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Posted: 10/30/2015 9:57:45 AM EDT
I made the plunge into Frog Lube world and picked up some of their clp. When I look at their information, it seems like they are strongly advocating using just their products for clp AND cleaning and that using other cleaning products will interfere with the clp application reaching maximum effectiveness.
I currently am a big fan of break free foaming bore cleaner because I feel that it does a great job of saturating the entire barrel/chamber. I don't feel like they have an equivalent product that does this. My question is, have any of you guys seen any difference in running exclusively FrogLube clp and cleaning products vs running FrogCLP and OTHER cleaning products? I'm curious if the whole cleaning system makes a difference or if it's just a way to rake in more frog profits. 
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Posted: 10/30/2015 10:15:32 AM EDT
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I made the plunge into Frog Lube world and picked up some of their clp. When I look at their information, it seems like they are strongly advocating using just their products for clp AND cleaning and that using other cleaning products will interfere with the clp application reaching maximum effectiveness. I currently am a big fan of break free foaming bore cleaner because I feel that it does a great job of saturating the entire barrel/chamber. I don't feel like they have an equivalent product that does this. My question is, have any of you guys seen any difference in running exclusively FrogLube clp and cleaning products vs running FrogCLP and OTHER cleaning products? I'm curious if the whole cleaning system makes a difference or if it's just a way to rake in more frog profits. I bought the de-greaser when it first came out. I actually works really really well. It also went rancid in a few weeks/month or so, and smelled like laundry left in the washer wet for a few days. I ultimately threw it out because of this. I did not notice any difference in how the Froglube performed as a CLP/Paste, so long as I removed ALL traces of other products. It did, still have a massive shift in color, as well as a very significant thickening when I applied it thick. When I applied it thin, my weapon rusted inside a day or two. I discontinued it and went back to MPRO 7 LPX at that point in time. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 10:17:48 AM EDT
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I threw my froglube away after multiple ARs and a handgun became non-functional due to froglube turning adhesive like after 4 months of non-use.
The AR could not even be cycled by hand. YMMV |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 10:25:54 AM EDT
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Quote History I did not notice any difference in how the Froglube performed as a CLP/Paste, so long as I removed ALL traces of other products.
Do you mean that you didn't see a difference between the 2 clp products? Or did you mean that neither of them changed effectiveness when you switched back to the non frog products? |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 10:32:34 AM EDT
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I threw my froglube away after multiple ARs and a handgun became non-functional due to froglube turning adhesive like after 4 months of non-use. The AR could not even be cycled by hand. YMMV Well Damn.  did you follow up with them about it? If so, how did they explain that?!
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Posted: 10/30/2015 10:35:26 AM EDT
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Go by some slip 2000 or motor oil
If your lube has instructions, that should tell you all you need to know |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 10:46:15 AM EDT
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Go by some slip 2000 or motor oil If your lube has instructions, that should tell you all you need to know Well I mean everything has instructions nowadays....including every other products I've used....breakfree, mpro7, ewl, gunslick....I've heard very positive things about it and this is the first I've heard of any bad stuff. If it does offer an enhancement over the status quo, isn't that worth looking into? |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 8:40:36 PM EDT
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I used froglube for a year. You cannot use it with anything containing petrol as it will eat it up.
As far as my review I found froglube makes everything slick feeling and for all intent seems to live up. However issues were not apparent at first. I found that froglube doesn't seem to stay on the gun and burns up quicker than clp. Take for example you clean your gun a week before and you go to the range a week later. The bolt feels bone dry and I am able to only shoot like 100 rounds before I notice it short stroke, bolt lock ack failure, etc. Now if I apply fresh coating of froglube like the night before the range it works flawlessly. I think froglube is meant for frequent cleaning. Doesn't seem like it works if it sits even for a short time. Also when you shoot the minty smells go and it smells horrible. That's a minor issue though compared to above. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 8:44:35 PM EDT
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Well I mean everything has instructions nowadays....including every other products I've used....breakfree, mpro7, ewl, gunslick....I've heard very positive things about it and this is the first I've heard of any bad stuff. If it does offer an enhancement over the status quo, isn't that worth looking into? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go by some slip 2000 or motor oil If your lube has instructions, that should tell you all you need to know Well I mean everything has instructions nowadays....including every other products I've used....breakfree, mpro7, ewl, gunslick....I've heard very positive things about it and this is the first I've heard of any bad stuff. If it does offer an enhancement over the status quo, isn't that worth looking into? It molds. I'm not sure how you feel about that, but I would say that's a negative for me. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 9:27:13 PM EDT
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I used froglube for a year. You cannot use it with anything containing petrol as it will eat it up. As far as my review I found froglube makes everything slick feeling and for all intent seems to live up. However issues were not apparent at first. I found that froglube doesn't seem to stay on the gun and burns up quicker than clp. Take for example you clean your gun a week before and you go to the range a week later. The bolt feels bone dry and I am able to only shoot like 100 rounds before I notice it short stroke, bolt lock ack failure, etc. Now if I apply fresh coating of froglube like the night before the range it works flawlessly. I think froglube is meant for frequent cleaning. Doesn't seem like it works if it sits even for a short time. Also when you shoot the minty smells go and it smells horrible. That's a minor issue though compared to above. Did you use it the same way as you did the CLP? From my research it seems like it's supposed to appear as it's not there. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 9:28:41 PM EDT
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It molds. I'm not sure how you feel about that, but I would say that's a negative for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go by some slip 2000 or motor oil If your lube has instructions, that should tell you all you need to know Well I mean everything has instructions nowadays....including every other products I've used....breakfree, mpro7, ewl, gunslick....I've heard very positive things about it and this is the first I've heard of any bad stuff. If it does offer an enhancement over the status quo, isn't that worth looking into? It molds. I'm not sure how you feel about that, but I would say that's a negative for me. I heard about an issue with "legacy" formulations that they since changed to add an anti mold agent-has there been mold in newer stuff? I want so bad for this stuff to be legit but something seems weird about it |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 10:08:22 PM EDT
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Did you use it the same way as you did the CLP? From my research it seems like it's supposed to appear as it's not there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used froglube for a year. You cannot use it with anything containing petrol as it will eat it up. As far as my review I found froglube makes everything slick feeling and for all intent seems to live up. However issues were not apparent at first. I found that froglube doesn't seem to stay on the gun and burns up quicker than clp. Take for example you clean your gun a week before and you go to the range a week later. The bolt feels bone dry and I am able to only shoot like 100 rounds before I notice it short stroke, bolt lock ack failure, etc. Now if I apply fresh coating of froglube like the night before the range it works flawlessly. I think froglube is meant for frequent cleaning. Doesn't seem like it works if it sits even for a short time. Also when you shoot the minty smells go and it smells horrible. That's a minor issue though compared to above. Did you use it the same way as you did the CLP? From my research it seems like it's supposed to appear as it's not there. I used a hairdryer to heat the parts then applied froglube as per instructions. If I do it a night before I shoot it runs flawlessly the next day. Anytime it sits for more than a few days, it doesn't function as well as a fresh application. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 11:54:57 PM EDT
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I heard about an issue with "legacy" formulations that they since changed to add an anti mold agent-has there been mold in newer stuff? I want so bad for this stuff to be legit but something seems weird about it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go by some slip 2000 or motor oil If your lube has instructions, that should tell you all you need to know Well I mean everything has instructions nowadays....including every other products I've used....breakfree, mpro7, ewl, gunslick....I've heard very positive things about it and this is the first I've heard of any bad stuff. If it does offer an enhancement over the status quo, isn't that worth looking into? It molds. I'm not sure how you feel about that, but I would say that's a negative for me. I heard about an issue with "legacy" formulations that they since changed to add an anti mold agent-has there been mold in newer stuff? I want so bad for this stuff to be legit but something seems weird about it Can you relube in the middle of things, or do you have to do the voodoo again? |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:34:45 PM EDT
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Well Damn. did you follow up with them about it? If so, how did they explain that?!Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I threw my froglube away after multiple ARs and a handgun became non-functional due to froglube turning adhesive like after 4 months of non-use. The AR could not even be cycled by hand. YMMV Well Damn. did you follow up with them about it? If so, how did they explain that?!No. I don't care or have time for that. I just stopped using it and went back to mobile 1. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:39:44 PM EDT
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I used a hairdryer to heat the parts then applied froglube as per instructions. If I do it a night before I shoot it runs flawlessly the next day. Anytime it sits for more than a few days, it doesn't function as well as a fresh application. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used froglube for a year. You cannot use it with anything containing petrol as it will eat it up. As far as my review I found froglube makes everything slick feeling and for all intent seems to live up. However issues were not apparent at first. I found that froglube doesn't seem to stay on the gun and burns up quicker than clp. Take for example you clean your gun a week before and you go to the range a week later. The bolt feels bone dry and I am able to only shoot like 100 rounds before I notice it short stroke, bolt lock ack failure, etc. Now if I apply fresh coating of froglube like the night before the range it works flawlessly. I think froglube is meant for frequent cleaning. Doesn't seem like it works if it sits even for a short time. Also when you shoot the minty smells go and it smells horrible. That's a minor issue though compared to above. Did you use it the same way as you did the CLP? From my research it seems like it's supposed to appear as it's not there. I used a hairdryer to heat the parts then applied froglube as per instructions. If I do it a night before I shoot it runs flawlessly the next day. Anytime it sits for more than a few days, it doesn't function as well as a fresh application. If you wait several months and take a cotton patch to the BCG, the little cotton fibers will stick to it because it like it is adhesive. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 6:28:30 PM EDT
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Sounds like it's polymerizing and turning into a wax or varnish.
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:24:51 PM EDT
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Well thanks for all the info guys. Sadly I already have some on the way-I probably will try one one or two of my guns...one long term and one more frequently. I will keep it off of my defensive guns however-thanks for the heads up!
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:29:46 PM EDT
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I use it for all my guns, dint have the experience like yours. I just shot a rifle I've had in long term storage, I was really happy with the results
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Posted: 11/1/2015 7:29:43 PM EDT
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Well thanks for all the info guys. Sadly I already have some on the way-I probably will try one one or two of my guns...one long term and one more frequently. I will keep it off of my defensive guns however-thanks for the heads up! Yeah I'm guessing maybe you'll have better luck with it. Afterall with so many people buying it, it has to work somehow, right? Overall good luck with it and do report back on your success or failure. I remember for me I was ecstatic at first with the results but as I said later decided against it after some problems. Hopefully you won't run into those issues. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 7:51:59 PM EDT
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I would like to know why the difference in performance of froglube.
I wonder if it has to do with a wet or dry climate. A small sampling seems to point to dry climate people not having problems. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 8:26:29 PM EDT
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I used a hairdryer to heat the parts then applied froglube as per instructions. If I do it a night before I shoot it runs flawlessly the next day. Anytime it sits for more than a few days, it doesn't function as well as a fresh application. You own a hair dryer? And you use it on your guns? Holy crap. That could be 2 reasons to have your man card revoked! M |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:02:14 AM EDT
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Last night I stripped my Glock 26 down, used the degreaser per their instructions and used a hair dryer to apply the frog paste. I can see how this stuff could cause issues like were mentioned earlier. The paste, once dried from the heat will turn into a wax-like consistency-if this made it's way to the firing pin I could see this causing an issue. I will update as I go.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:16:49 PM EDT
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You own a hair dryer? And you use it on your guns? Holy crap. That could be 2 reasons to have your man card revoked! M Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used a hairdryer to heat the parts then applied froglube as per instructions. If I do it a night before I shoot it runs flawlessly the next day. Anytime it sits for more than a few days, it doesn't function as well as a fresh application. You own a hair dryer? And you use it on your guns? Holy crap. That could be 2 reasons to have your man card revoked! M I wrote a hairdryer, not necessarily mine. 
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Posted: 11/4/2015 10:12:50 PM EDT
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After reading about issues with Froglube, I now just use it on my knife blades, cause cold and non-use, ain't gonna bother them.
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Posted: 11/17/2015 6:51:48 PM EDT
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Using Frog Lube for about a year now and no issues. Have had a few times where I haven't cleaned between shooting days that were weeks apart and still no issues in any of my weapons, both rifles and handguns.
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Posted: 11/19/2015 5:39:10 PM EDT
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I've been using frog lube for over a year in one of my rifles. Followed the instructions and have zero issues. My rifle is cleaned about every 500-700 rounds or so and I shoot about 120-200 through it almost every weekend so it doesn't sit for long. As for basic cleaning I use the wet lube, scrub everything down with a nylon brush or patch then wipe it clean. I lube it with a thin layer of paste. No need to heat it up for every application. Wipe off the excess and my gun goes bang every time. There are a lot of haters of frog lube but I am not one of them. To each his own.
I've just finished another build and will be using frog lube on it as well. If I have any problems I'll report back. |
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Posted: 11/19/2015 7:58:27 PM EDT
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Honest question. What do all these new lubes claim to offer over your run of the mill, PROVEN lubes such as CLP and ordinary petroleum gun oils?. Why the push for Bio-degradable oils? I'll take reliable over environmentally friendly any day. Especially when you absolutely need your firearm to function no matter what. Be a hell of a thing to get shot because of your gun oil didn't work.
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Posted: 11/24/2015 2:48:29 AM EDT
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I threw my froglube away after multiple ARs and a handgun became non-functional due to froglube turning adhesive like after 4 months of non-use. The AR could not even be cycled by hand. YMMV I noticed my 1911 was pretty sluggish after sitting in the safe for a few months with froglube.... only because of over-application. You learn pretty quickly, especially if you live in a cold climate not to use too much. |
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Posted: 11/24/2015 2:55:24 AM EDT
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I made the plunge into Frog Lube world and picked up some of their clp. When I look at their information, it seems like they are strongly advocating using just their products for clp AND cleaning and that using other cleaning products will interfere with the clp application reaching maximum effectiveness. I currently am a big fan of break free foaming bore cleaner because I feel that it does a great job of saturating the entire barrel/chamber. I don't feel like they have an equivalent product that does this. My question is, have any of you guys seen any difference in running exclusively FrogLube clp and cleaning products vs running FrogCLP and OTHER cleaning products? I'm curious if the whole cleaning system makes a difference or if it's just a way to rake in more frog profits. I use a foaming bore cleaner along with froglube in my rifles. I foam the barrels as directed by the manufacturer then a patch of the liquid FL CLP, followed by a dry patches until dry. |
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Posted: 11/24/2015 12:32:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honest question. What do all these new lubes claim to offer over your run of the mill, PROVEN lubes such as CLP and ordinary petroleum gun oils?. Why the push for Bio-degradable oils? I'll take reliable over environmentally friendly any day. Especially when you absolutely need your firearm to function no matter what. Be a hell of a thing to get shot because of your gun oil didn't work. Slip 2000 EWL does a really good job of getting into all the moving parts. Once there, it bonds with the surface and prevents carbon from sticking to the insides. It also stays wet and doesn't evaporate very easily. You should try it sometime. Go buy a little bottle of EWL and use it just like CLP. Once you've cleaned your gun with it, go out and shoot it again. Then clean it again. Then shoot it again. You'll notice each time that the gun gets easier and easier to clean. By the third cycle, you should simply be able to wipe the carbon off the bolt with a rag. But you'll need to wipe it down with EWL again once you do that. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:28:59 PM EDT
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I noticed my 1911 was pretty sluggish after sitting in the safe for a few months with froglube.... only because of over-application. You learn pretty quickly, especially if you live in a cold climate not to use too much. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I threw my froglube away after multiple ARs and a handgun became non-functional due to froglube turning adhesive like after 4 months of non-use. The AR could not even be cycled by hand. YMMV I noticed my 1911 was pretty sluggish after sitting in the safe for a few months with froglube.... only because of over-application. You learn pretty quickly, especially if you live in a cold climate not to use too much. I will stick with a lube that I don't have to be concerned with putting too much on. My firearms are tools meant for reliable use. So I will use a reliable lube too. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 1:27:52 AM EDT
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I used a hairdryer to heat the parts then applied froglube as per instructions. If I do it a night before I shoot it runs flawlessly the next day. Anytime it sits for more than a few days, it doesn't function as well as a fresh application. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used froglube for a year. You cannot use it with anything containing petrol as it will eat it up. As far as my review I found froglube makes everything slick feeling and for all intent seems to live up. However issues were not apparent at first. I found that froglube doesn't seem to stay on the gun and burns up quicker than clp. Take for example you clean your gun a week before and you go to the range a week later. The bolt feels bone dry and I am able to only shoot like 100 rounds before I notice it short stroke, bolt lock ack failure, etc. Now if I apply fresh coating of froglube like the night before the range it works flawlessly. I think froglube is meant for frequent cleaning. Doesn't seem like it works if it sits even for a short time. Also when you shoot the minty smells go and it smells horrible. That's a minor issue though compared to above. Did you use it the same way as you did the CLP? From my research it seems like it's supposed to appear as it's not there. I used a hairdryer to heat the parts then applied froglube as per instructions. If I do it a night before I shoot it runs flawlessly the next day. Anytime it sits for more than a few days, it doesn't function as well as a fresh application. that's insane if you ask me, a hairdryer before application? Go buy Mobil 1 and you are set for life |
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