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Tactical_T
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Posted: 4/17/2010 12:39:34 AM
Anybody hear anything about Armalite maybe offereing a Gas Piston AR-10 rifle?

Looks like Sig, LWRC, and HK are already going that route.
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Posted: 4/17/2010 1:45:40 AM
Why?

Make a heavy rifle heavier by adding more moving parts, whats the point?

First, the US Army and USMC M110 works just fine and its DI.
The new Brittish DM rifle is a LMT .308 and its DI.
Not to mention the Larue OBR.

Now however if you must have a piston .308, watch Sig, they are going to introduce a piston AR15, and piston AR10 sometime on the horizon. Looks like their piston AR10 will be the same style and use the same mags as Armalite.
Eat the apple, . . .

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Posted: 4/17/2010 6:47:51 AM
WOW, are you in trouble!
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Posted: 4/17/2010 12:01:20 PM
Dont know why they would.
You know what that white stuff is on top of chicken shit?... More shit.
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Posted: 5/8/2010 6:14:05 PM
I offered my son a AR-10.
He said thanks, but he wants a SCAR type. That would be a H&K manufactured weapon.
I believe Bushmaser is making the same kind of interchangeable caliber, piston/gas weapon.
I am sure Armalite is working on something to compete in this realm.
Does anyone know for sure, yes or no if they are?
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Posted: 5/8/2010 6:18:23 PM
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Posted: 5/8/2010 6:18:59 PM
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Posted: 5/8/2010 6:55:05 PM
Where can we get more info on this rifle?
I read a small write up in Small arms Review.
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Posted: 5/8/2010 8:54:57 PM
Originally Posted By Baddawg:
I offered my son a AR-10.
He said thanks, but he wants a SCAR type. That would be a H&K manufactured weapon.
I believe Bushmaser is making the same kind of interchangeable caliber, piston/gas weapon.
I am sure Armalite is working on something to compete in this realm.
Does anyone know for sure, yes or no if they are?


Why should they? The gas piston is a solution looking for a problem.
If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 5/9/2010 10:13:49 AM
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Posted: 5/9/2010 1:14:26 PM
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Shivan,
Nice pictures, almost wish I could post pics, but what are we looking at? SIG, S&W?
The link you provided: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=62&t=471846 just brought me to the AR-10 thread page.
Are you saying that gas/piston is better than direct impingement?
Did I get that right?
Our kid is a Marine and has all kinds of ideas in his head about weapons.
If the lad is going on about some esoteric ideas, fine, but if this is a major weapons market shift with improvements at hand, let us discuss.
Nice toys by the way!!

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Why should they? The gas piston is a solution looking for a problem.


Larry,
Our lad is thinking of buying a SCAR type.
Imagine not wanting an AR-10 w/ 20" stainless barrel?
That is why I posted.

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Originally Posted By Baddawg:
Shivan,
Nice pictures, almost wish I could post pics, but what are we looking at? SIG, S&W?
The link you provided: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=62&t=471846 just brought me to the AR-10 thread page.
Are you saying that gas/piston is better than direct impingement?
Did I get that right?
Our kid is a Marine and has all kinds of ideas in his head about weapons.
If the lad is going on about some esoteric ideas, fine, but if this is a major weapons market shift with improvements at hand, let us discuss.
Nice toys by the way!!

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Why should they? The gas piston is a solution looking for a problem.


Larry,
Our lad is thinking of buying a SCAR type.
Imagine not wanting an AR-10 w/ 20" stainless barrel?
That is why I posted.

R


Not all Armalites are 20" stainless.
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Posted: 5/9/2010 8:00:12 PM
Geezer,
He does not want an Armalite because it does not have gas/piston.
Not because it has a 20" stainless barrel.
He does not want anything but a SCAR w/ gas piston.
R
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Posted: 5/9/2010 11:21:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Baddawg:
Shivan,
Nice pictures, almost wish I could post pics, but what are we looking at? SIG, S&W?
The link you provided: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=62&t=471846 just brought me to the AR-10 thread page.
Are you saying that gas/piston is better than direct impingement?
Did I get that right?
Our kid is a Marine and has all kinds of ideas in his head about weapons.
If the lad is going on about some esoteric ideas, fine, but if this is a major weapons market shift with improvements at hand, let us discuss.
Nice toys by the way!!

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Why should they? The gas piston is a solution looking for a problem.


Larry,
Our lad is thinking of buying a SCAR type.
Imagine not wanting an AR-10 w/ 20" stainless barrel?
That is why I posted.

R


Have him committed. This would be free to him, right?

Show him this picture of an A4 with stainless barrel that has been blackened. I was hitting a 12 inch gong (so was the guy putting on the event) today with the can mounted:



Without the can:



He wouldn't want one of those?????????????

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 5/10/2010 10:17:00 PM
Larry,
Yes, he declined something similar to your beauties.
Thinking maybe he was deranged I asked here and the Armalite industry thread.
He might be on to something and also he did not want to leave me empty handed.
I was going to do another build anyway.
Now it looks like it will be gas/piston, was hoping it would be Armalite. But there are other manufacturers.....
R
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Posted: 5/11/2010 7:05:31 PM
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By Baddawg:
I offered my son a AR-10.
He said thanks, but he wants a SCAR type. That would be a H&K manufactured weapon.
I believe Bushmaser is making the same kind of interchangeable caliber, piston/gas weapon.
I am sure Armalite is working on something to compete in this realm.
Does anyone know for sure, yes or no if they are?


Why should they? The gas piston is a solution looking for a problem.


Although i think there is nothing wrong with the Di system that has so successfully prevailed for so long, i think there is always room for improvement or new development to enhance anything. if companies start offering new products of many variations, guess what... all rifles and parts become cheaper to stay competitive. so by all means...companies should be researching and developing new products for us consumers...it will only further help to grow the firearms industry and thats what we want right?
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Posted: 5/11/2010 7:15:24 PM
Originally Posted By monsonman:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By Baddawg:
I offered my son a AR-10.
He said thanks, but he wants a SCAR type. That would be a H&K manufactured weapon.
I believe Bushmaser is making the same kind of interchangeable caliber, piston/gas weapon.
I am sure Armalite is working on something to compete in this realm.
Does anyone know for sure, yes or no if they are?


Why should they? The gas piston is a solution looking for a problem.


Although i think there is nothing wrong with the Di system that has so successfully prevailed for so long, i think there is always room for improvement or new development to enhance anything. if companies start offering new products of many variations, guess what... all rifles and parts become cheaper to stay competitive. so by all means...companies should be researching and developing new products for us consumers...it will only further help to grow the firearms industry and thats what we want right?


Piston driven rifles are by no means a "new development".

Some people act like it's some new and great thing and it is not.

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Posted: 5/11/2010 8:42:46 PM
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By monsonman:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By Baddawg:
I offered my son a AR-10.
He said thanks, but he wants a SCAR type. That would be a H&K manufactured weapon.
I believe Bushmaser is making the same kind of interchangeable caliber, piston/gas weapon.
I am sure Armalite is working on something to compete in this realm.
Does anyone know for sure, yes or no if they are?


Why should they? The gas piston is a solution looking for a problem.


Although i think there is nothing wrong with the Di system that has so successfully prevailed for so long, i think there is always room for improvement or new development to enhance anything. if companies start offering new products of many variations, guess what... all rifles and parts become cheaper to stay competitive. so by all means...companies should be researching and developing new products for us consumers...it will only further help to grow the firearms industry and thats what we want right?


Piston driven rifles are by no means a "new development".

Some people act like it's some new and great thing and it is not.



of course they aren't, but it is a pretty new thing when talking about drop in kits and such for .308. I dont see why people are so opposed to piston systems. No one is forcing you to buy one, and it will only help in the long run.
I dont have a piston ar and i see nothing wrong with companies wanting to make them. the more variety there is, the more power the consumers have. why cant companies work to perfect a system for consumers? if that isnt what you want fine, but it isnt going to make any of the existing rifles obsolete so why care so much?
I'm not arguing for or against DI or GP, i'm simply stating that it is important to encourage companies to explore new technologies so the industry continues to grow
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Posted: 5/12/2010 8:50:48 AM
I would be interested in one. The industry could use this GP system in the ar-10 to "spur" sales. There seems to be interests, so why not? The GP system has been around a while; however, I like to see what improvements can be made to existing ar-10's if possible.
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Posted: 5/12/2010 9:01:48 AM
Originally Posted By Baddawg:
Larry,
Yes, he declined something similar to your beauties.
Thinking maybe he was deranged I asked here and the Armalite industry thread.
He might be on to something and also he did not want to leave me empty handed.
I was going to do another build anyway.
Now it looks like it will be gas/piston, was hoping it would be Armalite. But there are other manufacturers.....
R


Maybe he would like something like this?



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Posted: 5/12/2010 9:49:59 AM
Originally Posted By DavidC:
Originally Posted By Baddawg:
Larry,
Yes, he declined something similar to your beauties.
Thinking maybe he was deranged I asked here and the Armalite industry thread.
He might be on to something and also he did not want to leave me empty handed.
I was going to do another build anyway.
Now it looks like it will be gas/piston, was hoping it would be Armalite. But there are other manufacturers.....
R


Maybe he would like something like this?

http://www.chernicoff.com/images/painted-sbr2.jpg



sweet looking rig. what are specs?
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Posted: 5/12/2010 1:34:30 PM
Originally Posted By monsonman:
Originally Posted By DavidC:
Originally Posted By Baddawg:
Larry,
Yes, he declined something similar to your beauties.
Thinking maybe he was deranged I asked here and the Armalite industry thread.
He might be on to something and also he did not want to leave me empty handed.
I was going to do another build anyway.
Now it looks like it will be gas/piston, was hoping it would be Armalite. But there are other manufacturers.....
R


Maybe he would like something like this?

http://www.chernicoff.com/images/painted-sbr2.jpg



sweet looking rig. what are specs?


It's a Noveske Leonidas setup.

12.5" barrel
YHM can
Ugly paint job

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Posted: 5/12/2010 9:06:31 PM
I think the FN SCAR is ugly, seriously doubt I'd ever own one. I really like my AR-10 with the black furniture. Don't care for the green.
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Posted: 5/13/2010 7:42:36 PM
I might have some interest in one for a Suppressed SBR type setup cause I am L handed & I eat so much gass w/ NTCH

However, I would have to compare two guns w/ & w/o the piston stuff to see if the diff in weight was worth it to me.

For a sniper/counter sniper weapon I prefer the Stoner Gas system for sure though.
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