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BushyMaster
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Posted: 12/31/2011 5:22:28 PM
[Last Edit: 12/31/2011 7:49:59 PM by BushyMaster]
I was curious about markings on my upper, so did some research.
This is what i found. I didnt know if anyone else could use it or not.




Forging marks > makers.

A (splintered) = Anchor Harvey Aluminum

AF = Alcoa Forge

C AF = Colt Alco Forge

C MB = Colt / Mueller Brass

Cardinal (stylized) = Cardinal Forge

CH = Colt Harvey Aluminum

CK = Colt / Kaiser Aluminum

Circle/Crooshairs w/"AR" = ArmaLite

CM = Colt / Martin Marietta

D (stylized) = Diemaco

DK = Diemaco / Kaiser Aluminum

E = Emco

EK = EMCO/Kaiser

E MB = EMCO/Mueller Brass

F keyhole = FNMI / Cerro Forge

FA = FNMI / Anchor Harvey

FK = FNMI / Kaiser Aluminum

FM = FN/Martin Marietta

FMB = FNMI / Mueller Brass

Keyhole = Cerro Forge

L = Lewis Machine & Tool

LK = LAR / Kaiser Aluminum

LM = LAR / Martin Marietta

M (under diamond) = Mueller Industries

PA = Capco / Anchor Harvey

PM = Capco / Martin Marietta



link to sight i found info on http://www.armyparatrooper.org/dropzone/showthread.php/20426-Forging-marks-on-the-AR15-M16-M4-Upper-Receiver
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Posted: 12/31/2011 5:42:34 PM
You forgot...

JNK=JUNK

...like the one I bought at the Phoenix SAR show last month
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Posted: 12/31/2011 9:32:01 PM
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Square box = Brass Aluminum Forgings Inc. ( found on Colt/Stag/CMT upper flatops and removable carry handles)....Mike. see correction below.
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Posted: 12/31/2011 10:04:44 PM
Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises, actually. It is often mentioned only with the acronym of their name, BAFE, and losing the "enterprises" would make the acronym not work... Nice company in Ferndale, Michigan.
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Posted: 12/31/2011 11:55:04 PM





This doesn't seem to fit any of the above.
These are from a Barrett upper. Best photos I could get from a not very good camera.
If I had to describe it, I'd call it a foot stepping on a piece of bread.

Any clues?
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Posted: 1/1/2012 1:19:16 AM
A (splintered) = Anchor Harvey Aluminum


Cool to know. I bought a used A1 upper a few months back with no idea where it was from. Only that it was used, and still had the rear sight.
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Posted: 1/1/2012 1:27:16 AM
Originally Posted By sergtjim:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg216/sergtjim/100_1434.jpg


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg216/sergtjim/100_1438.jpg

This doesn't seem to fit any of the above.
These are from a Barrett upper. Best photos I could get from a not very good camera.
If I had to describe it, I'd call it a foot stepping on a piece of bread.

Any clues?


That's a Cardinal Forge.
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Posted: 1/1/2012 7:26:36 AM
Originally Posted By Black-Tiger:
That's a Cardinal Forge.


Thanks for the answer. I never would have figured that one out.

The folks at Cardinal may think it's a stylized bird's head, but to me it still looks like a foot stepping on a piece of bread.
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Posted: 1/1/2012 1:36:41 PM
Originally Posted By GHPorter:
Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises, actually. It is often mentioned only with the acronym of their name, BAFE, and losing the "enterprises" would make the acronym not work... Nice company in Ferndale, Michigan.


Opps: I thought something was wrong. I added the Inc. as I couldn't remember Enterprises. Thanks for the correct.....Mike
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Posted: 1/28/2012 7:15:56 PM
Originally Posted By TinMan2:
Square box = Brass Aluminum Forgings Inc. ( found on Colt/Stag/CMT upper flatops and removable carry handles)....Mike. see correction below.



I have one Delton upper with this forge mark. Who would have ever thought my Delton and Colt have so much in common.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:43:31 PM
Originally Posted By wagonwheel1:
Originally Posted By TinMan2:
Square box = Brass Aluminum Forgings Inc. ( found on Colt/Stag/CMT upper flatops and removable carry handles)....Mike. see correction below.


I have one Delton upper with this forge mark. Who would have ever thought my Delton and Colt have so much in common.


Oh, and my new RRA too! Who'da thunk it????



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Posted: 1/29/2012 9:09:13 AM
I know most board members hate Blackthorne, but they use the uppers with the square box forge marks=Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises, as well. First hand experience with photos if I have to.
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Posted: 1/29/2012 10:27:02 AM
Keep in mind regardless of the forge mark, the company buying and reselling them is in charge of finishing machining and tolerance spec. So just because Blackthorne uses an upper with a quality forging doesn't mean they didn't do something to fuck it up after the fact.

Good example of this is RRA is known for super super tight tolerances, to the point of incompatibility with other companies specs sometimes.

Forge code only tells you where it came from in the beginning.
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Posted: 1/29/2012 10:54:50 AM
Originally Posted By durabo:
Keep in mind regardless of the forge mark, the company buying and reselling them is in charge of finishing machining and tolerance spec. So just because Blackthorne uses an upper with a quality forging doesn't mean they didn't do something to fuck it up after the fact.

Good example of this is RRA is known for super super tight tolerances, to the point of incompatibility with other companies specs sometimes.

Forge code only tells you where it came from in the beginning.


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Posted: 1/29/2012 1:34:06 PM
Party pooper. lol
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Posted: 1/29/2012 4:52:42 PM


Mueller Brass?
Stamp collector.