thick enough. It's about the same consistency as 0w-20 synthetic oil. I also mixed it with tungsten disulfide to enhance its properties. So far I guess it the thumps up. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 11:42:49 PM EDT
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IDK how much I can trust a lube that literally smells like crayons (no lie). I recently got a bottle of it myself from Geissele's website when I went to order their rail. It reminds me of the old bottle of LSA that goes in the elmer's glue container. And yes, it smells funky. I'm not sure if it smells like crayons, but it does smell "purple" to me. As far as it working, I do find it work very well. As with any bio based cleaner, I found they all turn into sticky goo after storing it for a while on the metal. Froglube turns into a nearly slimy, sticky glue and I'm fairly sure ALG Go Juice is no different but I didn't have sufficient time to really test that. It took me nearly two years to figure out the Froglube problem and that was only because I clean my gun prior to going shooting but couldn't figure out why the same guns didn't function if I left it on the shelf for a week or two after cleaning it with froglube. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 1:22:34 AM EDT
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I recently got a bottle of it myself from Geissele's website when I went to order their rail. It reminds me of the old bottle of LSA that goes in the elmer's glue container. And yes, it smells funky. I'm not sure if it smells like crayons, but it does smell "purple" to me. As far as it working, I do find it work very well. As with any bio based cleaner, I found they all turn into sticky goo after storing it for a while on the metal. Froglube turns into a nearly slimy, sticky glue and I'm fairly sure ALG Go Juice is no different but I didn't have sufficient time to really test that. It took me nearly two years to figure out the Froglube problem and that was only because I clean my gun prior to going shooting but couldn't figure out why the same guns didn't function if I left it on the shelf for a week or two after cleaning it with froglube. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IDK how much I can trust a lube that literally smells like crayons (no lie). I recently got a bottle of it myself from Geissele's website when I went to order their rail. It reminds me of the old bottle of LSA that goes in the elmer's glue container. And yes, it smells funky. I'm not sure if it smells like crayons, but it does smell "purple" to me. As far as it working, I do find it work very well. As with any bio based cleaner, I found they all turn into sticky goo after storing it for a while on the metal. Froglube turns into a nearly slimy, sticky glue and I'm fairly sure ALG Go Juice is no different but I didn't have sufficient time to really test that. It took me nearly two years to figure out the Froglube problem and that was only because I clean my gun prior to going shooting but couldn't figure out why the same guns didn't function if I left it on the shelf for a week or two after cleaning it with froglube. I had a rifle with froglube extreme (locked up obviously) for a good amount of time (4-5 Mo) and it pretty much turned into dried Elmer's glue. With the Go Juice it's supposed to have used a GMO vegetable product for the oil so I'm assuming we should be safe. I mixed tungsten disulfide to amplify lubrication. Works solid. Most of the people I've talk to think it smells like crayons though. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 2:33:13 AM EDT
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After my FireClean experience I'll never use anything but modern synthetic lubes on a weapon.
I don't care how good it smells or how it rubs my feels about the environment. Anything "Bio- based" or Biodegradable will degrade with time and gum up. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 8:46:13 AM EDT
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just got a bottle of the go-juice, used it on my 9mm carbine. worked great and easy clean up. i put the go-juice on my carrier, charging handle and hammer. slick stuff.
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Posted: 8/20/2016 6:03:48 PM EDT
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I'll stick to my Walmart special wheel bearing grease.
I just can't get behind "gun lubricants". I mean I just have a hard time believing these mom and pop gun lube companies can actually do the research that big car lube companies do. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 6:52:38 PM EDT
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I'll stick to my Walmart special wheel bearing grease. I just can't get behind "gun lubricants". I mean I just have a hard time believing these mom and pop gun lube companies can actually do the research that big car lube companies do. The reputable ones do. Wheel bearing grease works I guess, I wouldn't want that gooey stinky stuff all over my rifle though. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 8:47:47 PM EDT
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The reputable ones do. Wheel bearing grease works I guess, I wouldn't want that gooey stinky stuff all over my rifle though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll stick to my Walmart special wheel bearing grease. I just can't get behind "gun lubricants". I mean I just have a hard time believing these mom and pop gun lube companies can actually do the research that big car lube companies do. The reputable ones do. Wheel bearing grease works I guess, I wouldn't want that gooey stinky stuff all over my rifle though. You don't need it all over. I have some that is unscented and honestly you only need it on like 5 places on the BCG. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 2:36:24 AM EDT
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So I've been using this and while I don't really care to care about the crayon smell. It actually works quite well. I haven't fired one of my weapons for a couple months and there is zero gum up so far. It aeems to clean well or at least better than some of the other competitorss. My biggest issue is that it's not thick enough. It's about the same consistency as 0w-20 synthetic oil. I also mixed it with tungsten disulfide to enhance its properties. So far I guess it the thumps up. What ratio did you use to mix it with the "go - juice"? How did you blend it n? |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 11:05:49 AM EDT
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What ratio did you use to mix it with the "go - juice"? How did you blend it n? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I've been using this and while I don't really care to care about the crayon smell. It actually works quite well. I haven't fired one of my weapons for a couple months and there is zero gum up so far. It aeems to clean well or at least better than some of the other competitorss. My biggest issue is that it's not thick enough. It's about the same consistency as 0w-20 synthetic oil. I also mixed it with tungsten disulfide to enhance its properties. So far I guess it the thumps up. What ratio did you use to mix it with the "go - juice"? How did you blend it n? Tungsten Disulfide? I literally just mixed some until I got my desired result. You don't need to blend it in any complicated manner because it's soluble. I always liberally overcoat my upper receiver in 100 percent with TD since aluminum doesn't rust or get effected much by carbon. I coat just my Uppers in TD and then coat the moving parts with my lube, in this case Go Juice (mixed with TD). Be careful with TD though. That shit can be messy, but once it's in the metal, it doesn't really move around. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 8:49:04 PM EDT
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I've never heard of Tungsten Disulfide.
Interesting. I had to look it up. So the moly bullet shooting guys probably are using this. I wonder what effects it would have on a barrel coated inside with this stuff. Learn something new everday on the Arfcom. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 8:56:05 PM EDT
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I've never heard of Tungsten Disulfide. Interesting. I had to look it up. So the moly bullet shooting guys probably are using this. I wonder what effects it would have on a barrel coated inside with this stuff. Learn something new everday on the Arfcom. Tungsten Disulfide is the most lubricious material on earth afaik. Lower coefficient than moly, graphite, Teflon, and any oil you will ever put on your guns. Extremely high pressure rating and can withstand over 1200F heat. It is a much better anti seize than anything I've ever used. Coat your upper in it and I swear you will notice. TD literally embedded itself in metal and coatings such as anodizing, melanite, or Ionbond. However slick metals such as stainless types won't still for some reason. Titanium does however. Do some research. Honestly, you'd be surprised and some of the shit you'll find. I'm surprised no gun community has capitalized on it. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 2:45:15 AM EDT
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Tungsten Disulfide is the most lubricious material on earth afaik. Lower coefficient than moly, graphite, Teflon, and any oil you will ever put on your guns. Extremely high pressure rating and can withstand over 1200F heat. It is a much better anti seize than anything I've ever used. Coat your upper in it and I swear you will notice. TD literally embedded itself in metal and coatings such as anodizing, melanite, or Ionbond. However slick metals such as stainless types won't still for some reason. Titanium does however. Do some research. Honestly, you'd be surprised and some of the shit you'll find. I'm surprised no gun community has capitalized on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never heard of Tungsten Disulfide. Interesting. I had to look it up. So the moly bullet shooting guys probably are using this. I wonder what effects it would have on a barrel coated inside with this stuff. Learn something new everday on the Arfcom. Tungsten Disulfide is the most lubricious material on earth afaik. Lower coefficient than moly, graphite, Teflon, and any oil you will ever put on your guns. Extremely high pressure rating and can withstand over 1200F heat. It is a much better anti seize than anything I've ever used. Coat your upper in it and I swear you will notice. TD literally embedded itself in metal and coatings such as anodizing, melanite, or Ionbond. However slick metals such as stainless types won't still for some reason. Titanium does however. Do some research. Honestly, you'd be surprised and some of the shit you'll find. I'm surprised no gun community has capitalized on it. What method did you use to coat the inside of your upper? Spray on? I see you can get a one pound bag of dry powder WS2 for $54. I may need to try this out. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 10:34:45 AM EDT
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What method did you use to coat the inside of your upper? Spray on? I see you can get a one pound bag of dry powder WS2 for $54. I may need to try this out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never heard of Tungsten Disulfide. Interesting. I had to look it up. So the moly bullet shooting guys probably are using this. I wonder what effects it would have on a barrel coated inside with this stuff. Learn something new everday on the Arfcom. Tungsten Disulfide is the most lubricious material on earth afaik. Lower coefficient than moly, graphite, Teflon, and any oil you will ever put on your guns. Extremely high pressure rating and can withstand over 1200F heat. It is a much better anti seize than anything I've ever used. Coat your upper in it and I swear you will notice. TD literally embedded itself in metal and coatings such as anodizing, melanite, or Ionbond. However slick metals such as stainless types won't still for some reason. Titanium does however. Do some research. Honestly, you'd be surprised and some of the shit you'll find. I'm surprised no gun community has capitalized on it. What method did you use to coat the inside of your upper? Spray on? I see you can get a one pound bag of dry powder WS2 for $54. I may need to try this out. that's not even necessary. That's like overkill because a little goes a long way. That shit is like 0.3 microns thick. Pretty much anything less is nanoparticles. Make sure you're getting the lower micron ones. I just use bore whips or bore sticks. Even a small paint brush applicator works. Rubbing it in with nitrile gloves (don't ever use bare hands, not toxic but can get messy when applying) works good too. Try it out and let us know. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 2:29:38 PM EDT
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that's not even necessary. That's like overkill because a little goes a long way. That shit is like 0.3 microns thick. Pretty much anything less is nanoparticles. Make sure you're getting the lower micron ones. I just use bore whips or bore sticks. Even a small paint brush applicator works. Rubbing it in with nitrile gloves (don't ever use bare hands, not toxic but can get messy when applying) works good too. Try it out and let us know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never heard of Tungsten Disulfide. Interesting. I had to look it up. So the moly bullet shooting guys probably are using this. I wonder what effects it would have on a barrel coated inside with this stuff. Learn something new everday on the Arfcom. Tungsten Disulfide is the most lubricious material on earth afaik. Lower coefficient than moly, graphite, Teflon, and any oil you will ever put on your guns. Extremely high pressure rating and can withstand over 1200F heat. It is a much better anti seize than anything I've ever used. Coat your upper in it and I swear you will notice. TD literally embedded itself in metal and coatings such as anodizing, melanite, or Ionbond. However slick metals such as stainless types won't still for some reason. Titanium does however. Do some research. Honestly, you'd be surprised and some of the shit you'll find. I'm surprised no gun community has capitalized on it. What method did you use to coat the inside of your upper? Spray on? I see you can get a one pound bag of dry powder WS2 for $54. I may need to try this out. that's not even necessary. That's like overkill because a little goes a long way. That shit is like 0.3 microns thick. Pretty much anything less is nanoparticles. Make sure you're getting the lower micron ones. I just use bore whips or bore sticks. Even a small paint brush applicator works. Rubbing it in with nitrile gloves (don't ever use bare hands, not toxic but can get messy when applying) works good too. Try it out and let us know. Can y'all take this to PM? We're getting way of topic. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 3:21:45 AM EDT
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Can y'all take this to PM? We're getting way of topic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never heard of Tungsten Disulfide. Interesting. I had to look it up. So the moly bullet shooting guys probably are using this. I wonder what effects it would have on a barrel coated inside with this stuff. Learn something new everday on the Arfcom. Tungsten Disulfide is the most lubricious material on earth afaik. Lower coefficient than moly, graphite, Teflon, and any oil you will ever put on your guns. Extremely high pressure rating and can withstand over 1200F heat. It is a much better anti seize than anything I've ever used. Coat your upper in it and I swear you will notice. TD literally embedded itself in metal and coatings such as anodizing, melanite, or Ionbond. However slick metals such as stainless types won't still for some reason. Titanium does however. Do some research. Honestly, you'd be surprised and some of the shit you'll find. I'm surprised no gun community has capitalized on it. What method did you use to coat the inside of your upper? Spray on? I see you can get a one pound bag of dry powder WS2 for $54. I may need to try this out. that's not even necessary. That's like overkill because a little goes a long way. That shit is like 0.3 microns thick. Pretty much anything less is nanoparticles. Make sure you're getting the lower micron ones. I just use bore whips or bore sticks. Even a small paint brush applicator works. Rubbing it in with nitrile gloves (don't ever use bare hands, not toxic but can get messy when applying) works good too. Try it out and let us know. Can y'all take this to PM? We're getting way of topic. 
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Posted: 8/23/2016 6:17:59 PM EDT
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what happen?thought it was about go-juice. adhd
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Posted: 8/23/2016 8:15:19 PM EDT
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It is about ALG Go Juice all he is doing is talking about how he uses WS2 to thicken it a bit. No harm in that in my book. Still pertains to the conversation, and he is the OP and it is his thread. No harm no foul.
I really enjoy these threads, cause I experiment with lube as well. Mixing in WS2, hBN, and Teflon. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 3:18:48 PM EDT
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i was learning as well, didnt drift off target.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 10:32:00 PM EDT
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It is about ALG Go Juice all he is doing is talking about how he uses WS2 to thicken it a bit. No harm in that in my book. Still pertains to the conversation, and he is the OP and it is his thread. No harm no foul. I really enjoy these threads, cause I experiment with lube as well. Mixing in WS2, hBN, and Teflon. I guess it is his thread so my bad. Either way it stopped being about Go Juice and shifted to the lubrication properties of something else. Back on topic, I still haven't shot with it yet but I did take a couple of the guns out of the safe to check for gummyness and found none  By now FC and Rand would have been pretty tacky.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 12:07:39 AM EDT
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Do you guys know if Go Juice plays well with Synthetic Oils? Only thing putting me off on trying it, is the terms I read about it being, "runny" "thin" etc. on a couple of forums.
Any ideas on how I could thicken it some with some synthetic oil. ( if it plays good with it, because being Bio Based ) But one thing intrigues me, and keeps me looking into it more, is that it is a custom based man made algae for the purpose of a lubricant. |
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Posted: 9/6/2016 1:19:35 PM EDT
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Anything is better than FrogLube While this may be sarcasm, etc. it's far from the truth. Slightly off the OP's topic... There may be better firearm lubes (absolute, or for a given environment) it is far from the worst. While it may not be the best, it won't destroy your critical components like bolts, barrels, etc. An example: anything containing chlorinated esters. Eezox, Militec-1 or Weaponshield all contain this ingredient that has been scientifically proven to cause corrosion and stress cracks in bolts and when used in machining lubricants during barrel manufacturing to revolver barrels. Another product to avoid is chlorinated break cleaners that can have the same negative effect on metal. As for ALG Go-Juice, I have no personal experience with it, but it's a "bio-synthetic" made from GMO seed oil. I suggest continuing to use whatever else you've been using if it works until more research data is available. |
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Posted: 9/6/2016 1:41:57 PM EDT
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There may be better firearm lubes (absolute, or for a given environment) it is far from the worst. While it may not be the best, it won't destroy your critical components like bolts, barrels, etc. An example: anything containing chlorinated esters. Eezox, Militec-1 or Weaponshield all contain this ingredient that has been scientifically proven to cause corrosion and stress cracks in bolts and when used in machining lubricants during barrel manufacturing to revolver barrels. Another product to avoid is chlorinated break cleaners that can have the same negative effect on metal. As for ALG Go-Juice, I have no personal experience with it, but it's a "bio-synthetic" made from GMO seed oil. I suggest continuing to use whatever else you've been using if it works until more research data is available. anything containing chlorinated esters like Weaponshield Really? WeaponShield? I thought was a clean lube, meaning didn't contain chlorinated esters. Do you have a link I can go read to educate myself? (not being sarcastic) At the end of this thread it says that Weapon Shield has NO Chlorinated Esters. LINK But again- I ask Does anyone know if AL GO Juice play nice with Synthetic oil? |
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Posted: 9/6/2016 4:52:16 PM EDT
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anything containing chlorinated esters like Weaponshield Really? WeaponShield? I thought was a clean lube, meaning didn't contain chlorinated esters. Do you have a link I can go read to educate myself? (not being sarcastic) At the end of this thread it says that Weapon Shield has NO Chlorinated Esters. LINK But again- I ask Does anyone know if AL GO Juice play nice with Synthetic oil? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There may be better firearm lubes (absolute, or for a given environment) it is far from the worst. While it may not be the best, it won't destroy your critical components like bolts, barrels, etc. An example: anything containing chlorinated esters. Eezox, Militec-1 or Weaponshield all contain this ingredient that has been scientifically proven to cause corrosion and stress cracks in bolts and when used in machining lubricants during barrel manufacturing to revolver barrels. Another product to avoid is chlorinated break cleaners that can have the same negative effect on metal. As for ALG Go-Juice, I have no personal experience with it, but it's a "bio-synthetic" made from GMO seed oil. I suggest continuing to use whatever else you've been using if it works until more research data is available. anything containing chlorinated esters like Weaponshield Really? WeaponShield? I thought was a clean lube, meaning didn't contain chlorinated esters. Do you have a link I can go read to educate myself? (not being sarcastic) At the end of this thread it says that Weapon Shield has NO Chlorinated Esters. LINK But again- I ask Does anyone know if AL GO Juice play nice with Synthetic oil? yes. I have mixed 5w-20 Green Earth Technologies (biodegradable synth oil) with it for giggs. Seems to play nice and mix well. It actually causes the oil to thicken up a bit because it's the thinnest oil I've ever used. |
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Posted: 9/6/2016 8:59:19 PM EDT
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Sweet, I ordered some to try out.... I also have an order in for the new Amsoil Firearm Lube. Excited to get them in.
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Posted: 9/7/2016 1:08:22 AM EDT
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anything containing chlorinated esters like Weaponshield Really? WeaponShield? I thought was a clean lube, meaning didn't contain chlorinated esters. Do you have a link I can go read to educate myself? (not being sarcastic) At the end of this thread it says that Weapon Shield has NO Chlorinated Esters. LINK But again- I ask Does anyone know if AL GO Juice play nice with Synthetic oil? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There may be better firearm lubes (absolute, or for a given environment) it is far from the worst. While it may not be the best, it won't destroy your critical components like bolts, barrels, etc. An example: anything containing chlorinated esters. Eezox, Militec-1 or Weaponshield all contain this ingredient that has been scientifically proven to cause corrosion and stress cracks in bolts and when used in machining lubricants during barrel manufacturing to revolver barrels. Another product to avoid is chlorinated break cleaners that can have the same negative effect on metal. As for ALG Go-Juice, I have no personal experience with it, but it's a "bio-synthetic" made from GMO seed oil. I suggest continuing to use whatever else you've been using if it works until more research data is available. anything containing chlorinated esters like Weaponshield Really? WeaponShield? I thought was a clean lube, meaning didn't contain chlorinated esters. Do you have a link I can go read to educate myself? (not being sarcastic) At the end of this thread it says that Weapon Shield has NO Chlorinated Esters. LINK But again- I ask Does anyone know if AL GO Juice play nice with Synthetic oil? Weaponshield contains chlorinated molecules, but they are LONG chain molecules, not short or medium length, and are quite stable. Delve into chlorinated paraffins and olephins, and it's a fascinating study, but likely more in-depth than a simple "Yes, it does contain chlorination, no, it doesn't matter". ALG Go-Juice is compatible with every lubricant Geissele Automatics has tested it with, although they have not tested it with every lubricant imaginable for obvious reasons of time/hassle. |
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Posted: 9/9/2016 5:23:52 PM EDT
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ok - I got my 2 bottles of Go-Juice in, and yesterday I received my Amsoil Firearm Lubricant. I thought it was thin, well... Go-Juice makes it look thick. O_O
LINK AMSOIL FIREARM I have yet to apply on my bolts on a side by side comparison, but behold these two lubes aren't something, I'd recommend, that you lube your rifle or pistols with and then store in a safe. I don't think it's physically possible for these lubricants to stay put. Now, as for bench rest shooting and adding a couple drops of lube, then I think you'll be set. So I def feel the need to thicken it up a bit. I've been thinking about adding some TufOil Additive It's alot thicker than STP and Prolong. I just don't know if it will mix well or separate, so I will mix some up in my clear needle tip bottles and see what happens. Anyways, just wanted to share. 
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Posted: 9/9/2016 9:38:40 PM EDT
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I've had no need to thicken go juice. I apply it very lightly and have no migration or other issues. It works great.
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Posted: 9/18/2016 9:24:46 PM EDT
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Tried the Go-Juice and it's worked really well in my rifles. Haven't had to relube my AR in several range sessions so we'll see how that works.
But what cleaner are you guys using prior to Go-Juice? Used to use Fireclean for everything and now I need a dedicated cleaner. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 8:25:55 AM EDT
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Tried the Go-Juice and it's worked really well in my rifles. Haven't had to relube my AR in several range sessions so we'll see how that works. But what cleaner are you guys using prior to Go-Juice? Used to use Fireclean for everything and now I need a dedicated cleaner. Alcohol or gun-scrubber will remove the previous product from your rifle. Then just apply the ALG Go Juice. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:19:48 AM EDT
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It's good stuff that I wouldn't hesitate to buy, but I still prefer my Slip EWL.
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Posted: 9/21/2016 11:31:20 AM EDT
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It's good stuff that I wouldn't hesitate to buy, but I still prefer my Slip EWL. What about slip ewl performance have you found superior? |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 2:02:39 PM EDT
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Hmm Amsoil makes damn good automotive oils...might have to check that out, didn't know they made any firearm specific.
These bio lubes all seem like crappie to me when it comes to protecting from corrosion and not degrading into some goo. Maybe ALG came up with something that finally works compared to the others. But until time has tested it, no thanks. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 2:53:14 PM EDT
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It's good stuff that I wouldn't hesitate to buy, but I still prefer my Slip EWL. What about slip ewl performance have you found superior? It's purely unscientific opinion, but it feels like it adheres/bonds better. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 5:07:31 PM EDT
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Hmm Amsoil makes damn good automotive oils...might have to check that out, didn't know they made any firearm specific. These bio lubes all seem like crappie to me when it comes to protecting from corrosion and not degrading into some goo. Maybe ALG came up with something that finally works compared to the others. But until time has tested it, no thanks. The corrosion testing I have seen places the ALG Go-Juice product well ahead of SLIP 2000 EWL. Time will tell about degrading into goo, but Bill Geissele did specifically address that in a statement at SHOT and has been testing it for over 2 years. The product that I have had for many months (not quite half a year) has yet to become the least bit sticky. It has not been out long enough to truly know, but so far, it has exceeded my expectations. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 2:30:37 PM EDT
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The corrosion testing I have seen places the ALG Go-Juice product well ahead of SLIP 2000 EWL. Time will tell about degrading into goo, but Bill Geissele did specifically address that in a statement at SHOT and has been testing it for over 2 years. The product that I have had for many months (not quite half a year) has yet to become the least bit sticky. It has not been out long enough to truly know, but so far, it has exceeded my expectations. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hmm Amsoil makes damn good automotive oils...might have to check that out, didn't know they made any firearm specific. These bio lubes all seem like crappie to me when it comes to protecting from corrosion and not degrading into some goo. Maybe ALG came up with something that finally works compared to the others. But until time has tested it, no thanks. The corrosion testing I have seen places the ALG Go-Juice product well ahead of SLIP 2000 EWL. Time will tell about degrading into goo, but Bill Geissele did specifically address that in a statement at SHOT and has been testing it for over 2 years. The product that I have had for many months (not quite half a year) has yet to become the least bit sticky. It has not been out long enough to truly know, but so far, it has exceeded my expectations. Oh I hope it is awesome stuff. Thought about putting some on a piece of mild steel and just sitting it in the weather to see how it takes the abuse? |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:39:01 PM EDT
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Oh I hope it is awesome stuff. Thought about putting some on a piece of mild steel and just sitting it in the weather to see how it takes the abuse? Do it. I bet you are impressed. |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 8:09:10 AM EDT
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update, been using go-juice for 3 weeks shooting my beretta 92 and hi-point 45, worked great, and cleaned up easy.
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Posted: 9/23/2016 1:10:47 PM EDT
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update, been using go-juice for 3 weeks shooting my beretta 92 and hi-point 45, worked great, and cleaned up easy. I've had it on my rifles since I started this thread. Completely degreased and then applied go juice. So far it hasn't "hardened" like other bio based products. The place I always noticed the hardening was the safety area and bolt catch. I would have this green residue. It wasn't even sticky. It was like a crayon type of hard. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 3:50:02 PM EDT
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While this may be sarcasm, etc. it's far from the truth. Slightly off the OP's topic... There may be better firearm lubes (absolute, or for a given environment) it is far from the worst. While it may not be the best, it won't destroy your critical components like bolts, barrels, etc. An example: anything containing chlorinated esters. Eezox, Militec-1 or Weaponshield all contain this ingredient that has been scientifically proven to cause corrosion and stress cracks in bolts and when used in machining lubricants during barrel manufacturing to revolver barrels. Another product to avoid is chlorinated break cleaners that can have the same negative effect on metal. As for ALG Go-Juice, I have no personal experience with it, but it's a "bio-synthetic" made from GMO seed oil. I suggest continuing to use whatever else you've been using if it works until more research data is available. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anything is better than FrogLube While this may be sarcasm, etc. it's far from the truth. Slightly off the OP's topic... There may be better firearm lubes (absolute, or for a given environment) it is far from the worst. While it may not be the best, it won't destroy your critical components like bolts, barrels, etc. An example: anything containing chlorinated esters. Eezox, Militec-1 or Weaponshield all contain this ingredient that has been scientifically proven to cause corrosion and stress cracks in bolts and when used in machining lubricants during barrel manufacturing to revolver barrels. Another product to avoid is chlorinated break cleaners that can have the same negative effect on metal. As for ALG Go-Juice, I have no personal experience with it, but it's a "bio-synthetic" made from GMO seed oil. I suggest continuing to use whatever else you've been using if it works until more research data is available. Got backing data? |
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