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Posted: 1/13/2017 6:13:25 PM EDT
Just saw this on streamlight's website. New two cell weapon light that can also use 18650 rechargeables. 1000 lumens.

ProTac Rail Mount HL-X
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 11:51:15 PM EDT
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Will definitely be purchasing a few.
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 12:13:20 AM EDT
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I want the one without rail mount, as long as the body diameter is about 1" it will work with my Vltor SMQ-OCG QD mounts I currently use.
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 7:46:42 PM EDT
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Any idea on street price?
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 12:50:11 PM EDT
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Streamlight replied on facebook. $200 msrp.
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 1:06:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2017 2:33:23 PM EDT
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Great... just ordered a standard rail mount 2 yesterday...
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:00:38 PM EDT
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I want one.  

Do these use the same mounting platform as Scout lights?  For if I already have a Scout light mount?
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:10:08 PM EDT
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They're pretty bright as it is
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 3:10:28 PM EDT
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Yeah and I ordered one last week
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 1:08:51 AM EDT
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Agreed. 1000 lumens is mighty bright for a weapon light.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 12:28:44 PM EDT
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I'm hoping that translates into A LOT of throw.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 2:49:50 PM EDT
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Now theyre saying $135!
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 11:26:30 PM EDT
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Agreed. 1000 lumens is mighty bright for a weapon light.
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They're pretty bright as it is

Agreed. 1000 lumens is mighty bright for a weapon light.
For me I think it will be too much on a gun that could be used both indoors and outdoors.   Probably great for an outside only gun though
Link Posted: 1/19/2017 11:26:10 PM EDT
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I almost ordered a rail mount today. Glad I didn't. Having a light that can run on my ecig batteries would rock.
Link Posted: 1/23/2017 2:01:22 PM EDT
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1000 lumen @1.25 hours runtime = buy stock in cr123a or go rechargeable.

I'd like to see increased throw
Link Posted: 1/25/2017 1:18:12 PM EDT
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I find a 500 lumen Surefire Fury is way too bright when shined up against a white wall.
Link Posted: 1/26/2017 3:55:57 AM EDT
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Then don't point it at the wall. Anyone utilizing proper technique will not blind themselves.
Link Posted: 2/7/2017 9:15:10 AM EDT
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That's better. Especially since I got my RM2 a month ago for just under a $100.
Link Posted: 2/7/2017 9:42:28 PM EDT
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I assume you are not a fan of light bulbs in your home then right? Since they are often over 1000 lumens? A 75 watt bulb is 1100 lumens. A 60 watt bulb is 800 lumens. We all know that two 60 watt bulbs inside the same room causes irreparable eye damage.
Link Posted: 2/7/2017 9:45:09 PM EDT
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I hear you... I find a 500 lumen Scout too bright when I shine it into my eyeball. Wouldn't want a light that could blind me to be used for self defense situations.
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 12:46:08 AM EDT
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Looks like a great light and I thought the same thing.
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 1:20:50 AM EDT
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I have been more than impressed with streamlights new weapon lights.
They are slowly replacing all my other weapon lights
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 11:04:31 AM EDT
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Yeah, me too....these look good.

Really happy that Surefire has solid competition at a fraction of the price.
Link Posted: 2/10/2017 11:08:19 AM EDT
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Any idea on a release date?
Link Posted: 2/16/2017 4:22:28 PM EDT
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They are out and dealers see em but local warehouses are empty. Any day now...

Also, the listed peak candela is over twice that of a 500 lumen Surefire M600 Ultra.

13,000 vs 27,600

That means more than a 50% increase in throw distance.  If you felt a Surefire M600 Ultra gave 110+ yards of solid usable range, the Protacs HL-X should give 170+ yards of solid usable range.

Streamlight would have you believe the light capable of 330m range. That is probably based off of some unrealistic figure like the 1/4 lux distance instead of a more realistic 1 lux distance.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 9:48:30 AM EDT
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I assume you are not a fan of light bulbs in your home then right? Since they are often over 1000 lumens? A 75 watt bulb is 1100 lumens. A 60 watt bulb is 800 lumens. We all know that two 60 watt bulbs inside the same room causes irreparable eye damage.
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1000 lumens on a weapon light is too much inside a structure FOR ME.  You almost seem to take this as a personal insult.  Do you work for streamlight, or are you just trying to get your post count up?  I spend a fair amount of time using a weapon light indoors and 1000 lumens just ist for me.
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 12:45:52 AM EDT
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Let's bear in mind, this light is dual mode.  60/1000.  60 lumens would be fine indoors (meaning inside one's dwelling).  

Bump over to the high setting for outdoors or inside other structures, e.g.: warehouse, factory, etc.
Link Posted: 2/28/2017 11:03:02 PM EDT
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I assume you are not a fan of light bulbs in your home then right? Since they are often over 1000 lumens? A 75 watt bulb is 1100 lumens. A 60 watt bulb is 800 lumens. We all know that two 60 watt bulbs inside the same room causes irreparable eye damage.
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Yes because 1000 lumens in a 360 degree sphere is the *same thing* as a 1000 lumens focused.

Come on man. Just...Come on......  
Link Posted: 3/2/2017 4:04:08 PM EDT
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  HL-X available
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I wouldn't pay 100 more.

Dual fuel but shorter run time.  Can get a lot of cr123 for $100.

Not saying they're not good but if they're really twice as much  (I'm guessing they won't be)
Link Posted: 3/2/2017 4:23:38 PM EDT
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That makes more sense. So probably like 120 on cheap sites
Link Posted: 3/2/2017 6:37:46 PM EDT
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Its about damn time.
Link Posted: 3/2/2017 6:39:16 PM EDT
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Agreed.  600 lumens is awesome for inside.

I hope this thing is a major thrower as i need some better distance on my scoped outdoors gun.

Its also selectable so if you just want an 18650 for use indoors, you can set it up for that.  I have a lot of 18650 batteries because i vape.  I already have the charger and everything, so it makes a lot of sense to me over cr123 which are good because of long shelf life but suck due to bring disposible.
Link Posted: 3/2/2017 9:10:55 PM EDT
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I called them earlier this week.

Nope!  At least, not yet.
Link Posted: 3/2/2017 10:28:04 PM EDT
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Ordered from there, order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th"
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 1:04:31 AM EDT
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The listing on the LAPG website says "Backordered - ETA 15-17 Days", and has said that for about two weeks.

Nobody has them, at least not in any quantity.
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 4:44:52 AM EDT
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1000 lumens on a weapon light is too much inside a structure FOR ME.  You almost seem to take this as a personal insult.  Do you work for streamlight, or are you just trying to get your post count up?  I spend a fair amount of time using a weapon light indoors and 1000 lumens just ist for me.
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No, I'm just passionate about directing consensus opinion in the right direction and cutting down faulty, unsound, or misguided ideas when I see them, lest people reading to gain knowledge on the subject think those concepts are good and valid.

It's not a personal preference thing, it's a right or wrong thing. It's like people who though an Aimpoint on a carbine was an inferior choice on this forum in 1990s, when ARFCOM was first becoming ARFCOM and shifting from a discussion board to a website. Those people were wrong, period. While it is common knowledge now, it was not always so. Other misguided ideas I have been passionate about stopping included.

Free float rails are inferior to standard M4 heat shielded handguards.
A two stage trigger, like a Geissele SSA, is inferior to a milspec trigger and more prone to failure.
A flashight on a weapon is a bad idea, because you should rely on your night adapted vision.
If your rifle is too heavy, you should lift more weights.
Anything outside the Colt TDP in an AR is inferior.
Polymer magazines are always inferior to USGI magazines.
Increased magnification does not allow you to shoot with more precision and accuracy.

Nowdays, most of these are DUH concepts but it was not always so. Just like now people think 1000 lumens is too much indoors. There are tons of work arounds, such as, using indirect light to illuminate, not looking directly at your hot spot, and not shining your light into mirrors or white walls for no reason. If 1000 lumens bothers you, it's a software issue, not a hardware issue. And 65 lumens was never enough light indoors.

The concept of sub 1000 lumen lights being better indoors is an inherently wrong concept that should be countered at every turn... like people who espouse an Aimpoint should not go on a rifle because it is battery operated. Sure, you can pull a battery out of the Aimpoint and demonstrate use of BUIS through a dead Aimpont to be inferior to straight irons.  Sure, you can shine a bright light into a white wall, leave it on, and stare at it to blind yourself. Those ideas still ignore the fact that an Aimpoint and 1000 lumen light usually work, don't blind you, and allow you to be more effective the majority of the time and certain techniques and procedures minimize the potential negatives to almost zero.

I will admit I had a "piston superior to DI" phase that was wrong... people who vehemently told me I was wrong eventually straightened me out. That's why this place exists.
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 2:47:02 PM EDT
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Once again, I ordered from Copsplus.com and my order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th"
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 2:48:56 PM EDT
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The listing on the LAPG website says "Backordered - ETA 15-17 Days", and has said that for about two weeks.

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I have no idea how your comment was relevant to my post. I was simply informing people on the forum that I DID order from Cops Plus and MY order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th".

Your comment/statement has no bearing effect, therefore, it was completely unnecessary.

Thank you, carry on..
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 4:56:04 PM EDT
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No, I'm just passionate about directing consensus opinion in the right direction and cutting down faulty, unsound, or misguided ideas when I see them, lest people reading to gain knowledge on the subject think those concepts are good and valid.

It's not a personal preference thing, it's a right or wrong thing. It's like people who though an Aimpoint on a carbine was an inferior choice on this forum in 1990s, when ARFCOM was first becoming ARFCOM and shifting from a discussion board to a website. Those people were wrong, period. While it is common knowledge now, it was not always so. Other misguided ideas I have been passionate about stopping included.

Free float rails are inferior to standard M4 heat shielded handguards.
A two stage trigger, like a Geissele SSA, is inferior to a milspec trigger and more prone to failure.
A flashight on a weapon is a bad idea, because you should rely on your night adapted vision.
If your rifle is too heavy, you should lift more weights.
Anything outside the Colt TDP in an AR is inferior.
Polymer magazines are always inferior to USGI magazines.
Increased magnification does not allow you to shoot with more precision and accuracy.

Nowdays, most of these are DUH concepts but it was not always so. Just like now people think 1000 lumens is too much indoors. There are tons of work arounds, such as, using indirect light to illuminate, not looking directly at your hot spot, and not shining your light into mirrors or white walls for no reason. If 1000 lumens bothers you, it's a software issue, not a hardware issue. And 65 lumens was never enough light indoors.

The concept of sub 1000 lumen lights being better indoors is an inherently wrong concept that should be countered at every turn... like people who espouse an Aimpoint should not go on a rifle because it is battery operated. Sure, you can pull a battery out of the Aimpoint and demonstrate use of BUIS through a dead Aimpont to be inferior to straight irons.  Sure, you can shine a bright light into a white wall, leave it on, and stare at it to blind yourself. Those ideas still ignore the fact that an Aimpoint and 1000 lumen light usually work, don't blind you, and allow you to be more effective the majority of the time and certain techniques and procedures minimize the potential negatives to almost zero.

I will admit I had a "piston superior to DI" phase that was wrong... people who vehemently told me I was wrong eventually straightened me out. That's why this place exists.
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Thanks for your opinion I guess, but it's just that, an opinion.  Name-calling isn't nice -- sju
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 6:01:27 PM EDT
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I have no idea how your comment was relevant to my post. I was simply informing people on the forum that I DID order from Cops Plus and MY order status says "Expected Ship: Mar 8th".

Your comment/statement has no bearing effect, therefore, it was completely unnecessary.

Thank you, carry on..
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Be sure to give us a shipping update on March 8th.
Link Posted: 3/12/2017 8:54:28 AM EDT
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Anyone's ship yet?
Link Posted: 3/12/2017 8:46:08 PM EDT
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I am seriously considering picking up a RM2.  I am a big fan of Surefire SR07 switch, how do you guys who have both think the Streamlight Rail Mount light switch compares?
Link Posted: 3/13/2017 3:47:09 AM EDT
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The switch has proved excellent so far.  For me durability and switching has always set Surefire apart. I don't have years on these Streamlight switches yet, but I'm shocked at how good these are so far. That and all the kit included to help mount the switch in unothadox ways (such as with the provided 3m tape and screws mounted to the forend of my Beretta 1301) I'm sold. They're putting out higher lumens with reliable switches and realistic prices. I still favor the Uboats for pistol lights as I've broken too many TLR-1 switches but for these scout style lights I'm finding it hard to consider anything else.
Link Posted: 3/13/2017 6:46:30 AM EDT
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There's nothing super innovative about the light; but it is a nice package deal if one needs all of it.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 11:38:45 PM EDT
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I finally broke down and grabbed a protac RM2 to compare against my SF scouts, and I'll just cut to the chase, it's much better.
I'll try the HLX as soon as I can get one but this 625 lumen version is amazing, streamlight really listened, no more of that massive
spill and no real focus this thing is a laser, even tighter than the 600 lumen scout and a lot brighter, keep in mind this thing is barely
larger than the M300 scout yet it overpowers the M600 big league.

Simply put this is an industry leading product from streamlight, a changing of the guard, every carbine needs one of these, now if
they would rework the TLR with stout switches and a focused beam like these rail mounts they will bury the mighty X300.

Streamlight is goin places.......
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 3:16:10 AM EDT
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I finally broke down and grabbed a protac RM2 to compare against my SF scouts, and I'll just cut to the chase, it's much better.
I'll try the HLX as soon as I can get one but this 625 lumen version is amazing, streamlight really listened, no more of that massive
spill and no real focus this thing is a laser Which is not the best thing. Pat Rogers (RIP) talked a lot about this, and it was part of why he advocated the SF Fury, and was the driving force behind the 1-mode FURY which became the "Fury Scout". A "laser" is NOT what is wanted. That said, the RM1 and RM2 are not lasers. They have a smaller hotspot yes, but they do have pretty good spill, too, even tighter than the 600 lumen scout and a lot brighter It has slightly higher LUX in my testing, it's not "a lot brighter" though., keep in mind this thing is barely
larger than the M300 scout  Kindof like how the M600 is barely larger than the M300? The RM2 is larger than the M600, FYI...yet it overpowers the M600 big league 25 lumens is "big league"?.

Simply put this is an industry leading product from streamlight, a changing of the guard In the budget realm, yes., every carbine needs one of these, now if
they would rework the TLR with stout switches and a focused beam like these rail mounts they will bury the mighty X300.

Streamlight is goin places.......
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How is it better? It flickers under recoil, the tint is similar, the output is within 25 lumens, and the beam profile is a bit narrower while the SF's is wider (that comes down to preference). The circuit boards in the Surefire are coated, the Streamlight is not. They both weigh very nearly the same. The Streamlight is roughly $100 cheaper though, if that's your driving concern.

I am interested to know if Streamlight took advice from many, and fixed the flickering issues with the HL-X, by adding a spring to the "head" end of the light.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 8:57:30 PM EDT
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I dont give a fuck about the price, never did, same with your opinion. I think it's a superior light to the scout series.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:42:05 PM EDT
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Anyone know what tail cap and tape switch combo should work with the NON-RAILED versions. I have an offset ring Keymod and can't seem to find this out. Definitely opting to jump on the HLX
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:59:01 PM EDT
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I'd stay away from the tapeswitches. Streamlight has a few issues they need to work out, still, in regards to that. It's the one area their CS rep told me they see problems with. The rest of the light appears to be doing really well, with only a few having connectivity issues in the head due to broken solder interfaces. That's rare though.
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