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Posted: 1/13/2017 6:13:25 PM EDT
Just saw this on streamlight's website. New two cell weapon light that can also use 18650 rechargeables. 1000 lumens.
ProTac Rail Mount HL-X |
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I want the one without rail mount, as long as the body diameter is about 1" it will work with my Vltor SMQ-OCG QD mounts I currently use.
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I want one.
Do these use the same mounting platform as Scout lights? For if I already have a Scout light mount? |
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Agreed. 1000 lumens is mighty bright for a weapon light. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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[#14]
I almost ordered a rail mount today. Glad I didn't. Having a light that can run on my ecig batteries would rock.
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[#15]
1000 lumen @1.25 hours runtime = buy stock in cr123a or go rechargeable.
I'd like to see increased throw |
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[#18]
View Quote That's better. Especially since I got my RM2 a month ago for just under a $100. |
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For me I think it will be too much on a gun that could be used both indoors and outdoors. Probably great for an outside only gun though View Quote I assume you are not a fan of light bulbs in your home then right? Since they are often over 1000 lumens? A 75 watt bulb is 1100 lumens. A 60 watt bulb is 800 lumens. We all know that two 60 watt bulbs inside the same room causes irreparable eye damage. |
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[#22]
I have been more than impressed with streamlights new weapon lights.
They are slowly replacing all my other weapon lights |
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[#25]
They are out and dealers see em but local warehouses are empty. Any day now...
Also, the listed peak candela is over twice that of a 500 lumen Surefire M600 Ultra. 13,000 vs 27,600 That means more than a 50% increase in throw distance. If you felt a Surefire M600 Ultra gave 110+ yards of solid usable range, the Protacs HL-X should give 170+ yards of solid usable range. Streamlight would have you believe the light capable of 330m range. That is probably based off of some unrealistic figure like the 1/4 lux distance instead of a more realistic 1 lux distance. |
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I assume you are not a fan of light bulbs in your home then right? Since they are often over 1000 lumens? A 75 watt bulb is 1100 lumens. A 60 watt bulb is 800 lumens. We all know that two 60 watt bulbs inside the same room causes irreparable eye damage. View Quote |
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[#27]
Let's bear in mind, this light is dual mode. 60/1000. 60 lumens would be fine indoors (meaning inside one's dwelling).
Bump over to the high setting for outdoors or inside other structures, e.g.: warehouse, factory, etc. |
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I assume you are not a fan of light bulbs in your home then right? Since they are often over 1000 lumens? A 75 watt bulb is 1100 lumens. A 60 watt bulb is 800 lumens. We all know that two 60 watt bulbs inside the same room causes irreparable eye damage. View Quote Come on man. Just...Come on...... |
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HL-X available
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Great... just ordered a standard rail mount 2 yesterday... They're pretty bright as it is I wouldn't pay 100 more. Dual fuel but shorter run time. Can get a lot of cr123 for $100. Not saying they're not good but if they're really twice as much (I'm guessing they won't be) |
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[#31]
View Quote That makes more sense. So probably like 120 on cheap sites |
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For me I think it will be too much on a gun that could be used both indoors and outdoors. Probably great for an outside only gun though View Quote I hope this thing is a major thrower as i need some better distance on my scoped outdoors gun. Its also selectable so if you just want an 18650 for use indoors, you can set it up for that. I have a lot of 18650 batteries because i vape. I already have the charger and everything, so it makes a lot of sense to me over cr123 which are good because of long shelf life but suck due to bring disposible. |
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[#35]
Ordered from there, order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th"
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Ordered from there, order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th" View Quote The listing on the LAPG website says "Backordered - ETA 15-17 Days", and has said that for about two weeks. Nobody has them, at least not in any quantity. |
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1000 lumens on a weapon light is too much inside a structure FOR ME. You almost seem to take this as a personal insult. Do you work for streamlight, or are you just trying to get your post count up? I spend a fair amount of time using a weapon light indoors and 1000 lumens just ist for me. View Quote No, I'm just passionate about directing consensus opinion in the right direction and cutting down faulty, unsound, or misguided ideas when I see them, lest people reading to gain knowledge on the subject think those concepts are good and valid. It's not a personal preference thing, it's a right or wrong thing. It's like people who though an Aimpoint on a carbine was an inferior choice on this forum in 1990s, when ARFCOM was first becoming ARFCOM and shifting from a discussion board to a website. Those people were wrong, period. While it is common knowledge now, it was not always so. Other misguided ideas I have been passionate about stopping included. Free float rails are inferior to standard M4 heat shielded handguards. A two stage trigger, like a Geissele SSA, is inferior to a milspec trigger and more prone to failure. A flashight on a weapon is a bad idea, because you should rely on your night adapted vision. If your rifle is too heavy, you should lift more weights. Anything outside the Colt TDP in an AR is inferior. Polymer magazines are always inferior to USGI magazines. Increased magnification does not allow you to shoot with more precision and accuracy. Nowdays, most of these are DUH concepts but it was not always so. Just like now people think 1000 lumens is too much indoors. There are tons of work arounds, such as, using indirect light to illuminate, not looking directly at your hot spot, and not shining your light into mirrors or white walls for no reason. If 1000 lumens bothers you, it's a software issue, not a hardware issue. And 65 lumens was never enough light indoors. The concept of sub 1000 lumen lights being better indoors is an inherently wrong concept that should be countered at every turn... like people who espouse an Aimpoint should not go on a rifle because it is battery operated. Sure, you can pull a battery out of the Aimpoint and demonstrate use of BUIS through a dead Aimpont to be inferior to straight irons. Sure, you can shine a bright light into a white wall, leave it on, and stare at it to blind yourself. Those ideas still ignore the fact that an Aimpoint and 1000 lumen light usually work, don't blind you, and allow you to be more effective the majority of the time and certain techniques and procedures minimize the potential negatives to almost zero. I will admit I had a "piston superior to DI" phase that was wrong... people who vehemently told me I was wrong eventually straightened me out. That's why this place exists. |
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[#38]
Once again, I ordered from Copsplus.com and my order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th"
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[#39]
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The listing on the LAPG website says "Backordered - ETA 15-17 Days", and has said that for about two weeks. Nobody has them, at least not in any quantity. View Quote Your comment/statement has no bearing effect, therefore, it was completely unnecessary. Thank you, carry on.. |
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No, I'm just passionate about directing consensus opinion in the right direction and cutting down faulty, unsound, or misguided ideas when I see them, lest people reading to gain knowledge on the subject think those concepts are good and valid. It's not a personal preference thing, it's a right or wrong thing. It's like people who though an Aimpoint on a carbine was an inferior choice on this forum in 1990s, when ARFCOM was first becoming ARFCOM and shifting from a discussion board to a website. Those people were wrong, period. While it is common knowledge now, it was not always so. Other misguided ideas I have been passionate about stopping included. Free float rails are inferior to standard M4 heat shielded handguards. A two stage trigger, like a Geissele SSA, is inferior to a milspec trigger and more prone to failure. A flashight on a weapon is a bad idea, because you should rely on your night adapted vision. If your rifle is too heavy, you should lift more weights. Anything outside the Colt TDP in an AR is inferior. Polymer magazines are always inferior to USGI magazines. Increased magnification does not allow you to shoot with more precision and accuracy. Nowdays, most of these are DUH concepts but it was not always so. Just like now people think 1000 lumens is too much indoors. There are tons of work arounds, such as, using indirect light to illuminate, not looking directly at your hot spot, and not shining your light into mirrors or white walls for no reason. If 1000 lumens bothers you, it's a software issue, not a hardware issue. And 65 lumens was never enough light indoors. The concept of sub 1000 lumen lights being better indoors is an inherently wrong concept that should be countered at every turn... like people who espouse an Aimpoint should not go on a rifle because it is battery operated. Sure, you can pull a battery out of the Aimpoint and demonstrate use of BUIS through a dead Aimpont to be inferior to straight irons. Sure, you can shine a bright light into a white wall, leave it on, and stare at it to blind yourself. Those ideas still ignore the fact that an Aimpoint and 1000 lumen light usually work, don't blind you, and allow you to be more effective the majority of the time and certain techniques and procedures minimize the potential negatives to almost zero. I will admit I had a "piston superior to DI" phase that was wrong... people who vehemently told me I was wrong eventually straightened me out. That's why this place exists. View Quote Thanks for your opinion I guess, but it's just that, an opinion. Name-calling isn't nice -- sju |
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I have no idea how your comment was relevant to my post. I was simply informing people on the forum that I DID order from Cops Plus and MY order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th". Your comment/statement has no bearing effect, therefore, it was completely unnecessary. Thank you, carry on.. View Quote Be sure to give us a shipping update on March 8th. |
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[#43]
I am seriously considering picking up a RM2. I am a big fan of Surefire SR07 switch, how do you guys who have both think the Streamlight Rail Mount light switch compares?
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[#44]
The switch has proved excellent so far. For me durability and switching has always set Surefire apart. I don't have years on these Streamlight switches yet, but I'm shocked at how good these are so far. That and all the kit included to help mount the switch in unothadox ways (such as with the provided 3m tape and screws mounted to the forend of my Beretta 1301) I'm sold. They're putting out higher lumens with reliable switches and realistic prices. I still favor the Uboats for pistol lights as I've broken too many TLR-1 switches but for these scout style lights I'm finding it hard to consider anything else.
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[#45]
There's nothing super innovative about the light; but it is a nice package deal if one needs all of it.
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[#46]
I finally broke down and grabbed a protac RM2 to compare against my SF scouts, and I'll just cut to the chase, it's much better.
I'll try the HLX as soon as I can get one but this 625 lumen version is amazing, streamlight really listened, no more of that massive spill and no real focus this thing is a laser, even tighter than the 600 lumen scout and a lot brighter, keep in mind this thing is barely larger than the M300 scout yet it overpowers the M600 big league. Simply put this is an industry leading product from streamlight, a changing of the guard, every carbine needs one of these, now if they would rework the TLR with stout switches and a focused beam like these rail mounts they will bury the mighty X300. Streamlight is goin places....... |
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I finally broke down and grabbed a protac RM2 to compare against my SF scouts, and I'll just cut to the chase, it's much better. I'll try the HLX as soon as I can get one but this 625 lumen version is amazing, streamlight really listened, no more of that massive spill and no real focus this thing is a laser Which is not the best thing. Pat Rogers (RIP) talked a lot about this, and it was part of why he advocated the SF Fury, and was the driving force behind the 1-mode FURY which became the "Fury Scout". A "laser" is NOT what is wanted. That said, the RM1 and RM2 are not lasers. They have a smaller hotspot yes, but they do have pretty good spill, too, even tighter than the 600 lumen scout and a lot brighter It has slightly higher LUX in my testing, it's not "a lot brighter" though., keep in mind this thing is barely larger than the M300 scout Kindof like how the M600 is barely larger than the M300? The RM2 is larger than the M600, FYI...yet it overpowers the M600 big league 25 lumens is "big league"?. Simply put this is an industry leading product from streamlight, a changing of the guard In the budget realm, yes., every carbine needs one of these, now if they would rework the TLR with stout switches and a focused beam like these rail mounts they will bury the mighty X300. Streamlight is goin places....... View Quote I am interested to know if Streamlight took advice from many, and fixed the flickering issues with the HL-X, by adding a spring to the "head" end of the light. |
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[#48]
I dont give a fuck about the price, never did, same with your opinion. I think it's a superior light to the scout series.
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[#49]
Anyone know what tail cap and tape switch combo should work with the NON-RAILED versions. I have an offset ring Keymod and can't seem to find this out. Definitely opting to jump on the HLX
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Anyone know what tail cap and tape switch combo should work with the NON-RAILED versions. I have an offset ring Keymod and can't seem to find this out. Definitely opting to jump on the HLX View Quote |
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