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PerryJeff
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Posted: 6/26/2009 11:10:46 AM
Has anyone puchased from Blackthorne? I am thinking of getting a Varmint Kit from them?
Thanks
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Posted: 6/26/2009 11:16:35 AM
Commence .

IOO

and

IBTL
jayhanfosho
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Posted: 6/26/2009 11:22:31 AM
Dont do it!
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Posted: 6/26/2009 11:33:48 AM
NOOOOOO!!!!!

I can't believe they are still going by blackthorne. Isn't time for them to change their name again to protect the guilty?

- AG
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Posted: 6/26/2009 11:49:07 AM
[Last Edit: 6/26/2009 11:49:27 AM by lamarbrog]
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES CHILDREN!

The Blackthorne monster is going to kill is all!



Seriously, though, you DO NOT WANT Blackthorne.
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:01:17 PM
Blackthorne = Terrible products, don't make the same mistake I did.

Fine Print:

Blackthorne is not liable for any versions of the following: 1. Failing to fire due to poor assembly. 2. Terrible canted front sight due to poor assembly. 3. Small or Large explosions that may cause minor to severe injuries to the shooter and/or those within close/far proximity, due to poor assembly...

Seriously though.. minor or major problems will occur.
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:05:07 PM
They have changed their name over the years and you can find more information if you google Hesse or Vulcan Armament. Blackthorne is not a reputable company. They are known for using substandard parts and parts intended for airsoft toys. Customer service is inconsistent and non-existent in some cases.
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:24:35 PM
Blackthorne, Hesse, Vulcan= Dangerous and pure junk.


Dont buy any of it.
PerryJeff
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:30:26 PM
WOW Thanks for the imput everyone. That must be why their kits are $100 cheaper then the rest?

Any suggestions then on good Varmint barrel kit 24 in barrel?
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:57:03 PM
Originally Posted By PerryJeff:
WOW Thanks for the imput everyone. That must be why their kits are $100 cheaper then the rest?

Any suggestions then on good Varmint barrel kit 24 in barrel?


http://jtdistributing.net/store/more_k_bbk.html

http://www.model1sales.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=KV2400&storeid=1&image=v24k.gif&CFID=47846884&CFTOKEN=12430863

You can also check gunbroker.com or the Equipment Exchange for a dealer or used one. Just make you understand that everyone is having a long delivery time on AR15 parts, especially not-so-common parts like 24" barrels.

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Posted: 6/26/2009 1:02:49 PM
PK firearms has a .204 rugar Varmenter in stock complete upper
and also DPMS m4 5.56 upper complete in stock only one of these left HURRY
PerryJeff
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Posted: 6/26/2009 3:44:30 PM
Thanks Guys I will go Model 1 route and wait I saw the posts with long wait times so was looking for someone else but quality is number 1. Besides I have had this reciever since the Clinton days I bought 3 recievers back in 92 one is m4 style 16 in barrel and the other is A2 style. It is much easier doing kits now I see they come with barrel attached and headspaced now. Generally they were pretty good in the day but I did one that was a real b- Itch to headspace.
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Posted: 6/26/2009 8:34:54 PM
Maybe I am a lucky slob, but I've just bought a 24" SS varmint rifle from Blackthorne. I lubricated all the parts, and took it to the range yesterday, except for 2 FTF (my own reloads) it performed flawlessly. It was tight for maybe the first 5 or 10 rds, and afterwards it became ok. Ran a boresnake impreganted with Ed's Red every 5 rds. At 100yds with a 3-9 scope, the groups were 2.5-3 inches. shot maybe 60 rds and no complaint except for the FTF.Workmanship is average to very good, no scratches or blemishes, SS Barrel not shiny but not dull (brushed, maybe?). My brother has a BT 16 CAR with EA lower and he swears by it. Just my honest opinion. PS, I do not work for BTP.
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Posted: 6/26/2009 9:57:22 PM

Originally Posted By 95xlh883:
Maybe I am a lucky slob, but I've just bought a 24" SS varmint rifle from Blackthorne. I lubricated all the parts, and took it to the range yesterday, except for 2 FTF (my own reloads) it performed flawlessly. It was tight for maybe the first 5 or 10 rds, and afterwards it became ok. Ran a boresnake impreganted with Ed's Red every 5 rds. At 100yds with a 3-9 scope, the groups were 2.5-3 inches. shot maybe 60 rds and no complaint except for the FTF.Workmanship is average to very good, no scratches or blemishes, SS Barrel not shiny but not dull (brushed, maybe?). My brother has a BT 16 CAR with EA lower and he swears by it. Just my honest opinion. PS, I do not work for BTP.

You got VERY lucky.
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Posted: 6/27/2009 1:26:17 AM
Originally Posted By 95xlh883:
Maybe I am a lucky slob, but I've just bought a 24" SS varmint rifle from Blackthorne. I lubricated all the parts, and took it to the range yesterday, except for 2 FTF (my own reloads) it performed flawlessly. It was tight for maybe the first 5 or 10 rds, and afterwards it became ok. Ran a boresnake impreganted with Ed's Red every 5 rds. At 100yds with a 3-9 scope, the groups were 2.5-3 inches. shot maybe 60 rds and no complaint except for the FTF.Workmanship is average to very good, no scratches or blemishes, SS Barrel not shiny but not dull (brushed, maybe?). My brother has a BT 16 CAR with EA lower and he swears by it. Just my honest opinion. PS, I do not work for BTP.


"Even a blind pig finds an accorn now and then." They probably just forgot to screw up your order. I'm sure next time they will take steps to correct this.
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Posted: 6/27/2009 5:41:11 AM

Originally Posted By 95xlh883:
Maybe I am a lucky slob, but I've just bought a 24" SS varmint rifle from Blackthorne. I lubricated all the parts, and took it to the range yesterday, except for 2 FTF (my own reloads) it performed flawlessly. It was tight for maybe the first 5 or 10 rds, and afterwards it became ok. Ran a boresnake impreganted with Ed's Red every 5 rds. At 100yds with a 3-9 scope, the groups were 2.5-3 inches. shot maybe 60 rds and no complaint except for the FTF.Workmanship is average to very good, no scratches or blemishes, SS Barrel not shiny but not dull (brushed, maybe?). My brother has a BT 16 CAR with EA lower and he swears by it. Just my honest opinion. PS, I do not work for BTP.
You're shooting 3 MOA at 100 yds and you call that good? Were those groups from standing maybe? Anyone advertising their rigs as "varmint" should be shooting at least 1 MOA at 100 yds.

I'm from Texas, what country are you from?
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Posted: 6/27/2009 7:56:03 AM
I made the uneducated mistake a few years ago of buying a Blackthorn varmint kit. I took it to a friend of mine who is a RRA dealer as I was picking up the RRA lower from him. He identified the buttstock as unusual, later determined to be airsoft. He enlightened me to Blackthorn+Hesse=Vulcan. It became clear to me from my FAL experience who these guys were. I promptly traded the kit for ammo at a gun show. Unless the previous poster was shooting offhand, 3" groups at 100 yds. is horrible. A varmint or match barrel scoped on a bench should make one ragged hole.
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Posted: 6/27/2009 12:14:11 PM
I think that a lot of folks have one BT rifle but are afraid to admit it. Just like a toilet, everybody has one but no one want to be seen using it
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Posted: 6/27/2009 12:27:39 PM
3 inch grp at 100 yds i think is good i cant do that with my h bar colt and 4xtrij.
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Posted: 6/27/2009 12:54:09 PM

Originally Posted By xenith:
3 inch grp at 100 yds i think is good i cant do that with my h bar colt and 4xtrij.


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Posted: 6/27/2009 1:09:27 PM
Originally Posted By xenith:
3 inch grp at 100 yds i think is good i cant do that with my h bar colt and 4xtrij.



Geez 3 inch at 100 yards? Does that mean at 350 you're off the page altogether? Tighten it up son!


Blackthorne thread...IBTL
jayhanfosho
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Posted: 6/27/2009 1:13:10 PM
Originally Posted By xenith:
3 inch grp at 100 yds i think is good i cant do that with my h bar colt and 4xtrij.


what?
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Posted: 6/27/2009 1:39:30 PM
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Originally Posted By xenith:
3 inch grp at 100 yds i think is good i cant do that with my h bar colt and 4xtrij.


what?


He must have a few broken keys on his keyboard.
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Posted: 6/27/2009 1:44:09 PM
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Posted: 6/27/2009 1:56:51 PM
Originally Posted By 95xlh883:
Maybe I am a lucky slob, but I've just bought a 24" SS varmint rifle from Blackthorne. I lubricated all the parts, and took it to the range yesterday, except for 2 FTF (my own reloads) it performed flawlessly. It was tight for maybe the first 5 or 10 rds, and afterwards it became ok. Ran a boresnake impreganted with Ed's Red every 5 rds. At 100yds with a 3-9 scope, the groups were 2.5-3 inches. shot maybe 60 rds and no complaint except for the FTF.Workmanship is average to very good, no scratches or blemishes, SS Barrel not shiny but not dull (brushed, maybe?). My brother has a BT 16 CAR with EA lower and he swears by it. Just my honest opinion. PS, I do not work for BTP.


2.5"-3" groups with a "varmint kit" is bad. unless you have really big varmints you won't be hitting
many farther out.
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Posted: 6/27/2009 2:27:26 PM
Just a heads up, Blackthorne has a new company Velocity Firearms they are making the move again.


Look out for Velocity Firearms

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