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Posted: 10/17/2016 3:34:38 PM EDT
Hi Everyone,
I shot my first AR-15 about a month ago and fell in love, but I have a problem. I am a 110# 5'-4" Lady, and the ARs I held were all far too heavy for me. Soooo... I am going to build my own lightweight one!!! Has anyone built one for a lady my size? Anyone have some advice on parts? Any guidance or info is appreciated, thank you in advance! |
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First link has MagPul handguard, can be had with normal round handguard.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-melonite-pencil-profile-moe-freedom-upper-w-out-bcg-or-ch.html http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies.html?manufacturer=8&upper_barrel_profile=1384 |
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Nobody else has any input? I'm trying to build an AR here, not slap together an upper & lower!
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How deep do you want to get into it, there are a lot of options for shorter stocks and such, the receivers are all going to be the same size, but do you want to install your own barrels, or buy complete uppers.
Let us know how deep you want to get into this and I am sure some of us will be more than happy to help you out. |
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My daughter is in your weight class, and she does just fine with a Colt 6920 - with magpul furniture.
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I want to put together every component myself! Install the barrel, gas block, trigger, etc.. I have a vice in the garage with a set of tools I got off midway. I've been reading and reading and reading! I need help selecting pieces though and would like all the input ya'll can give! I want to make good informed decision and not expensive mistakes!
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faxon light weight barrel and a light short handguard will save some weight. Her is my wifes-she could have saved a little weight with a smaller handguard but the Primary Arms one was on sale <a href="http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/dempsy1/media/Gun%20swap/20150819_184516.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h361/dempsy1/Gun%20swap/20150819_184516.jpg</a> View Quote That is beautiful! |
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As a general setup I would go with:
Forged Upper/Lower Quality LPK Full Auto Rated BCG 16" midlength gas system Lightweight barrel ~12" mlok or keymod handguard (I like ~12" handguards to cover my low profile gas block on midlength gas port) A2 Flashhider Magpul MOE grip and stock Recommendations for fulfilling this build: Magpul MOE Lower Build Kit from palmetto state armory for about $115 or $120. This includes lower parts kit and receiver extension with stock and pistol grip. Any forged upper/lower stripped receivers will do. Full auto rated BCG from palmetto state or AIM for $80-90 Charging handle for $15-20. Depends where you purchase, and also depends if you want to upgrade this. If you know this is a part you want to change from a regular CH, then I would do it to start. Barrel from Faxon or Ballistic Advantage are good options, you can sometimes get them with the gas block with it. Rail system is all preference so you just have to do looking at ALG, Geissele, or many other manufacturers. Prices vary dramatically from one company to another and handguards can get expensive. I think you can build the rifle you are wanting for $700 or so if you don't end up upgrading trigger, charging handle, safety, and other misc parts. Definitely have to watch for daily deals and weekend deals for palmetto state, that's how to get good prices on everything. |
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Nice thread.
Good luck with your AR project.
Please post pics of you and your build. For solely educational purposes only. LOL |
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Here's a description of how I did it. Going light isn't cheap, but the parts are readily available.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/654490_I_wanna_lose_weight.html ETA: There are also dedicated light-weight and ultra-light-weight threads. Here's a related one: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/638524_Lightweight_Parts_List_with_WEIGHTS__AR_15_.html |
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Dated a gal in your weight range and built a rifle for her at the time. Hers was a 22 but if you use a lightweight carrier from aim and a lightweight barrel, and something like a fortis handguard or alg defense, you should be golden.
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before.
9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. |
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Hi Everyone, I shot my first AR-15 about a month ago and fell in love, but I have a problem. I am a 110# 5'-4" Lady, and the ARs I held were all far too heavy for me. Soooo... I am going to build my own lightweight one!!! Has anyone built one for a lady my size? Anyone have some advice on parts? Any guidance or info is appreciated, thank you in advance! View Quote - Pencil barrel, Faxon is the leader here, the ideal one is 16" long with threaded muzzle and mid-length gas port - Handguard, I like Bravo Company's KMR10 model with a titanium barrel nut, rather expensive but very well made and light as a feather - Bolt carrier, I like the lightweight models made by Rubber City Armory, the titanium one being the lightest - Receiver extension and buttstock, the ideal part is the combination of these two parts into one made with carbon fiber composite from Smoke Composites - Buffer and spring, check out the 1 oz buffer and special reduced strength spring from Taccom - Grip, I like the K2 models from Magpul, very light and comfortable too Note that with the lightweight reciprocating parts, you will need to have adjustable gas, either via an adjustable gas block, or an adjustable gas key. Rubber City sells lightweight bolt/carrier assemblies with adjustable gas key already installed. Easy to adjust once for your favorite ammo, then it stays put. good luck - CW |
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A pleasure to be mentioned in such high esteem. Let us know if we can help!
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My wife has a build going. Specs that she has settlrd on so far are anderson upper, lower and lower parts kit. Dust cover from tanias tactical thats in muddy girl camo. Hogue beavertail grip and collapsable stock in purple. Alg defense has a few rails in different colors hers will be purple to match the other purple parts. Purple cerakoted charging handle and foreward assist from republic firearms. Pencil or gunner mid length barrel from faxon. Aim nitrided bolt carrier group, spikes st2 buffer dammage industries chrome silicon buffer spring. Alg act trigger. Muddy girl wraps on some pmags.i would post pics of what she has so far but cant seem to get pics on here. A lot of weight saving can be lighter barrel and handguard. You should use mid length gas system and at least an h buffer and full auto carrelier to help with reduced felt recooil.
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Red: I say go for it, my lightweight AR weighs 4 lbs 7 oz with iron sights and no magazine. A lightweight AR is a joy to hold, regardless of your own size. The link in one of the notes above lists many of the candidate lightweight parts. I consider the following the key parts to focus on: - Pencil barrel, Faxon is the leader here, the ideal one is 16" long with threaded muzzle and mid-length gas port - Handguard, I like Bravo Company's KMR10 model with a titanium barrel nut, rather expensive but very well made and light as a feather - Bolt carrier, I like the lightweight models made by Rubber City Armory, the titanium one being the lightest - Receiver extension and buttstock, the ideal part is the combination of these two parts into one made with carbon fiber composite from Smoke Composites - Buffer and spring, check out the 1 oz buffer and special reduced strength spring from Taccom - Grip, I like the K2 models from Magpul, very light and comfortable too Note that with the lightweight reciprocating parts, you will need to have adjustable gas, either via an adjustable gas block, or an adjustable gas key. Rubber City sells lightweight bolt/carrier assemblies with adjustable gas key already installed. Easy to adjust once for your favorite ammo, then it stays put. good luck - CW View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hi Everyone, I shot my first AR-15 about a month ago and fell in love, but I have a problem. I am a 110# 5'-4" Lady, and the ARs I held were all far too heavy for me. Soooo... I am going to build my own lightweight one!!! Has anyone built one for a lady my size? Anyone have some advice on parts? Any guidance or info is appreciated, thank you in advance! - Pencil barrel, Faxon is the leader here, the ideal one is 16" long with threaded muzzle and mid-length gas port - Handguard, I like Bravo Company's KMR10 model with a titanium barrel nut, rather expensive but very well made and light as a feather - Bolt carrier, I like the lightweight models made by Rubber City Armory, the titanium one being the lightest - Receiver extension and buttstock, the ideal part is the combination of these two parts into one made with carbon fiber composite from Smoke Composites - Buffer and spring, check out the 1 oz buffer and special reduced strength spring from Taccom - Grip, I like the K2 models from Magpul, very light and comfortable too Note that with the lightweight reciprocating parts, you will need to have adjustable gas, either via an adjustable gas block, or an adjustable gas key. Rubber City sells lightweight bolt/carrier assemblies with adjustable gas key already installed. Easy to adjust once for your favorite ammo, then it stays put. good luck - CW Thank you so much, I have been looking at the Rubber City Armory Titanium complete BCG w/adj. gas key as a really good option. I also am interested in the 14.5" Gunner Barrel from Faxon for its lightweight but still seems pretty rugged. I'm definitely going to look into the other parts you listed! |
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You might have to tinker a bit if you lighten the bolt carrier and go adjustable gas block. Sometimes this can lead to reliability issues. Not always but its possible. Just saying
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You might have to tinker a bit if you lighten the bolt carrier and go adjustable gas block. Sometimes this can lead to reliability issues. Not always but its possible. Just saying View Quote Thank you! I can use every bit of help I can get. Why does everyone seem to go for the mid-length gas system on competition ARs? |
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get the parts you want and put an adjustable buttstock on it
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Mid length gas seems to soften/smooth out perceived recoil, this would be good especially if you are trying to get this rifle as light as you can. It also tends not to overgas the action and not be as hard on the internals so they say.
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This is the wife's SBR. You could do something similar with a 16" Light Weight setup. Can't say enough good things about the products from ... Faxon & ALG. Great quality for the money. <a href="http://imgur.com/5Ip2tWD" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/5Ip2tWD.jpg</a> And.... here with her 300BLK upper on. KAK is another company you may want to look into. I've been more than pleased with their products. <a href="http://imgur.com/PcF4wYR" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/PcF4wYR.jpg</a> View Quote Does the 16" setup have one of Faxon's headspaced bolt/barrel sets? If so what do you think? |
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Does the 16" setup have one of Faxon's headspaced bolt/barrel sets? If so what do you think? View Quote The first pic does have a Faxon barrel, gas block, & their complete Bolt Carrier Group. Amazing fit and finish! Preformed flawlessly at the range this weekend. putting together a 3-gun rifle for my wife now..... I'll be using Faxon on that rifle. |
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The first pic does have a Faxon barrel, gas block, & their complete Bolt Carrier Group. Amazing fit and finish! Preformed flawlessly at the range this weekend. putting together a 3-gun rifle for my wife now..... I'll be using Faxon on that rifle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Does the 16" setup have one of Faxon's headspaced bolt/barrel sets? If so what do you think? The first pic does have a Faxon barrel, gas block, & their complete Bolt Carrier Group. Amazing fit and finish! Preformed flawlessly at the range this weekend. putting together a 3-gun rifle for my wife now..... I'll be using Faxon on that rifle. What are your plans for the 3-gun rifle? |
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What are your plans for the 3-gun rifle? View Quote Only because I have a lot of parts already from other rifles. I would really only be purchasing a few small parts, a barrel, & a BCG. - 2A Armament upper & Lower receivers - 2A Armanent 15" M-Lok hand guard - JP trigger - Magpul STR stock - Hogue grip - Faxon 16" Gunner Barrel - Adjustable Gas Block (SLR?) - Faxon Light Weight BCG - JP Silent Captured Spring - Vortex Strike Eagle - Aero Light Weight SPR scope mount |
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Only because I have a lot of parts already from other rifles. I would really only be purchasing a few small parts, a barrel, & a BCG. - 2A Armament upper & Lower receivers - 2A Armanent 15" M-Lok hand guard - JP trigger - Magpul STR stock - Hogue grip - Faxon 16" Gunner Barrel - Adjustable Gas Block (SLR?) - Faxon Light Weight BCG - JP Silent Captured Spring - Vortex Strike Eagle - Aero Light Weight SPR scope mount View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
What are your plans for the 3-gun rifle? Only because I have a lot of parts already from other rifles. I would really only be purchasing a few small parts, a barrel, & a BCG. - 2A Armament upper & Lower receivers - 2A Armanent 15" M-Lok hand guard - JP trigger - Magpul STR stock - Hogue grip - Faxon 16" Gunner Barrel - Adjustable Gas Block (SLR?) - Faxon Light Weight BCG - JP Silent Captured Spring - Vortex Strike Eagle - Aero Light Weight SPR scope mount I will be receiving one of RCA's UL Titanium complete BCGs w/Adj. Gas Key soon and I will post pictures and review if your interested. I'm choosing to go with the Faxon Gunner too, just the 14.5" variant! Thinking about their head spaced bolt option too? Not sure if it's necessary though? |
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Quoted: I will be receiving one of RCA's UL Titanium complete BCGs w/Adj. Gas Key soon and I will post pictures and review if your interested.
I'm choosing to go with the Faxon Gunner too, just the 14.5" variant! Thinking about their head spaced bolt option too? Not sure if it's necessary though? View Quote Most of us don't check headspace on ARs. Cheap insurance, however. |
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. View Quote this |
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. View Quote Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? |
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Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? I strongly recommend the 14.5" Faxon GUNNER. I purchased mine from AIM Surplus because it came with the added bonus of a pinned gas block. I paired it with an AIM Nitride V2 BCG. I did check headspace with both a Colt Field Gage and a Forster Min Gage. Checked out just fine. ADCO Firearms did my Pin and Weld. Highly Recommend them! The handling and weight savings over my 16 inch carbines is pure bliss. I was surprised at how much an inch and a half makes. Wow! Good luck with your build! |
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I strongly recommend the 14.5" Faxon GUNNER. I purchased mine from AIM Surplus because it came with the added bonus of a pinned gas block. I paired it with an AIM Nitride V2 BCG. I did check headspace with both a Colt Field Gage and a Forster Min Gage. Checked out just fine. ADCO Firearms did my Pin and Weld. Highly Recommend them! The handling and weight savings over my 16 inch carbines is pure bliss. I was surprised at how much an inch and a half makes. Wow! Good luck with your build! http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o525/nelsd99/AR15/14%205%20Faxon/IMG_20160916_121250981.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? I strongly recommend the 14.5" Faxon GUNNER. I purchased mine from AIM Surplus because it came with the added bonus of a pinned gas block. I paired it with an AIM Nitride V2 BCG. I did check headspace with both a Colt Field Gage and a Forster Min Gage. Checked out just fine. ADCO Firearms did my Pin and Weld. Highly Recommend them! The handling and weight savings over my 16 inch carbines is pure bliss. I was surprised at how much an inch and a half makes. Wow! Good luck with your build! http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o525/nelsd99/AR15/14%205%20Faxon/IMG_20160916_121250981.jpg Awesome! The 1.20 Lb weight with the meat of the barrel being to the rear and pencil profile at the front sounds like it would balance the rifle well. |
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I want to put together every component myself! Install the barrel, gas block, trigger, etc.. I have a vice in the garage with a set of tools I got off midway. I've been reading and reading and reading! I need help selecting pieces though and would like all the input ya'll can give! I want to make good informed decision and not expensive mistakes! View Quote I like your style! |
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Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? Take a look at the Ballistic Advantage Hanson 14.5"...includes a pinned gas block. You would need to have the flash hider pinned & welded unless you want to do the SBR paperwork, so I'd recommend a VooDoo Manimal flash hider wich will allow the .75" gas block to slide over it after its been welded. More Manimal info here. |
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Thanks, backbencher. Some nice rifles there, gun porn for the ultralight cognoscenti. Its an ongoing General Discussion picture thread (53 pages) for anything under 6 pounds. However, there is quite a bit of difference between a 6 pounder without any sights and a sub-5 pounder with a scope mounted like yours.
I posted a couple pics of my scoped 5-pounder, in 6.8 SPC, on page 53: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/625051_ULTRA_light_weight_picture_thread____the_under_6_crowd_.html&page=53 |
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Take a look at the Ballistic Advantage Hanson 14.5"...includes a pinned gas block. You would need to have the flash hider pinned & welded unless you want to do the SBR paperwork, so I'd recommend a VooDoo Manimal flash hider wich will allow the .75" gas block to slide over it after its been welded. More Manimal info here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? Take a look at the Ballistic Advantage Hanson 14.5"...includes a pinned gas block. You would need to have the flash hider pinned & welded unless you want to do the SBR paperwork, so I'd recommend a VooDoo Manimal flash hider wich will allow the .75" gas block to slide over it after its been welded. More Manimal info here. Alittle heavier on the price than the Faxon option though... |
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I want to put together every component myself! Install the barrel, gas block, trigger, etc.. I have a vice in the garage with a set of tools I got off midway. I've been reading and reading and reading! I need help selecting pieces though and would like all the input ya'll can give! I want to make good informed decision and not expensive mistakes! I like your style! Thanks! |
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Alittle heavier on the price than the Faxon option though... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? Take a look at the Ballistic Advantage Hanson 14.5"...includes a pinned gas block. You would need to have the flash hider pinned & welded unless you want to do the SBR paperwork, so I'd recommend a VooDoo Manimal flash hider wich will allow the .75" gas block to slide over it after its been welded. More Manimal info here. Alittle heavier on the price than the Faxon option though... Yes, just a touch heavier, but a better profile IMHO, and at that price includes a pinned gas block too. Using a barrel with a .75" gas block and the Manimal allows you to alter the configuration as you desire without the need to grind off the welded flash hider and weld another on. |
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Yes, just a touch heavier, but a better profile IMHO, and at that price includes a pinned gas block too. Using a barrel with a .75" gas block and the Manimal allows you to alter the configuration as you desire without the need to grind off the welded flash hider and weld another on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, you're a few inches taller than my wife, so I've been down this road before. 9 times out of 10, when a smaller person says that a gun is too heavy, it's really too long. Collapse the stock as far as it will go, use a short, pencil-weight barrel(16", or even 14.5 w/pinned flash hider) Don't do heavy handguards, plain plastic ones are great. Thank you! I'm looking at the Faxon 14.5" gunner barrel currently, it seems to be more rugged yet still lighter than the 16" pencil barrels out there.?? Take a look at the Ballistic Advantage Hanson 14.5"...includes a pinned gas block. You would need to have the flash hider pinned & welded unless you want to do the SBR paperwork, so I'd recommend a VooDoo Manimal flash hider wich will allow the .75" gas block to slide over it after its been welded. More Manimal info here. Alittle heavier on the price than the Faxon option though... Yes, just a touch heavier, but a better profile IMHO, and at that price includes a pinned gas block too. Using a barrel with a .75" gas block and the Manimal allows you to alter the configuration as you desire without the need to grind off the welded flash hider and weld another on. Ok, I see what your saying. Do you have to weld it on or just pin it? I have seen people on here say different things. |
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Look at F-1 Firearms for some light build components. My wife (5'3") loved running their rifles in full auto at the Texas Firearms Festival last Friday. Kind of expensive but if you have the funds their "chassis" setup could be a great option.
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Ok, I see what your saying. Do you have to weld it on or just pin it? I have seen people on here say different things. View Quote Both Seriously though a small hole is drilled through the side of the muzzle device into the barrel threads. Then a small pin is inserted into the hole to keep the muzzle device from being rotated (removed). A small weld is placed over the hole to retain the pin. This is "permanent" as it takes a grinder to remove the weld to access the pin. ETA: This is the typical professional method. There are other ways but this is what higher quality shops do. |
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Both Seriously though a small hole is drilled through the side of the muzzle device into the barrel threads. Then a small pin is inserted into the hole to keep the muzzle device from being rotated (removed). A small weld is placed over the hole to retain the pin. This is "permanent" as it takes a grinder to remove the weld to access the pin. ETA: This is the typical professional method. There are other ways but this is what higher quality shops do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ok, I see what your saying. Do you have to weld it on or just pin it? I have seen people on here say different things. Both Seriously though a small hole is drilled through the side of the muzzle device into the barrel threads. Then a small pin is inserted into the hole to keep the muzzle device from being rotated (removed). A small weld is placed over the hole to retain the pin. This is "permanent" as it takes a grinder to remove the weld to access the pin. ETA: This is the typical professional method. There are other ways but this is what higher quality shops do. Thank you! Good to know. |
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Sounds like you want to build your own, there is a lot of great info in this thread. I assembled one similar to what I think you may want. The upper is built on an Anderson receiver, VooDoo 14.5 pinned barrel, Manimal FH, and a Nikon fixed power scope. The lower is a Crusader, with a MFT stock, short and not too heavy. 6.5 LBS, take the scope off its 5.6 pounds. This build was not really built with the intent of a "lightweight" outcome, to go that route can get expensive. What I ended up with is a lighter than normal build that turned out pretty good in my opinion, for a reasonable price. All assembled in my garage. It handles well. Good luck and keep us posted. http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/west467/Crusader.jpg View Quote A very nice looking rifle! I will definitely keep y'all posted as progress is made. I also plan on putting my progress on my YouTube channel. |
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any respectable rifle needs one of these...
https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/1250/ |
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