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Posted: 8/21/2014 10:56:35 AM EDT
I have 2 SBR builds that I will be doing uppers for soon (my first upper builds).  One is a conventional free float upper - the other is an Aero Arms Monolithic upper.  I am under the impression that a barrel clamp is the preferred method to hold the upper while torquing on these.  That said that is pretty impossible with an SBR and a Monolithic upper.  What is the next best solution.  I suspect that the gas block and flash hider could be installed with a barrel clamp before installing the barrel - I am currently going to be using a thread on suppressor until this gun gets its dedicated suppressor (with a trifecta attachment).





What is the general sequence of installation (barrel nut, flash hider, gas block) and how does that need to be changed with a monolithic upper (with essentially -0- fully exposed barrel (bottom half is exposed) and and a covered gas block).





The lower castle nut is also not up to torque yet - assume best method is to install it on a stripped lower held in a clam-shell block, with the alternative of using a magwell block.  That said - saw plenty of discussion about 40 ft/lbs being somewhat excessive.  Feedback on this would also be appreciated (second lower should be in the mail today).





Should either of these threads be greased?

 
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 6:43:30 PM EDT
[#1]
this and only this geissele reaction rod nothing else is needed for holding anything when building a upper ... and its always barrel nut then gas block then flash hider ... use a slide on gas block and install the tube first to the block then slide it on as one unit and since the bottom is open a set screw block or bottom clamp one should be used
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 9:30:06 AM EDT
[#2]
forgot yes you should grease the threads of the barrel nut with areoshell and if you are going to be taking the flash hider or can off a lot you might put some but many don't .... this is the only place I have found that sells areoshell in small amounts and isn't a arm and a leg areoshell
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 10:43:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:

Should either of these threads be greased?  
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I ended up buying from this guy. Quick shipping too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AeroShell-Grease-33MS-Synthetic-with-Moly-for-Extreme-High-Temp-Pressure
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 3:28:39 PM EDT
[#4]
Used the ebay grease.  Good price and should work as needed.  Went with a Brownell style tool (from LGS) rather than the Geissele one, as it was $40.  Good news is it worked for one of the 2 builds, bad new is sheared the barrel pin on the other.





I will keep the tool for muzzle brakes - but probably not use it often to mount barrels since now I have to deal with a damaged barrel.  Please insert list of curse words here.  FWIW I read other posts where people had similar issues with barrels from that manufacturer (they used the Geissel tool and Giessel made it right for them).  I highly suspect the pin was too soft.  Does not really matter though - if I would have clamped the upper, no stress would have been on the pin.  It sheared at 60lbs, which is what I had to do to get the index on the front free float tube correct.



I used punches to insert the gas tube pin and gas block pin.



At the end of the day, not really enjoying assembling uppers.  Inserting those pins has to be a job more suited to a tool.

Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:47:01 PM EDT
[#5]
I just went through just about all of Aero's site and didn't find anything about how THEY suggest assembling their monolithic uppers.  Did anything instructional come with the upper, like a specific torque to tighten the barrel nut to?  I would think that they'd provide that sort of information with their products.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 5:55:18 PM EDT
[#6]
I guess I will fill in this additional info.  I was building an Aero Monolithic and a standard free float.  I had no problems with the Aero because their nut does not need to be indexed.  I torqued a bit light - but I think it will be enough.  I might check it after a few rounds.  



The problem was a standard upper with a freefloat tube.  It indexed poorly, tried again, then gave up and tightened it 10lbs at a time to get it indexed (but keeping under the spec max).  When it was niced and indexed I saw the gas port hole was about at 1pm, and stripped it down knowing exactly what happened.  There is also some damage to the upper - but I think it is not critical (threads got banged up near the pin hole)
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