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Posted: 2/23/2015 12:15:13 PM EDT
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Wetter is better. Some lubes stay put longer than others too. CLP<Slip 2000<Fireclean in my experience.
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Posted: 2/23/2015 12:16:44 PM EDT
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You have a NiB coated carrier. While one doesn't need to run the gun sopping wet, that coated carrier needs next to no lube, I'm sure.
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Posted: 2/23/2015 12:18:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2015 12:45:32 PM EDT
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Just to show. These are the four points that the bolt rides inside the receiver.
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Posted: 2/23/2015 12:50:11 PM EDT
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Mine is practically dripping with oil, and works fine. I'd say get as wet as you can if it doesn't cause problems.
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Posted: 2/23/2015 12:54:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine is practically dripping with oil, and works fine. I'd say get as wet as you can if it doesn't cause problems. Maybe my shit just likes to run dry? |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 1:03:47 PM EDT
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AR's generally like to run wet. However, wet is not always better especially in a very dusty dry environment. The amount and type of lubricant generally depends on temperature, dust, and humidity/water. Of coarse there are several lubricants that work well in many different environments. There's numerous thread in here on the best lube. I prefer Slip 2000 EWL.
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Posted: 2/23/2015 1:23:08 PM EDT
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Wet is and has been the general rule with the AR since the 70's. But with modern lubricants and coatings there is no general rule that is going to apply to every rifle out there. You simply have to decide what works for you and your needs and nobody can do this except for you. As for me, ever since I switched everything over to Mil-Comm products I have been able to cut back on the amount of lubricant used, oil or grease, don't matter. This is the very best lubricant that I have used, and I have used most of them at one point or another. YMMV???
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Posted: 2/23/2015 2:25:12 PM EDT
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Better to over-lube than under-lube. You'll learn to like the smell of certain oils when they burn.
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Posted: 2/23/2015 4:11:53 PM EDT
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But if you look at the pic I posted....There is only a small amount of contact made inside the receiver. As far as the bolt itself I can see where a little bit of lube might be needed, and of course the bolt face may need a light coating.
When you guys say you run it wet, what exactly are you lubing? Spraying lube right through those holes in the BC to get the bolt itself wet? |
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Posted: 2/23/2015 5:29:01 PM EDT
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But if you look at the pic I posted....There is only a small amount of contact made inside the receiver. As far as the bolt itself I can see where a little bit of lube might be needed, and of course the bolt face may need a light coating. When you guys say you run it wet, what exactly are you lubing? Spraying lube right through those holes in the BC to get the bolt itself wet? Mainly the bolt, cam pin, and carrier contact points. After the first few shots, most of the excess lube will be blown away anyway. |
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Posted: 2/24/2015 10:00:30 AM EDT
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Parkerized steel needs a coating of lubricant.
I primarily use grease on the metal to metal contact areas. |
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Posted: 2/24/2015 10:56:27 AM EDT
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I use 6 drops of oil on the carrier spread by finger. 3 drops on the bolt. 2 drops onto the cam pin while BCG is assembled.
I used to use grease, but fireclean made me a oil convert. |
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Posted: 2/24/2015 12:32:52 PM EDT
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I'm using Mobile 1 engine oil combined with a Nickel boron BCG. Just wet a Q-tip and oil all the friction points (forgot to mention cam pin in earlier post)
This system has worked for me up to 300 rounds and I usually clean the rifle again. Ive heard good things about this Slip 2000.... any advantages over what I'm currently using? |
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Posted: 2/26/2015 4:44:54 PM EDT
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I'm using Mobile 1 engine oil combined with a Nickel boron BCG. Just wet a Q-tip and oil all the friction points (forgot to mention cam pin in earlier post) This system has worked for me up to 300 rounds and I usually clean the rifle again. Ive heard good things about this Slip 2000.... any advantages over what I'm currently using? Besides the non-toxic aspect, I say no. I use synthetic motor oil ( Redline 5w-20 ) and I run the bolt pretty wet and put a healthy amount of oil on the BCG rails. The rest of my ARs are pretty dry. I sometimes think people interpret "run it wet" to mean oil slinging off with every round 
The above has worked for me with up to 600 rounds/session/gun with no issues or need to relube. |
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Posted: 2/26/2015 9:19:49 PM EDT
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I run mine wet always have. Even when I was in the sandbox... If I started having problems,I'd pull my BCG,wipe it down wipe down the inside of the receiver,spray the BCG down slam it all back together and get back into the fight... Rarely had a problem though.
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Posted: 2/26/2015 9:41:01 PM EDT
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The biggest fallacy around these parts is that the AK will run if you bury it in the dirt for 87 years and the AR can only run if you baby it. If you use this gun for the punching of paper versus the preservation of life, then only lube it up when it has a failure if that is what you are in to. Who cares. If you use either gun for protection of life, then maintenance is important. Maybe, MAYBE, the AK will be more forgiving to improper maintenance. I would never bet my life on this though, especially given how easy it is to clean and lubricate properly. Hell, skip the clean part and only lubricate. It takes 30 seconds for either gun. Keep it wet enough, whether it is an AK or an AR. I can never understand how peoples' time is so valuable that 15 mins worth of maintenance every 4 months is like pulling teeth but posting on ARFCOM for 5 min/day about 'proper' cleaning is acceptable... |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 4:54:30 AM EDT
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My duty weapon is lightly lubricated. But, I am only issued 60 rounds for it so if I need to use it, a light coat of oil is plenty for 60 rounds.
When I'm training with the rifle, I lube it well. Reason being, I might be shooting hundreds of rounds through it and I want it to keep running. Also, shooting it wet makes it easier to clean later. FWIW: I used to use Militec and liked it. Was given some free Slip EWL and started using it when I ran out of Militec. It works fine too. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 5:04:34 AM EDT
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Mobil 1.....shits dripping in it
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Posted: 2/27/2015 11:11:43 PM EDT
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Throw the Mobile 1 at it until everything is nice and wet.
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Posted: 3/9/2015 9:29:43 PM EDT
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Throw the Mobile 1 at it until everything is nice and wet. Straight Mobil 1 5w30 motor oil? |
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Posted: 3/9/2015 10:12:44 PM EDT
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Run it wet or it will fail, guaranteed.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 10:22:20 PM EDT
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Straight Mobil 1 5w30 motor oil? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Throw the Mobile 1 at it until everything is nice and wet. Straight Mobil 1 5w30 motor oil? I use Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 0w40. Tomac |
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Posted: 3/14/2015 2:57:24 AM EDT
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I am DEFINITELY not a "wet" guy. I use Mobile 1 applied by finger tip to the four bcg rails, bolt gas rings, bolt ridge, cam pin, bolt lugs, and that's it. NO more. Dripping is waste and a dirt trap. I honestly think people that drench their whole bcg are fudds who have no idea where the friction areas are, but to each their own (more doesn't hurt, but it doesn't help either. It's just a mess). YMMV
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Posted: 3/14/2015 3:07:06 AM EDT
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The biggest fallacy around these parts is that the AK will run if you bury it in the dirt for 87 years and the AR can only run if you baby it. ... My Romanian (run of the mill) AK is well over 1500 rounds without cleaning OR lubrication. Do not compare an AK to an AR as there is no comparison for maintenance. An AK runs cool (receiver parts) and clean (piston system) while an AR ... no. It is not a fallacy. I love my AR's, but sorry they DO require more maintenance. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="zqL0dtIeTT8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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Posted: 3/14/2015 10:10:46 AM EDT
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I run my bcg somewhere in the middle. On select areas(rails, bolt and cam pin) a run a few drops on other areas I run very little if any. Mpro has been working well
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Posted: 3/14/2015 10:11:22 AM EDT
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double post
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Posted: 3/15/2015 11:33:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I am DEFINITELY not a "wet" guy. I use Mobile 1 applied by finger tip to the four bcg rails, bolt gas rings, bolt ridge, cam pin, bolt lugs, and that's it. NO more. Dripping is waste and a dirt trap. I honestly think people that drench their whole bcg are fudds who have no idea where the friction areas are, but to each their own (more doesn't hurt, but it doesn't help either. It's just a mess). YMMV Been running AR's since 85, always used amsoil or mobile1 5-30ish, It is obvious where the wear points are if you look at your bolt and upper...that said...I do exactly as said above in the Quote. Visibly wet but not dripping. At the range I give the fire breathing dragons a quick clean and re-lube after 3 or 400 rounds. After the shooting seccision I strip and soak assembled BCG in a tub of Mobile1 for some time (10-15 min) and for the most part wipe clean. This is what works best for me...your mileage may very. Oh...my older brother likes his wet and sloppy with Rem Oil and that has work for him. But then again...I'm right he's wrong......
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Posted: 3/23/2015 6:24:49 PM EDT
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But if you look at the pic I posted....There is only a small amount of contact made inside the receiver. As far as the bolt itself I can see where a little bit of lube might be needed, and of course the bolt face may need a light coating. When you guys say you run it wet, what exactly are you lubing? Spraying lube right through those holes in the BC to get the bolt itself wet? Quote HistoryQuoted:
But if you look at the pic I posted....There is only a small amount of contact made inside the receiver. As far as the bolt itself I can see where a little bit of lube might be needed, and of course the bolt face may need a light coating. When you guys say you run it wet, what exactly are you lubing? Spraying lube right through those holes in the BC to get the bolt itself wet? bigbore's recommended lube points One drop on the top of the charging handle One drop on the gas rings One drop on the body of the bolt One drop on the cam pin One drop on the firing pin Two drops on the bottom rail of the carrier Two drops on the top of the carrier Quoted:
... That's it. Thats all I ever use, whether I'm plinking at the range for a few minutes, or an all day carbine class. 99% of my shooting any more is suppressed, and that is still all the lube I have ever needed. I dont lube in the receiver, I dont lube my buffer/spring. |
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