 Xeusao 
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Posted: 7/26/2012 4:47:52 PM
[Last Edit: 7/26/2012 4:56:43 PM by Xeusao]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Hunted all my young life, cleaned my guns, but haven't even done that in about 25 years. So I got a new psa ar 15. Had cosmoline all over it. Guy at the store said "hey, use this copper solvent, it's great." Cool. Ran a bore brush with some on it, Disassembled and put the BCG in it to soak Wiped down the BCG Sent patches through constantly for like 30-40 mins - coming out dark with black cosmoline. Ran a wet bore brush through again Ran some more patches, they we're coming out a little cleaner, but not much Said "screw it" sent down a pad with a little lube Was getting late.... left it for the night. Got on here next morning - reading copper solvent staying on there more than 10 mins is a bad idea. Panic'd a bit... Immediately went back and sent down bore brush with Hoppes 9 Wet and sent down patches with Hoppes 9 Sent down bore again with Hoppes 9 Sent down a bunch of dry patches that actually started to come out relatively clean Sent down a pad with lube. I haven't even fired the thing yet, and I'm hoping the copper solvent didn't screw the barrel. Any thoughts? |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 5:57:03 PM
Apparently it's a really dumb question.
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kaos
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Posted: 7/26/2012 7:24:46 PM
[Last Edit: 7/26/2012 7:26:37 PM by kaos]
Welcome to the forums.
There are no dumb questions. Stick around GD, and you'll meet some dumb people.  Shoot it, I'm sure it's not ruined. |
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ariesfromhell
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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:22:18 PM
itll be fine IMHO.
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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:39:38 PM
I read that that you wiped it out first then ran a patch of oil ("lube"?) through it for the night - so what is the concern. The 30-40 minute period? Sounds like it wasn't even in contact with the bore yet if you were still pulling cosmoline.
Also it really depends on what you used. Mpro can be left in the barrel. Also, ammonia based solvents (worse case) will not really damage chrome supposedly - they just remove all the oil, attracting surface moisture, so you would see orange rust on the patch if there was any concern. Plus you oiled it. Personally I'd quit screwing around with stuff the guy at the counter is pushing and get some Gunzilla (for cleaning IMO, not lube) and some Weapon Shield (for lube, not cleaning IMO). Plus Fluid Film if you have blued guns or storage needs. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:11:17 PM
I've never had a PSA product with cosmoline all over it.
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Norinco982lover
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:14:23 PM
Seriously don't worry about it.
I run nothing but CLP on my recreational guns because I'm too lazy to buy anything else and it works perfectly fine. Get out there and shoot the gun a little bit. Run a boresnake through there every once in awhile. Don't worry about it just have some fun. |
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Gregory_K
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Posted: 7/27/2012 7:07:54 AM
What was the copper remover?
If you dry patched then ran oil down the bore your fine. |
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Posted: 7/27/2012 8:28:11 AM
Originally Posted By wagonwheel1:
I've never had a PSA product with cosmoline all over it. Ditto. That's not cosmoline, and you could have just sent a patch down the bore, wiped off the internal parts, relubed, and been good to go. The bore will be fine. Everyone's got their favorite lubricants and cleaners. There are many to choose from, and most will work fine. Pay attention to the material specifications, take cost into consideration (there's no reason to pay a lot), and pick your own. I use Magnalube grease, MPro7 oil, and Mobil 1 10w40 motor oil, depending how lazy I am. All work well. |
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Posted: 7/27/2012 8:42:12 AM
Thanks for the responses. Appreciate the feedback, and good to learn from others.
I didn't buy it directly from psa - but when we opened it up at the dealer, he mentioned that it still had a good bit of cosmoline still on it. Maybe so, maybe not. Black, oily, dripping off the BCG... |
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Posted: 7/27/2012 8:14:53 PM
Originally Posted By Xeusao: Thanks for the responses. Appreciate the feedback, and good to learn from others. I didn't buy it directly from psa - but when we opened it up at the dealer, he mentioned that it still had a good bit of cosmoline still on it. Maybe so, maybe not. Black, oily, dripping off the BCG... If it was dripping it damn sure wasn't cosmoline. You'll be fine btw and welcome to the forum. |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 1:44:06 AM
[Last Edit: 8/1/2012 1:10:06 AM by Unicorn]
It's not cosmoline. That is a thick brown grease. The stuff on your rifle was just an oil PSA put on to prevent rust in storage and shipment. We get guns that almost look like they were dunked in oil before being put in plastic.
The black you kept getting from the bore was carbon from test firing. It's in the pores of the metal and will almost never come completely clean. Any oil removing cleaner will get that off. You don't need an expensive copper solvent. Rarely do you need it at all, especially in a chrome lined bore. Once every couple thousand rounds at most. Edited to make a couple spelling corrections and small addition. Changes are in blue. |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 9:20:52 AM
Originally Posted By Unicorn:
It's not cosmoline. That is a thick brown grease. The stuff on your rifle was just an oil PSA put on to prevent rust in storage and shipment. We get guns that almost look like they were dunked in oil before being put in plasric. Rthe black you kept getting from the bore was carbon from test firing. It's in the pores of the metal and will almost never come completely clean. Any oil removing cleaner will get that off. You don't need an expensive copprr solvent. Rarely do you need it at all especially in a chrome lined bore. Once every couple rounds. ....very much appreciate this insight. Good to hear from someone who's "hands on" seen what I'm talking about and can diagnose. Moreover, each of you has been great, and it's good to know (vs. some other forums), that individuals on here are helpful, encouraging, and not demeaning when someone asks a blatantly obvious question. Cheers and well wishes to each of you. |
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Posted: 8/2/2012 9:21:26 PM
I'm certain it's just grease, not cosmoline. Use a degreaser such as Gun-scrubber and it will cut right thru it. Remember to replace with a light coat of CLP or equivalent afterwards.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:10:42 PM
[Last Edit: 8/5/2012 4:13:32 PM by French_are_Weenies]
Things that make you go "huh".
Like why did the dealer recommend using a copper cleaner to remove extra oil? I think I'd be inclined not to take his recommendations very seriously the next time he makes a suggestion. Your barrel is probably chrome-lined - that stuff is pretty tough - either way, the fact that you ran a patch with lube in it before you called it a night, may have displaced/removed a lot of the copper cleaner from the barrel - you should be fine. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:14:21 AM
As you live in SC––You could try the old "solar cooker" cleaner––Make an alumininum foil half moon, put you rifle in it on an incline facing into the sun on a good 100 degree plus day, and put some clear plastice or reynolds wrap on top––will melt comsoline or regular grease, or at least soften it up. I agree with the earlier posts though, you should be GTG as long as you properly lube the weapon now, as I too doubt it is really cosmo––that crap is either reddish or brown, smells terrible, and most defintitely would not be free-flowing in the box.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 6:03:57 AM
Originally Posted By dmb4765:
As you live in SC––You could try the old "solar cooker" cleaner––Make an alumininum foil half moon, put you rifle in it on an incline facing into the sun on a good 100 degree plus day, and put some clear plastice or reynolds wrap on top––will melt comsoline or regular grease, or at least soften it up. I agree with the earlier posts though, you should be GTG as long as you properly lube the weapon now, as I too doubt it is really cosmo––that crap is either reddish or brown, smells terrible, and most defintitely would not be free-flowing in the box. Overkill for this. It's just a lot of a light oil they put on to prevent rust during shipping. A can of brake cleaner or Gun Scrubber would be more than enough to get it clean. Followed by proper lubrication with the lube of his choice. Some manufacturers just use a light coat, and rely on the vapor inhibiting bag and/or wrap. Others will very liberally apply oil then stuff it in a plastic bag, or just in the box if it's not foam lined. As if they just took an aerosol can and just started spraying madly. I wonder how much G96 Rock River goes through a year. Their rifles are almost dripping with it sometimes. I'm not saying it's a bad thing though. Much better and easier to clean oil off a rifle, and rust because whoever shipped it did so in a damp container. |
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