Very convenient.

Thanks.

Ive used the SuperLube on my TC's before as it was sold as a TC breech Plug grease,and it works extremely well in that application.

That said a few years ago on the 1911forum.com one of the forum members had issues with the SuperLube grease turning gummy and corrosion in the gun when it came in contact with Break Free CLP during storage.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=65119&highlight=Super+Lube+compatibility

Always wondered about that as it was the only comment Ive seen in SuperLube incompatibility.
Anyone here currently seen any incompatibility issues with SuperLube Grease and CLP,or any other combination?

Interesting. I've spoken with multiple vets on lubing the M16/M4 and 2 vets in particular said never would they use grease for the reasons I mentioned above: it holds in the sand/grit/grime/etc. CLP will let it cycle on out. Both said that running the M4 as wet as can be was the key to keeping it running once it gets covered in grit. I've had great luck with CLP doing exactly as it was designed and I think it cleans and lubes rather well. the secret is to use CLP and only CLP. Do not combine it with anything else. I'd rather carry a small 2-4 oz bottle of CLP in my pocket for quick spot clean and lube jobs than try and rely on grease. As usual there is more than 1 way to butcher a cow, but it does help to have a sharp knife.

Thanks Gamma.
Good feedback and what I was looking for.Yeah I thought it was an unusual situation at the time the thread I linked was running.And like I said,its the only comment Ive seen in regards to SuperLube incompatibility,including on the muzzleloading forums.I used the SuperLube on a few inline breech plugs for a couple seasons and saw no issues with the grease being used in/around Ballistol or Break Free CLP.But that thread always stuck in my mind.

I've been following this thread from post #1; I've read, reread it and read it again. This is probably one of the most informative threads I've read in the M&C forum.

I can really see the advantage of using grease on an AR, especially the example used by the OP and his carbine riding around in the trunk for a couple months. Grease will stay put, oil will not. This is the info. I was looking for. I get tired of lubing my ARs, storing them vertically and then coming back in a day or two and the oil that was on the BCG is now all over the buffer. I'm like the OP, I want to be able to pull it from the safe, put it into use and KNOW it is still lubed and will run like I need it to.

Most of it makes sense, but one post in particular leads me to a question. Another poster stated he uses Mobil 1 synthetic grease for his AR, IIRC. I use AMSOIL synthetic grease around the house. I have seen this grease leak out of a grease gun like water on a hot day. Would it still be advisable to use this on an AR? It seems to me if it will get runny like this on a hot day, it won't stay put on the AR once it gets hot. Am I making sense or am I way off base?

I use the Rig, but I think it is all going to come down to personal preference and performance, use what works best for you and your weapon.

I've only ever run across one rifle that wouldn't function well only because it was dirty. It was a 10.5" suppressed full auto AR used by our SWAT team and had thousands of rounds through it without proper cleaning. SBR's run dirty, suppressed weapons run really dirty, and full auto weapons tend to see alot of rounds. This all combined with a guy who had never been shown how to properly clean his weapon (don't ask, I have no idea why they let this happen). This rifle had been cleaned, just not correctly, and buildup in the chamber was causing issues. It was well lubricated, but was malfunctioning due to the level of build up alone.

On the other hand, I've had quite a few rifles stop running because they ran dry. While a rifle will usually run completely dry for a while, the combination of dry and dirt will lead to a malfunctioning rifle. Typically, a little squirt of oil will bring these rifles back online.

So if my options are to use a lube that will stick around and still be wet after 600 rounds (Slip 2000, Lucas, Mobil 1) or use one that will burn off in a couple hundred rounds (I've never had to wait until 600 rounds for CLP to burn off) I'll choose the former every time. The oils that resist burning off also seem to keep the carbon buiildup from caking, which helps keep the rifle running smoothly. I also choose to use grease in a few spots on the AR because it stays put while a rifle is riding around in a case in my trunk, and I would do so regardless of which oil I chose to use. This has nothing to do with what happens after the gun is dirty, it just allows me to start with a lubed weapon from a situation where it is stored.

It has also not been my experience that CLP (or any oil) "cycles out of the weapon" all the "grit, grime, sand, and other substances". CLP doesn't cycle out, it burns off. It leaves all the crap but also goes dry, which is the most likely way for a weapon to stop working. Better oils wil still be there, keeping the weapon lubricated, though also dirty, through quite a few more rounds. They will, however, slowly run out of the action due to gravity when stored for long periods of time, which is where my application for grease in a few critical areas comes into play. I suppose if you shot a few hundred rounds and then stuck your rifle back into storage for a few months the oil might carry out some of the buildup (if the oil was still wet) but I can't imagine why I would do that. You did specify "for military applications" so perhaps one in the military would.

If CLP works for you, that's fine, but I submit that there are much better options available.

Lukas Oil marine grease. The blue stuff.

Just the stabilizer or mixed with oil?

FWIW, it's a very safe bet that the Lucas lithium grease has nowhere near the teflon content of the TW25b ... and the teflon content is what's unique about that product.

No argument, it was just an observation. Lucas got back to my email and said it was not acceptable for use on small arms, but didn't answer my question about the Teflon content. I still have pleny of uses for Lithium grease that are not firearm related so no harm done.

XF7 Used on high shear friction areas

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Damn!!! Beat me to it!!