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Posted: 7/18/2009 2:41:15 PM
I just saw a Mohawk lower at my local gun shop here in Middle Tennessee. They are manufactured in Midway, Tennessee. I've never heard of them. Does anyone know anything about them? Thanks.
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Posted: 7/18/2009 7:22:14 PM
I just went to check Mohawk Armory products out. I did find a picture of their lower. It states "Multi" for caliber. That's one of the first things I look at any more. Looks fine to me. I'd try one if the price was right......

Linki Thingy:http://www.gungeeksunite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66


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Posted: 7/19/2009 10:33:57 AM
Thanks, friend. The Mohawk lower I saw looked very good. It seemed they had paid a lot of attention to workmanship.
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Posted: 8/1/2009 2:45:22 PM
They've got one of these in a local gunshop for the very reasonable price (so far as I can tell) of $130. Considering that buying locally will not only support the local guys but end up (by my not having to pay shipping or transfer fees) effectively costing what a $90 internet lower would cost, I'd like to start my very first AR build here, but I'm also a little leery.

The local guy tells me that several of the "big name" guys use Mohawk built receivers and just put their own names on them. Of course, he has nothing to back that statement up, and I don't know him personally like I do some of the others. I do know that I tried to find their website and couldn't.

That being said, I did hold the lower in my hands and look it over. It looked good to my non-BRD eyes. The casting seemed solid, without pits or dents, the finish was solid, un-mottled, and complete. (As opposed to my issue weapon from back in the day, which looked like a tribesman had cast it in a hole beneath his privy)

Has nobody else used one of these yet?


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Posted: 8/11/2009 2:33:08 PM
I have had the pleasure of using one of the Mohawk lowers. I am the Chief Deputy Sheriff at the Greene County Sheriff's Department which is the county where Mohawk Armory is located in East Tennessee. The owner gave me the first one he made for testing. I am also one of the firearms instructors at the department. We ran a 40 hour rifle school right after I assembled the lower and put it with an upper. We ran over 2000 rounds through this gun in a week. Since that time I have run another 1000 through it, a lot of this was with the bump fireing technique which simulates full auto fire. I am very impressed with the lower. I have assembled guns on all the major brands of stripped lowers and this one goes together with the same ease which the big names do. I also have the pleasure of being able to call the maker of the lowers one of my friends and would recommend him to anyone to do business with. His name is Jim Graham and if you need to contact him his cell phone is 423-335-6528 he knows guns and loves to shoot and talk the language. Give him a try he will save you some money and give you a quality product. If anyone would like a picture of the one I tested you can email me at gcsd2@comcast.net. Also check out the Greene County Sheriff's Department at www.greenecountsheriffsdepartment.org

Thanks have a good day which I hope involves getting to shoot your favorite gun.

John Jones
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Posted: 8/15/2009 3:12:20 PM
See my post these are excellent lowers with a very good finsh. I have used and shot them both. Highly reccomend.
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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:11:18 AM
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I HAVE PERSONALLY SHOT AN AR-15 BUILT ON A MOHAWK ARMORY LOWER AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY ARE JUST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN BUSHMASTER, COLT OR ANY OF THE OTHER WELL KNOWN BRANDS. I HAVE TOURED THE FACILITY WHERE THESE LOWERS ARE MADE AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY GO THROUGH A STRICT INSPECTION PROCESS BEFORE THEY ARE APPROVED AND SHIPPED. THE OWNER OF MOHAWK ARMORY (JIM GRAHAM) HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE OF GUNS THAN ANYBODY I KNOW. HE TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN HIS WORK AND HE STANDS BEHIND HIS PRODUCTS. I RECENTLY ATTENDED A TACTICAL RIFLE SCHOOL AND USED ONE OF THE MOHAWK ARMORY LOWERS ON AN OLDER DOUBLE STAR UPPER RECEIVER. I SHOT APPROXIMATELY 800 ROUNDS IN FOUR DAYS AND THE MOHAWK LOWER PERFORMED FLAWLESSLY. I KNOW THE GUY WHO ASSEMBLES THE COMPLETE GUNS FOR MOHAWK ARMORY AND HE SAYS THEIR LOWERS ARE BUILT TO CLOSER TOLERANCES THAN THE OTHER WELL KNOWN BRANDS. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PURCHASING AN AR-15 LOWER, DON'T HESITATE TO PURCHASE ONE FROM MOHAWK ARMORY. THEY HAVE A NEW WEBSITE THAT JUST STARTED UP www.mohawkarmory.com
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Posted: 9/8/2009 10:37:29 PM
Originally Posted By gpd43148:
I HAVE PERSONALLY SHOT AN AR-15 BUILT ON A MOHAWK ARMORY LOWER AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY ARE JUST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN BUSHMASTER, COLT OR ANY OF THE OTHER WELL KNOWN BRANDS. I HAVE TOURED THE FACILITY WHERE THESE LOWERS ARE MADE AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY GO THROUGH A STRICT INSPECTION PROCESS BEFORE THEY ARE APPROVED AND SHIPPED. THE OWNER OF MOHAWK ARMORY (JIM GRAHAM) HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE OF GUNS THAN ANYBODY I KNOW. HE TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN HIS WORK AND HE STANDS BEHIND HIS PRODUCTS. I RECENTLY ATTENDED A TACTICAL RIFLE SCHOOL AND USED ONE OF THE MOHAWK ARMORY LOWERS ON AN OLDER DOUBLE STAR UPPER RECEIVER. I SHOT APPROXIMATELY 800 ROUNDS IN FOUR DAYS AND THE MOHAWK LOWER PERFORMED FLAWLESSLY. I KNOW THE GUY WHO ASSEMBLES THE COMPLETE GUNS FOR MOHAWK ARMORY AND HE SAYS THEIR LOWERS ARE BUILT TO CLOSER TOLERANCES THAN THE OTHER WELL KNOWN BRANDS. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PURCHASING AN AR-15 LOWER, DON'T HESITATE TO PURCHASE ONE FROM MOHAWK ARMORY. THEY HAVE A NEW WEBSITE THAT JUST STARTED UP www.mohawkarmory.com


How long you been working for them?

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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:33:02 PM
The product description at Mohawkarmory.com sounds very similar to the one for AGP - CNC machined except the mag well, wihich is EDM.

It's not a complaint, just an observation, as both are reputed to be pretty high quality. If the Mohawk pictures could be enlarged, it would be easy to see if the mag well markings are CNC machined or roll marked. If the former, the similarity is even closer.

The both have a $95 intro price + shipping and FFL, too.

It suggests one shop is actually doing the work - with multiple outlets. If you have ever traveled cross country and noticed the same pickup bed toppers with different regional labels on them, you might be tempted to assume the same thing has happened here - small entrepreneurs starting up a business venture in an expanding market to build identity branding.

Mohawk or AGP, who might the real source be? And - do we even care?
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Posted: 9/9/2009 6:30:45 AM
Never saw so many 1-2-3 post in one thread.
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Posted: 9/9/2009 6:37:29 AM
Id like one, and sent the info to all my Mohawk buds, Im sure they will love em
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Posted: 9/23/2009 8:39:17 AM
Hey fellows––I recently used an AR 15 lower built by Mohawk Armory with a Rock River ARms Upper. It shot extremely well especially since I was using wolf ammo 55 grain. I also saw a new lower the owner, Jim Graham, is building for a .308. He starts with a billet of 7075 aluminum and machines it at his shop. THen he has it hard anodized mil. spec coating. I am interesting in getting to shoot that particular gun. The AR15 lower is very nice. I shot about 200 rounds through it and was shooting 1 1/2 groups at 50 and 4" groups at 100. I am a mediocre shot so I felt that was really good with the ammo and the shooter considered. If you are going to build an AR15 his lowers are worth considering.
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Posted: 9/23/2009 8:45:05 AM
By the way I personally know Jim Graham and thought that should be noted. But that does not change my evaluation of his product. I am a Vietnam Vet served with the 173rd and am currently a pastor in a neighboring town that Mohawk Armory is in. Whiile I am not an expert by any means I have trained on an M16 and for the last few years have shot a few 3 gun matches using an AR15 so I am familiar with the weapon. Mohawk Armory makes a good product.
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Posted: 9/23/2009 4:06:19 PM
4 newbies from Tennessee with their first post in this thread. Has any mod or admin done IP checks for duplicate accounts?
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Posted: 9/23/2009 4:15:44 PM
Originally Posted By Hootbro:
4 newbies from Tennessee with their first post in this thread. Has any mod or admin done IP checks for duplicate accounts?


Ya no shit. Haven't seen this kind of treachory since the Black Rain Ordenance thread or the PlumCrazy Firearms thread. Whata joke.
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Posted: 9/24/2009 12:59:15 PM
I don't blame you I would not trust me either.
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Posted: 9/24/2009 1:01:34 PM
By the way guys what does the star and teammember designation stand for?
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Posted: 9/24/2009 1:10:30 PM
OK, anyone with REAL information here?

I'm an ACTUAL Tennessean and would love to get my hands on a hometown lower.
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By the way guys what does the star and teammember designation stand for?


http://store.ar15.com/store/index.html?cat=2
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Posted: 9/24/2009 9:07:47 PM
Some of the posts in this thread seems a bit suspicious...

I too have been seeing these lowers for sale at several local shops: Big Al's in Greeneville, DTS Firearms on Oasis Road in Bulls Gap. The owner at DTS (Jeff?) said he was a friend of the guy making the Mohawk Armory lowers.
I will say that the one I handled seemed nice, in some areas (inside the trigger guard area) the finish was better than my Essential Arms lower, not that that necessarily means much.

I was thinking of trying one, if I ever get around to another build.
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Posted: 9/24/2009 9:44:22 PM
In defence of the new guys, its quite possible that one of them noticed the thread about Mohawk lowers and since he was a friend of the guy who built them and and had buddies that had used them with a positive experience he called all of them and asked them to set up accounts so they could inform us of their good experiences. I have no problem with that, but it does look kinda odd having a bunch of newbies show up raving about the product being discussed.
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Posted: 9/24/2009 9:52:53 PM
We were all new guys once....

ONCE...

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Posted: 9/24/2009 10:24:57 PM
Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
OK, anyone with REAL information here?

I'm an ACTUAL Tennessean and would love to get my hands on a hometown lower.


Me too and I have a few more than 1-2-3 posts. I'm just saying.
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Posted: 9/25/2009 7:40:12 AM
Well I spoke with Jim Graham yesterday about getting a lower. He seemed like a real nice guy and I plan to stop by next week and take a look at one of their lowers and see if I can pick one up. I'll post a followup next week. I hope I have enough posts to seem legit .
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Posted: 9/26/2009 7:11:16 AM
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Anybody got a picture of the lower where you can actually see the markings? The pics on the website are horrible.

ETA: Nevermind, I just saw the pics rom the link posted up top in this thread. I would certainly be interested if the marking were simpler
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Posted: 9/26/2009 10:46:26 PM
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Ok, as a TN guy, I thought I'd put in my 2cents. I took a buddy to Frontier Firearms in Kingston, TN today to check and see if they had any lowers. They had both Aero Precision and Mohawks. The Mohawks were $169 and the Aero's were roughly $100 more.(Call 'em and ask 'em if you don't believe me) I looked over several of the Mohawks and the Aeros. The Aeros showed a lot of rough tooling in the in mag well and the finish was very shiny and sloppy in places including some of the smaller roll pin holes that would have to be cleaed out to be usable. The Mohawks were very cleanly finished flat black, the mag well was smoth as silk and over the several I looked over, no noticable tool marks. Threading was very clean and sharp. I don't know how durrable the finish is. MOHAWK ARMORY is in very large letters on the lower. In my opinion it's at least as nice as a DPMS lower and maybe even better as I have 2 of those and my first build was with a DPMS.
My buddy went with the Mohawk (per my opinion) and we brought it back by my place and fit it to several uppers to it to see how it looked. All the uppers matched up with the 2 main retaining holes and the finish matched up as well. He's pleased, I'm happy he's pleased and when I'm ready to pick up another lower I'll probably get a Mohawk as well. I don't know if these lowers are anywhere but TN. Never heard of them until this thread, and never seen one in a gun store before today.
Yeah, I'm a new guy in TN too. I've lurked this board for years but hadn't built my first AR until recently as I've waited a freakin' year to get a damn barrel to finish my first build thanks to OBAMANATION panic buying! I have 2 lowers to build out yet. One's a DPMS and the other's a CMMG that I've had for 2+ years. Your probably going to see more people join the board as parts become available from all makers and they can actually start talking about their builds. I didn't feel I had anything or any right to say anything on this site until I actually got a rifle together. I built mine from individual parts that I've picked up over the last 3 years. I put less than $600 into it. I have 2 more that need barrels to finish they also will most likely come in at under 600 as well. I've spent quite a bit to get all the proper tools as I belive this will be a hobbie from now until I'm too old to pick up a rifle. I'm a KISS guy and I don't get WOW'd by brand names or TACTICOOL BS. If I like something and I don't think it's overpriced I'll probably consider it somewhere down the line. If it ain't practical it ain't tactical. You'll note that my builds will tend to be rather plain jane compared to other posters. I'm fairly new to ARs but I'm not new to guns or working on them myself.
I can't speak as to any of the MID TN guys that have posted on this subject, I don't know them, I'm in East TN myself. I just saw the post and the rather uncomplementary remarks about "TN new guys" and thought I'd say howdy. And what's the deal with Aero lowers being $100 more anyway? That just freakin' blew my mind!
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