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Posted: 12/19/2014 10:13:08 AM EDT
New to forum, tried a friends suppressor on my windham ar and noticed that the empties land at about 2:30 and normally at 4:00.  I assume its over gassed, how is that problem corrected?
Link Posted: 12/19/2014 10:18:13 AM EDT
[#1]
You would want to install a heavier buffer and/or an adjustable gas block.
Personally, I'd just install a heavier buffer. It's the cheapest and easiest option.
I'd only go adjustable gas block if you are having malfunction issues due to over gassing.
Link Posted: 12/19/2014 2:26:44 PM EDT
[#2]
I assume that this is a common issue with a suppressor, because you are lengthening the barrel essentially, which will create more pressure.  Will the heavier buffer also help reduce the blowback gas in my face?
Link Posted: 12/19/2014 2:40:54 PM EDT
[#3]
A heavier buffer will help slow the action and reduce felt recoil and gas blow back.  It is important to verify that the weapon will still function properly when not suppressed.  The ejection pattern doesn't matter as long as the weapon functions reliably.





The AR gas vent, which replaces the useless forward assist, helps with blow back, as does the PRI Gasbuster and BCM Gunfighter charging handles.  On the cheap you can drill a hole thru a standard charging handle to vent gas out of the channel. link to vent hole

 
Link Posted: 12/19/2014 11:20:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2014 11:53:22 PM EDT
[#5]
How do you know which buffer over the stock one? 16" barrel
Link Posted: 12/20/2014 1:54:16 AM EDT
[#6]
I've had good luck with Colt H2 buffers from Brownells



I now use JP Silent System in all my new rifles, it drastically reduces felt recoil with a suppressor, but is expensive.
Link Posted: 12/20/2014 2:21:18 AM EDT
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New to forum, tried a friends suppressor on my windham ar and noticed that the empties land at about 2:30 and normally at 4:00.  I assume its over gassed, how is that problem corrected?
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Welcome to our humble side of the net

As mentioned, a heavier buffer or bolt carrier will help with felt recoil. An adjustable gas block will also help but might be overkill. If you intend to invest in your own suppressor (WORTH EVERY FUCKING PENNY) you may want to get a gas buster charging handle along with a heavier carrier and buffer.

Again, as others have mentioned, you should always make certain that your rifle will cycle fine in your final configuration un-suppressed.
Link Posted: 12/20/2014 11:40:15 AM EDT
[#8]
My suppressor is on the way just waiting on the doj to do their thing on a forum 4 and a form 1. One will be for a .223 and the other for a blackout. Thanks for the replies, it's great to have people with knowledge of these guns that will help out .
Link Posted: 12/20/2014 1:21:12 PM EDT
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My suppressor is on the way just waiting on the doj to do their thing on a forum 4 and a form 1. One will be for a .223 and the other for a blackout. Thanks for the replies, it's great to have people with knowledge of these guns that will help out .
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Welcome. It refreshing to have new members that ask intelligent questions.
Link Posted: 12/20/2014 11:51:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/21/2014 6:20:33 PM EDT
[#11]
You could use a Tubb carrier weight and use your standard buffer. It doesn't really matter if the extra weight is in the carrier or the buffer its all the same.

It comes with 3 pieces the tube with a flange on it that slides into the back of the carrier. Then 2 inserts one steel and one tungsten you can only use 1 at a time.

From the produce info
The CWS™ itself, with no additional weight inserts, weighs 1.54 ounces.
The CWS™ with the stainless insert weighs 2.79 ounces (1.25 insert weight)
CWS™ with the carbide insert weighs 4.05 ounces (2.51 insert weight).

tubb carrier weight

4 oz is more than the difference between a standard and H3 buffer. The CWS runs about $60 which is probably less than the cost of 2 buffers

The CWS was made to handle the heavy bullet loads and slower powders (more gas) in high power shooting, or the match 24" barrels with rifle length gas systems (even more gas)
Link Posted: 12/22/2014 5:48:39 PM EDT
[#12]
It is an adjustable stock with stock buffer.

Link Posted: 12/23/2014 12:50:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2014 10:09:43 AM EDT
[#14]
Ordered it already, thanks for your help
Link Posted: 12/23/2014 2:28:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/24/2014 12:41:09 AM EDT
[#16]
Great info. Dano, thank you for your help, I'll let you know how it goes, I'll have the parts in a couple days.
Link Posted: 12/30/2014 10:11:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Ordered a T3 buffer from spikes along with a gunfighter charging handle, installed the two and ran 15 rounds through it without the suppressor and it ran fine.  I put the suppressor on and ran the rest of the mag.  Everything ran fine, the gas blowback was drastically reduced and the recoil is almost non existent.  Im not sure how I can make it any better. Thanks for the input and recommendations, anything I'm overlooking?

Link Posted: 12/31/2014 5:24:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/31/2014 11:00:19 AM EDT
[#19]
Thanks for your help.
Link Posted: 12/31/2014 11:09:02 AM EDT
[#20]
The Vltor A5 system seems to work really well if you don't have an adjustable gas block. I've been real happy with it so far.
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