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Link Posted: 12/5/2010 4:53:31 PM EDT
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On a side note, anybody remember those MP5K style forward grips that mount on a rail?  I know i've seen them, just can't find exactly the kind i'm thinking of at the moment...




Second picture down has the forward grip you seek!!



HK grip



Sweet.  I checked their site, but it's not listed.  I sent an email asking where i might find it.



 


There is a member here that has been said to make the above style grip.  I read about it in the SBR picture threads, I think.  





Troy has designed a very short standard pistol grip.  One could also just take a saw to a regular grip to shorten it.  

http://troyind.com/%20/new-products/troy-battleaxe-cqb-grip



 
Link Posted: 12/5/2010 4:54:02 PM EDT
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Tag, btw.



 
Link Posted: 12/5/2010 7:15:30 PM EDT
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Saweeeet project! Why not use the Magpul AFG? It's compact, comfortable, and has a forward hand stop already built in.


I've found the AFG to only really work with the "firehose" grip, way out front with your thumb over the top.  I tried one on my RFB, and it was, well, awkward...



 
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 8:39:00 AM EDT
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Got a response on the MP5K-style Kriss grip.



They don't make them anymore and don't plan to.  They were a limited run for the pre-production Kriss...
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 8:41:33 AM EDT
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Got a response on the MP5K-style Kriss grip.

They don't make them anymore and don't plan to.  They were a limited run for the pre-production Kriss...


That sucks. You could pair of a stubby VFG and a handstop. I could swear I've seen stubby VFGs taht are similar in profile to the K grip.
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 5:42:09 PM EDT
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How about the grip on THIS page?
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 8:14:38 PM EDT
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How about the grip on THIS page?


Thats about like the actual MP5K grip and mounts on the barrel.  I'm looking for a rail mounted version.



This really isn't a big deal, but it'll eventually come up



 
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 8:45:19 PM EDT
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The closest grip that I can find that is similar, integrated hand-stop, to the MP5K grip is this one from FAB Defense.
FGG-S
Tactical Folding Foregrip
http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-foregrips/id-5/tactical-folding-foregrip.html

Other ideas are VFG's that have light mounts that function as a hand-stops or using a stubby grip, magpul mvg etc., and a handstop, KAC or Midwest Industries etc, as some have suggested.
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 9:38:13 PM EDT
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How about the grip on THIS page?


Thats about like the actual MP5K grip and mounts on the barrel.  I'm looking for a rail mounted version.



This really isn't a big deal, but it'll eventually come up

 
You're making a PDR, just make your own grip.





 
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 9:43:54 PM EDT
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How about the grip on THIS page?


Thats about like the actual MP5K grip and mounts on the barrel.  I'm looking for a rail mounted version.



This really isn't a big deal, but it'll eventually come up

 
You're making a PDR, just make your own grip.



 


I know, i know... Just more material to buy





 
Link Posted: 12/6/2010 10:46:45 PM EDT
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How about the grip on THIS page?

Thats about like the actual MP5K grip and mounts on the barrel.  I'm looking for a rail mounted version.

This really isn't a big deal, but it'll eventually come up
 
You're making a PDR, just make your own grip.

 


+1.....enough with the grip already
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 5:12:50 PM EDT
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How about the grip on THIS page?


Thats about like the actual MP5K grip and mounts on the barrel.  I'm looking for a rail mounted version.



This really isn't a big deal, but it'll eventually come up

 
You're making a PDR, just make your own grip.



 




+1.....enough with the grip already


FOUND IT!  I looked through 50 pages of the SBR picture threads, but I figured it out.  



"bullet-cooker" is the name of the ARFCOM member that modifies the original version to fit a rail.  



http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=22&t=195288&page=53



It's about 2/3 of the way down in a post by scottMO.  He has 2.



 
Link Posted: 12/9/2010 9:11:20 PM EDT
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FOUND IT!

 


Awesome, i just IM'd him.



I KNEW i had seen them somewhere on here before, besides the KRISS and PDR concept photos....



Thanks.



 
Link Posted: 12/21/2010 11:17:37 PM EDT
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Bump this thread.  Where's RDTCU?

Buhler, Buhler.  
Link Posted: 12/22/2010 8:06:46 AM EDT
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Bump this thread.  Where's RDTCU?



Buhler, Buhler.  


Working 6 days a week for now, moving more of my junk, and looking for a friend's lost dog



Batteries in the collars for the underground fence died in the cold and they got out.

The male drug himself home after being hit by a car (he'll be ok) but the female is still missing since Sunday...







 
Link Posted: 12/27/2010 2:32:02 AM EDT
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Bump this thread.  Where's RDTCU?

Buhler, Buhler.  

Working 6 days a week for now, moving more of my junk, and looking for a friend's lost dog

Batteries in the collars for the underground fence died in the cold and they got out.
The male drug himself home after being hit by a car (he'll be ok) but the female is still missing since Sunday...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1163.snc4/150576_804028174058_12718567_43498928_700737_n.jpg
 


Dude - sorry.  

Some times it's all about me.  Hope you found your other dog.

DT
Link Posted: 1/26/2011 6:04:31 PM EDT
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Update?  Pics?
Link Posted: 1/26/2011 6:07:13 PM EDT
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Update?  Pics?


Nothing much to speak of, my free time comes in spurts



Don't worry though, I won't let this die...



 
Link Posted: 2/21/2011 3:22:34 PM EDT
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Ordered some more material today.



I'll hopefully be roughing out the aluminum lower "skeleton" in the next couple weeks...
Link Posted: 2/28/2011 5:01:54 PM EDT
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I had a thought for how you can run a trigger. You could put basically a shortened 1911 trigger group into the grip. Instead of having a full length hammer to strike the firing pin, you trim it down so it fits under the barrel, and then run a connecting rod to a full sized hammer behind the BCG. You should be able to do away with a second sear system, and you should be able to find OTS parts that could be modified to suit the purpose. If you are concerned with trying to make FA versions, Star made FA 1911s that you could pattern your system off of.

That and it puts a touch of JMB into the mix
Link Posted: 3/1/2011 8:01:02 AM EDT
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I just ordered a biiig chunk of Nylatron, should be able to get two lowers out of it



 
Link Posted: 3/6/2011 1:09:39 AM EDT
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I just ordered a biiig chunk of Nylatron, should be able to get two lowers out of it
 


Nice!  Post pics even if it's just of a chunk of plastic
Link Posted: 3/6/2011 9:30:57 AM EDT
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I just ordered a biiig chunk of Nylatron, should be able to get two lowers out of it
 


Did you get the one that is gray/black swirl color? That is the only nylatron I have seen......just curious.
Link Posted: 3/6/2011 9:56:35 AM EDT
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I just ordered a biiig chunk of Nylatron, should be able to get two lowers out of it

 




Did you get the one that is gray/black swirl color? That is the only nylatron I have seen......just curious.


it's supposedly a solid gray/black, i saw the stuff you were talking about though.

 
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:37:17 PM EDT
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Nylatron is here, might post a pic tonight.

Just imagine a 1.5" x 24" x 11" piece of black plastic...  not too exciting yet
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:38:27 PM EDT
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Nylatron is here, might post a pic tonight.

Just imagine a 1.5" x 24" x 11" piece of black plastic...  not too exciting yet


I don't want to imagine the multi-digit price tag on that hunk of plastic.

 



If you need any 6061, there's a guy on ebay with good deals and fast shipping. I've gotten a couple of piles from him lately. Good stuff.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:42:20 PM EDT
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Nylatron is here, might post a pic tonight.

Just imagine a 1.5" x 24" x 11" piece of black plastic...  not too exciting yet


I don't want to imagine the multi-digit price tag on that hunk of plastic.  



If you need any 6061, there's a guy on ebay with good deals and fast shipping. I've gotten a couple of piles from him lately. Good stuff.


Where do you think I got this? I wasn't about to drop $300 on it on McMaster



 
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:53:02 PM EDT
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Nylatron is here, might post a pic tonight.

Just imagine a 1.5" x 24" x 11" piece of black plastic...  not too exciting yet


I don't want to imagine the multi-digit price tag on that hunk of plastic.  



If you need any 6061, there's a guy on ebay with good deals and fast shipping. I've gotten a couple of piles from him lately. Good stuff.


Where do you think I got this? I wasn't about to drop $300 on it on McMaster

 


McMaster can do unspeakable things to unmentionable parts of my anatomy. They want 3 times as much for 6061 as I can get it at Fastenal, and Fastenal is high compared to the online small cut shops.

 
Link Posted: 3/14/2011 7:56:47 AM EDT
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At least it's something resembling progress
Since I've got enough for two lowers, I'm going to rough one out on the manual mill for proof of concept and see if any tweaking needs to be done afterwards, then have the final lower CNC'd here at work in some downtime...



The green tube beside the mill has some aluminum barstock in it.



Please ignore the mess...






 
Link Posted: 3/14/2011 11:41:06 PM EDT
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made a bit of a mess today






Link Posted: 3/14/2011 11:47:53 PM EDT
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I'm very much looking forward to your progress!
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 12:55:03 AM EDT
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Let me preface... I know nothing of milling/machining.

Would it be easier to mill out the insides of the lower accurately for the magazine well, and whatever other relief cuts for action parts and the upper, holes for the trigger and FCG etc. when the polymer block was a solid rectangle?

Or when "you know what you're doing" you can just clamp it up and get it indexed properly or whatever the right term is?
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 2:50:53 AM EDT
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Man, I wish I had space for a workshop! The PDR looks good so far... can't wait to see future progress and ultimately the finished product.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 7:37:03 AM EDT
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Let me preface... I know nothing of milling/machining.



Would it be easier to mill out the insides of the lower accurately for the magazine well, and whatever other relief cuts for action parts and the upper, holes for the trigger and FCG etc. when the polymer block was a solid rectangle?



Or when "you know what you're doing" you can just clamp it up and get it indexed properly or whatever the right term is?
Basically this

The top and rear planes still aren't truly defined on the lower and are just roughed out.  the top plane will drop a bit, but I haven't quite ironed out the mating geometry to the upper yet.  The rear of the stock is an extra 1.5 or so inches long at the moment, didn't want to limit myself on bolt stroke just yet...



 
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 7:46:43 AM EDT
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Man, I wish I had space for a workshop! Looks good so far... can't wait to see future progress and ultimately the finished product.


 Haven't been here long, it'll fill up quickly I'm sure...

There's a paint booth through the far door and an office/bathroom on the right



(older picture)





 
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 10:50:38 AM EDT
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Man, I wish I had space for a workshop! Looks good so far... can't wait to see future progress and ultimately the finished product.

 Haven't been here long, it'll fill up quickly I'm sure...
There's a paint booth through the far door and an office/bathroom on the right

(older picture)
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/New%20House/0707001948.jpg
 


What the....you made me a BOV? That is an awesome space. (Napoleon Dynamite Voice) Lucky (Napoleon Dynamite Voice)
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 11:07:26 AM EDT
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What the....you made me a BOV? That is an awesome space. (Napoleon Dynamite Voice) Lucky (Napoleon Dynamite Voice)


And yes, it does have a Hemi in it...





 
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 11:43:33 AM EDT
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What the....you made me a BOV? That is an awesome space. (Napoleon Dynamite Voice) Lucky (Napoleon Dynamite Voice)

And yes, it does have a Hemi in it...

 


That is an awesome BOV!!!
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 11:46:25 AM EDT
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That is an awesome BOV!!!
Hard to tell scale in the shop, but those are .44's



Sis:





 
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 12:02:46 PM EDT
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That is an awesome BOV!!!
Hard to tell scale in the shop, but those are .44's

Sis:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/196607_532944059526_85501662_31250447_5345127_n.jpg
 


So she was the one at the middle of that HTF soap opera thread-derailment

That is a great space!
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 12:08:15 PM EDT
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Man, I wish I had space for a workshop! Looks good so far... can't wait to see future progress and ultimately the finished product.

 Haven't been here long, it'll fill up quickly I'm sure...
There's a paint booth through the far door and an office/bathroom on the right

(older picture)
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/New%20House/0707001948.jpg
 


Are you building a Warthog? I mean Puma???
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 1:01:10 PM EDT
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So she was the one at the middle of that HTF soap opera thread-derailment








yyyyep...
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Are you building a Warthog? I mean Puma???



Sorta, but not really.  It was the original inspiration though...
Yeahhhh, the shop is the same size as the house, I've got my priorities





 
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:19:58 PM EDT
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Your brother-in-law is a lucky man.

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So she was the one at the middle of that HTF soap opera thread-derailment


yyyyep...

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Are you building a Warthog? I mean Puma???

Sorta, but not really.  It was the original inspiration though...



Yeahhhh, the shop is the same size as the house, I've got my priorities
 


Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:27:51 PM EDT
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seems you have a good taste in multiple fields!
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 3:57:38 PM EDT
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seems you have a good taste in multiple fields!















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Your brother-in-law is a lucky man.




Maybe so, but I don't know if I've met him yet, and neither does she...

 
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 4:02:03 PM EDT
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Sweet project, I'm looking forward to seeing the end result.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 4:21:19 PM EDT
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seems you have a good taste in multiple fields!










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Your brother-in-law is a lucky man.




Maybe so, but I don't know if I've met him yet, and neither does she...
 


Less talky, more machiney!

 



And are you doing all that by hand, or did you manage to hide some servos on that mill somewhere? I don't even want to think about cutting stuff like that by hand.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 4:38:21 PM EDT
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Less talky, more machiney!  






And are you doing all that by hand, or did you manage to hide some servos on that mill somewhere? I don't even want to think about cutting stuff like that by hand.



By hand, taking my time obviously


Straights and radii aren't hard, but the splines are tedious...

I once drew a 4" circle with the X-Y on a Bridgeport on a dare, I was darn good on the Etch-a-Sketch...





The REAL fun part is going to be profiling everything down nice and smooth...


I'll remove the bulk with the mill and finish up with a finger sander.


If this thing works out I'll drop the other chunk of Nylatron on the CNC once I get it running...
 
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 6:22:29 PM EDT
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Holy Crap.. you're like one half of Howe & Howe tech!

So where do you keep the tracked vehicles?

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