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AR10Fannatic
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Posted: 11/28/2012 12:21:50 PM
So my SASS is finally due for a good optic, looking for some input. AR-10 with 20" kreiger barrel, looking for a good long range optic.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 1:26:34 PM
Budget?
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Posted: 11/28/2012 1:45:26 PM
I would say around 500-800, I don't want to skimp on the optics though.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 1:51:47 PM
In that price range I'd look at the Vortex PST optics line.
It might run you $100 more than your budget, but you'll get a solid scope with a lifetime warranty and your preference of mil/mil or moa/moa.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 12:24:31 PM
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didn't see price range. Sorry
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Posted: 11/29/2012 1:25:19 PM
SWFA SS 10x42 HD Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Maxes out your budget; but I would if it were me. Maybe wait for one to turn up on the sample list, a sale, or on the EE second-hand.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 2:31:26 PM
I can go a little higher if there is a premier optic out there. Why do you guys like the Vortex and the SWFA?
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Posted: 11/29/2012 3:19:36 PM
I picked up a new 6-24 PST second focal plane NIB for $750 and I am very pleased wih it!
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Posted: 11/29/2012 5:06:33 PM
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I like the SWFA because it has a solid track record; it is very well regarded, and the HD glass is really good. Also SWFA has excellent customer service; but then so does Vortex.
I think the HD glass in the SWFA will be better than the Vortex PST, but the PST has options like FFP and illumination that the SS doesnt.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 9:37:49 PM
Just put a millet 6-25x56. I little heavy and not a lot of ring options but comes with rings and gets out there. Costs about $456
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Posted: 11/30/2012 7:39:32 PM
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I have used the SWFA SS 10x on several rifles (I mean each one has it's own) as well as a 20x on an AR-50.

Not the HD, but the $299 ones.

I have reached out to 1k with my SASS with a 10x on it using an ArmaLite 1 piece 30mm scope mount.

My older 24 inch T has been out there a little further.

Damn good scopes.

10x on:

110FP in .30-06.
SASS
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If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 11/30/2012 7:40:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Pictorious:
Just put a millet 6-25x56. I little heavy and not a lot of ring options but comes with rings and gets out there. Costs about $456


Just tried one a few weeks ago on my .308 AR-30. Ran out of elevation adjustment at about 800 yards............about 35 MOA up.

Put the 10x SS back on it and it has plenty of elevation adjustment.

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 12/2/2012 10:43:47 AM
Originally Posted By AR10Fannatic:
I can go a little higher if there is a premier optic out there. Why do you guys like the Vortex and the SWFA?


I have both a Vortex Viper 6.5-20 and SWFA 10X42HD, both have been on my AR10. The SWFA being a fixed 10X is quick and easy to range with. The added magnification of the Vortex is nice at longer ranges. Watch the EE for a good deal on a used one. More budget, look at Nightforce.

If you are going to be shooting at 1K yds think about getting a 20moa raiser.

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Posted: 12/2/2012 11:24:25 AM
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If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:22:13 AM
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Originally Posted By madcratebuilder:
Originally Posted By AR10Fannatic:
I can go a little higher if there is a premier optic out there. Why do you guys like the Vortex and the SWFA?


I have both a Vortex Viper 6.5-20 and SWFA 10X42HD, both have been on my AR10. The SWFA being a fixed 10X is quick and easy to range with. The added magnification of the Vortex is nice at longer ranges. Watch the EE for a good deal on a used one. More budget, look at Nightforce.

If you are going to be shooting at 1K yds think about getting a 20moa raiser.




either the SWFA Super Sniper 16x MRAD or the Vortex 6-24 FFP MRAD. you won't need a MOA/canted mount with either of these to hit 1000 yards. if you use your rifle hard, you'll be very disappointed in a Millet scope. they will never have the repeatability of Vortex or SWFA scopes.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:42:48 AM
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Even though mine is an MOA model , I can't imagine the mil model having more internal adjustment. I was close to running out of adjustment. Te furthest I can shoot on a normal basis is 730 yards. I can't remember how much adjustment I had left but I would not make it out to 1k. I had to get a 20 MOA ADM mount...
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:45:31 AM
Originally Posted By Ghostface:
Even though mine is an MOA model , I can't imagine the mil model having more internal adjustment. I was close to running out of adjustment. Te furthest I can shoot on a normal basis is 730 yards. I can't remember how much adjustment I had left but I would make it out to 1k. I had to get a 20 MOA ADM mount...


Your what?

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:33:20 AM
As you near the end of the vertical adjustment you are limited on the horizontal adjustment. Using a 20moa base well keep the vertical adjustment closer to center allowing more usable horizontal adjustment.

I have to deal with a steady 15 mph 90* cross wind at one location I use, that's a lot of windage cranked in.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 12:12:09 PM
Originally Posted By Ghostface:
I picked up a new 6-24 PST second focal plane NIB for $750 and I am very pleased wih it!



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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:06:56 PM
Originally Posted By Ghostface:
Originally Posted By Ghostface:
I picked up a new 6-24 PST second focal plane NIB for $750 and I am very pleased wih it!



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Just wondering because my SS scopes have never run out of elevation at 1k.


If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:15:12 PM
I'm pretty sure the PSTs have only 65 MOA of adjustment just like the Leupolds...
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:42:11 PM
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My research has led me towards the Weaver 3-15s. The image quality is supposed to be up there with the best as well as the tracking, though they do lack a couple of the "features" that are gaining popularity. Price range 700-900 for the EMDR illuminated ones.

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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:58:27 PM
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Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By Ghostface:
Originally Posted By Ghostface:
I picked up a new 6-24 PST second focal plane NIB for $750 and I am very pleased wih it!



This...



Just wondering because my SS scopes have never run out of elevation at 1k.



Thats only 'cause you shoot downhill
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Posted: 12/7/2012 5:31:46 AM
Considering how much $$ you have already invested in your rifle, just save your pennys and buy this:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-5-20x50-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P51653.aspx

At least that's what I did after using a cheaper scope. Mine is not a SASS but it does have a PacNor barrel and a few other goodies that made it worth the investment in a high dollar scope.

Good Luck!
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