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Posted: 11/29/2014 4:18:06 PM EDT
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1/8 is a lot for rotation. Is the guide pin broken?
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Posted: 11/29/2014 4:25:07 PM EDT
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Not terribly uncommon when the upper is not assembled correctly. If this is brand new, you have two choices - fix it, or send it back.
Whomever the manufacturer/assembler is, you should state that here for the record, it is a sign of lack of QC. Personally, I'd fix it myself, as I have the tools and experience and this is likely a minor issue. While you say it is 1/8" this os likely subjective as the barrel cannot rotate quite that much, but if it has a front sight post, you might mean the sight posts has 1/8" of movement. If the barrel nut is just loose, and there is no issue with the indexing pin in the barrel, then it is common to have some level of rotation, typically this would be closer to 1/32" of play. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:25:56 PM EDT
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If it is actually a 1/8 of an inch then the barrel may be loose in the barrel extension.
If the barrel is moving and the feed ramps are not it is not a do it yourself project. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:35:50 PM EDT
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If it is actually a 1/8 of an inch then the barrel may be loose in the barrel extension. If the barrel is moving and the feed ramps are not it is not a do it yourself project. While entirely possible - have you ever experienced such a thing? I know technically they are simply installed and torqued to 120 lbs... so they CAN come loose, I have never seen it. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:58:13 PM EDT
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1/8 was what mine was doing with a lose barrel nut. The gas tube was preventing it from moving further. Easy fix. Palmetto has a decent wrench on sale for $18.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:02:59 PM EDT
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1/8 was what mine was doing with a lose barrel nut. The gas the was preventing it from moving further. The index pin in the upper receiver slot should govern movement, WAY before the gas tube has any bearing at all. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:25:47 PM EDT
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Thanks for the posts, I'm googlin' barrel wobble and seeing some stuff too. My hand guard doesn't move just the barrel and front sight post if that means anything. The barrel rotates but I would assume the front sight would be even farther off......anyway it would be hard to imagine this rifle hitting in a 12 inch circle at 100 yards using the front sight post and it moving this much.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:36:50 PM EDT
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The index pin in the upper receiver slot should govern movement, WAY before the gas tube has any bearing at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1/8 was what mine was doing with a lose barrel nut. The gas the was preventing it from moving further. The index pin in the upper receiver slot should govern movement, WAY before the gas tube has any bearing at all. My bag. My rail was rotating not the barrel. |
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Posted: 11/30/2014 10:30:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMy bag (sic). My rail was rotating not the barrel. That still is a problem. Now you need to identify where it is rotating and then why. Is it barrel nut rotating or rail on the nut assembly? You will figure this out. Please let us know what you discovered. We all learn from these experiences. Best, and Thanks |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 1:48:04 AM EDT
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Contact the manufacturer and have them fix it.
CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 9:23:10 AM EDT
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While entirely possible - have you ever experienced such a thing? I know technically they are simply installed and torqued to 120 lbs... so they CAN come loose, I have never seen it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is actually a 1/8 of an inch then the barrel may be loose in the barrel extension. If the barrel is moving and the feed ramps are not it is not a do it yourself project. While entirely possible - have you ever experienced such a thing? I know technically they are simply installed and torqued to 120 lbs... so they CAN come loose, I have never seen it. Yes I have. Once in forty years, give or take. It does not seem likely, but 1/8” is a lot unless the index pin is sheared. Whatever the problem is, shipping a rifle with a loose barrel seems like really poor QA. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 2:14:20 PM EDT
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Contact the manufacturer and have them fix it. CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 That's proving to be easier said than done...... |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 3:53:48 PM EDT
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That's proving to be easier said than done...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Contact the manufacturer and have them fix it. CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 That's proving to be easier said than done...... Did you ever say who made it? And if not, why not? |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 1:13:34 AM EDT
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OP,
Any report? Marco... |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:59:11 PM EDT
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It has been delivered to manufacturer for 10 days, still no word......folks, ya'll need to pay attention to people on here who when asked for advice say buy the colt's . I wish I would have.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:07:49 AM EDT
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It has been delivered to manufacturer for 10 days, still no word......folks, ya'll need to pay attention to people on here who when asked for advice say buy the colt's . I wish I would have. What manufacturer is it? |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 1:54:17 AM EDT
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It has been delivered to manufacturer for 10 days, still no word......folks, ya'll need to pay attention to people on here who when asked for advice say buy the colt's . I wish I would have.  LOL Careful John, or you'll start another "'why nothing is as good as Colt" thread-jack.
There are a number of great manufacturers, Colt is one. Let us know how it goes. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 12:01:41 PM EDT
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Why isn't he telling who the manufacturer is?
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Posted: 12/23/2014 12:21:40 PM EDT
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What are you all talking about. This is that new Free Float barrel.
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Posted: 12/23/2014 12:34:44 PM EDT
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What are you all talking about. This is that new Free Float barrel. care to explain? |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 2:25:31 PM EDT
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What are you all talking about. This is that new Free Float barrel. Got you, and you mean from the upper receiver as well. 
On the positive note, the barrel is going to shoot where every the muzzle is pointed, but too bad that getting the muzzle in to same alignment with the sights/POI is not repeatable since the front sight can be anywhere from left or right, depending which way the barrel rotates in the upper receiver each shot. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 3:02:35 PM EDT
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What are you all talking about. This is that new Free Float barrel. So was the barrel extension turning individual of the barrel, or was the whole barrel assembly turning in the upper? Gotta be either extension was never torqued, or dicked up index pin, upper receiver out of spec.... |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 4:43:17 AM EDT
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So was the barrel extension turning individual of the barrel, or was the whole barrel assembly turning in the upper? Gotta be either extension was never torqued, or dicked up index pin, upper receiver out of spec.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What are you all talking about. This is that new Free Float barrel. So was the barrel extension turning individual of the barrel, or was the whole barrel assembly turning in the upper? Gotta be either extension was never torqued, or dicked up index pin, upper receiver out of spec.... No, probably a normal production three min rifle build, and the barrel nut threads where not mated with the upper threads to begin with, with the barrel nut not correctly tightened from the start. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 7:06:46 AM EDT
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It has been delivered to manufacturer for 10 days, still no word......folks, ya'll need to pay attention to people on here who when asked for advice say buy the colt's . I wish I would have. My NIB Colt 6951 (9mm) had a loose barrel when it arrived. It took 3 weeks to get it back so Colt isn't always perfect. |
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