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Posted: 9/12/2009 8:10:12 PM
Hello,

Just wanted to give an addition to your list of Armalite compatible lowers.

What I have is a CNCed 7075 billet lower. It is made by a company called Aircraft Armament. Some of the lowers have cuts on the front take down pin area to allow a "belt fed upper". (mines not one of them)

Here are some pics! (wish I was better with a camera)





Enjoy. Thanks for the great knowledge based thread!
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Posted: 9/13/2009 5:14:36 PM
more info on this belt fed upper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use a flamethrower for home defense, it always beats the racking of the 870 and the "superior" wounding effects of the AR
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Posted: 9/13/2009 8:57:41 PM
< screen name says it all.

Originally Posted By TaylorWSO:
more info on this belt fed upper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted: 9/21/2009 1:35:23 AM
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Originally Posted By TaylorWSO:
more info on this belt fed upper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not sure about his particular one, but here's the original one

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Stoner Patent for belt fed AR-10
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Posted: 9/21/2009 10:02:46 AM
this guy is making a new one
I use a flamethrower for home defense, it always beats the racking of the 870 and the "superior" wounding effects of the AR
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Posted: 9/21/2009 10:10:34 AM
Originally Posted By TaylorWSO:
this guy is making a new one


DETAILS DAMMIT DETAILS!!!
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Posted: 10/4/2009 3:23:29 PM
It would be very helpful to have the tourqe specs question there
I got this off the Armalite website since I wasn't able to find it here in the FAQ

10-22. QUESTION: What are the torques on an AR-10 barrel nut and the gas keys?

ANSWER: At the factory, the barrel nut is torqued by feel. But, studies have shown the torque for the M15 should be 35 - 80 FOOT lbs. and for the AR-10 45 - 90 FOOT lbs. The torque for the gas keys for both the M-15 and AR-10 should be approximately 55 INCH lbs.
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Posted: 10/4/2009 6:14:38 PM
Originally Posted By gigaphun:
It would be very helpful to have the tourqe specs question there
I got this off the Armalite website since I wasn't able to find it here in the FAQ

10-22. QUESTION: What are the torques on an AR-10 barrel nut and the gas keys?

ANSWER: At the factory, the barrel nut is torqued by feel. But, studies have shown the torque for the M15 should be 35 - 80 FOOT lbs. and for the AR-10 45 - 90 FOOT lbs. The torque for the gas keys for both the M-15 and AR-10 should be approximately 55 INCH lbs.


I have taken a few off, I have yet to not use a cheater bar

good info
I use a flamethrower for home defense, it always beats the racking of the 870 and the "superior" wounding effects of the AR
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Posted: 10/4/2009 9:42:59 PM
Guys what is the AR10 SASS barrel torque?
Thanks
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Posted: 10/14/2009 11:30:58 AM
The same as the AR-10, 45-90 inch lbs.

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Posted: 10/14/2009 12:37:14 PM
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The same as the AR-10, 45-90 inch lbs.

TR




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Posted: 10/15/2009 10:04:22 AM
Originally Posted By shrikefan:
Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
The same as the AR-10, 45-90 inch lbs.

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Oops.....................meant foot lbs.

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Posted: 10/20/2009 12:27:53 PM
Did I miss the FAQ entry about the AR-10 vs AR-10(T) ejection port door retaining rod and how you need the AR-10(T) version if you have a FF handguard?

It'd also be nice to see info about the uppers with forward assist collected here.
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Posted: 11/5/2009 9:38:18 PM
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Thanks guys
got a new question. What is the AR10 SASS gas block ID?
Thanks in advance.
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Posted: 11/5/2009 11:12:33 PM
Originally Posted By MSG90:
Thanks guys
got a new question. What is the AR10 SASS gas block ID?
Thanks in advance.
MSG90


should be .875 to fit the t barrel
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Posted: 11/6/2009 10:21:04 PM
Originally Posted By TaylorWSO:
Originally Posted By MSG90:
Thanks guys
got a new question. What is the AR10 SASS gas block ID?
Thanks in advance.
MSG90


should be .875 to fit the t barrel


Thank you sir.
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Posted: 11/8/2009 2:51:23 PM
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I just have to question a few entries in your guide, you say:

KAC is KAC, and DPMS is based off of it.

DPMS- based off the KAC- not chromelined and triggers usually suck. Some people love them and have gotten a good gun. Some have had to get a new barrel and work the triggers.


The only thing in common with the KAC and the DPMS is the original AR10 mag pattern and maybe the upper receiver thread.

Actually the armalite is closer to a KAC as the uppers interchange (small varience in pin size) Armalite even made upper receivers to fit KAC SR25 lowers, the carriers and bolts interchange as do other parts, the only incompatability is the mag well pattern,

Also not listed is the Larue OSR which is compatable with the SR25 and therefore the AR10 with some minor pin dia changes.
also are you sure the LWRC REPR is totally proprietry as it looks to be the same format as the Larue and SR25

None of this is a critisism of you FAQ, just a second opinion
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Posted: 11/8/2009 6:18:21 PM
Originally Posted By limeytwo:
I just have to question a few entries in your guide, you say:

KAC is KAC, and DPMS is based off of it.

DPMS- based off the KAC- not chromelined and triggers usually suck. Some people love them and have gotten a good gun. Some have had to get a new barrel and work the triggers.


The only thing in common with the KAC and the DPMS is the original AR10 mag pattern and maybe the upper receiver thread.

Actually the armalite is closer to a KAC as the uppers interchange (small varience in pin size) Armalite even made upper receivers to fit KAC SR25 lowers, the carriers and bolts interchange as do other parts, the only incompatability is the mag well pattern,

Also not listed is the Larue OSR which is compatable with the SR25 and therefore the AR10 with some minor pin dia changes.
also are you sure the LWRC REPR is totally proprietry as it looks to be the same format as the Larue and SR25

None of this is a critisism of you FAQ, just a second opinion



this gloss over was done so I wouldn't get bogged down with details of non-ar 10s. I don't want someone to start changing parts because the faq said it could be done

The only reason it was mentioned because at the time, parts were hard to find and there was some mixing going on. I didn't want this to be a thread where we discuss how to swap parts, just general guidlines,

If you want to fill in the blanks respond and I will cut n paste. Im deployed and dont have any reference materials
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Posted: 12/12/2009 5:46:00 AM
Thanks for the info.. was specifically looking at info about buffers.. really helped.
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Posted: 12/13/2009 10:45:31 PM
So according to this, if I were to get the Remington R25 which is basically a DPMS rifle the only uppers I could use to change stuff around with would be DPMS and Knights, correct? A store near me has the Remington version and I'm considering it as an easy way in on the AR10 type. Would this be a good idea or would I just be better off building from an Aero and going the Armalite compatible route?
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Originally Posted By Addicted2Fish:
So according to this, if I were to get the Remington R25 which is basically a DPMS rifle the only uppers I could use to change stuff around with would be DPMS and Knights, correct? A store near me has the Remington version and I'm considering it as an easy way in on the AR10 type. Would this be a good idea or would I just be better off building from an Aero and going the Armalite compatible route?


Does the NY ban specifically ban the ArmaLite? If not, why spend extra money for the Aero?

If you read about 2 posts up, the Knights and DPMS uppers are not interchangeable.

Don't do all the mix and try to match stuff, pick one brand of .308 AR(whichever brand that is) and stick with it for uppers, etc.

And the DPMS/Remington is a .308 AR, not an AR10 type.

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

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Posted: 12/14/2009 2:58:29 PM
I wouldn't mix and match either.. doesn't seem to be a standardization in the AR10/AR 308 world like it is in the AR-15.
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn:
Did I miss the FAQ entry about the AR-10 vs AR-10(T) ejection port door retaining rod and how you need the AR-10(T) version if you have a FF handguard?

It'd also be nice to see info about the uppers with forward assist collected here.


As for the ejection port retaining rod...I believe the AR10(T) upper receiver version rod, which is sligtly longer, is only needed with the Armalite FF handguard. I recently installed a PRI GEN 3 FF handguard forend and the AR-10(T) rod was too long by about an 1/8". Thinking the rod was needed for all FF forends was the reason I bought it to begin with. What began to happen was the barrel nut was catching and beginning to bend the rod as it got towards the end of the threads. I had to cut, smooth and refinish the rod end in order to continue the torqueing process without completely destroying the rod in the process, or at least making an ugly bend out of it. Thank god I caught it just as it started to flex, or bend upwards. I was able to straighten it back out in my vise and it functions and looks like nothing happenned. I would like some formal clarity from Armalite on this part myself for future projects...
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Posted: 3/27/2010 12:46:25 PM
Hey Taylor,,,,,I would like to thank you for making this thread...it has helped alot of AR-10...(ArmaLite) owners out on my other forums....
One not though, I had a chance to talk with those people at KAC....on an issue with a SR-25...according to them, the SR-25 and the M-110 do NOT use the standard M-16 bolt catch...at least that is what THEY SAID...What a bunch of Snobs....
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Posted: 3/27/2010 1:39:00 PM
Originally Posted By SASS:
Hey Taylor,,,,,I would like to thank you for making this thread...it has helped alot of AR-10...(ArmaLite) owners out on my other forums....
One not though, I had a chance to talk with those people at KAC....on an issue with a SR-25...according to them, the SR-25 and the M-110 do NOT use the standard M-16 bolt catch...at least that is what THEY SAID...What a bunch of Snobs....
SASS


I can confirm that is true. Also LMT's 308 MRP uses the same bolt catch as KAC.
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