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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:11:33 PM EDT
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Which DBAL? I bought the D2 and feel like a kid in a candy store. I like to turn the green laser on and laze everything behind my house. I'm walking around the woods with my night vision and DBAL like a storm trooper. Awesome piece of equipment.
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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:47:24 PM EDT
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Which DBAL? I bought the D2 and feel like a kid in a candy store. I like to turn the green laser on and laze everything behind my house. I'm walking around the woods with my night vision and DBAL like a storm trooper. Awesome piece of equipment. That's sick. I don't have NV so I got the OTAL-A |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:50:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's sick. I don't have NV so I got the OTAL-A Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which DBAL? I bought the D2 and feel like a kid in a candy store. I like to turn the green laser on and laze everything behind my house. I'm walking around the woods with my night vision and DBAL like a storm trooper. Awesome piece of equipment. That's sick. I don't have NV so I got the OTAL-A |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 11:02:05 PM EDT
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How do you like it? I've been looking at those as well. What kind of range do you get out of it during daylight? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Which DBAL? I bought the D2 and feel like a kid in a candy store. I like to turn the green laser on and laze everything behind my house. I'm walking around the woods with my night vision and DBAL like a storm trooper. Awesome piece of equipment. That's sick. I don't have NV so I got the OTAL-A I haven't gotten it yet. EE purchase today $550 shipped. Online I found $900+ so I felt it was a good deal. Says 15 meters daytime so I'm hoping that holds |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 2:18:31 PM EDT
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 4:55:42 PM EDT
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 4:57:08 PM EDT
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. I figured it did during the day. I got it for hog hunting (up close shots at dawn/dusk) and because I want my end of the world rifle to have a laser on it for defense night time use, threat deferent and communication. For these purposes I feel ill be happy. Also, because pics. 
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Posted: 5/29/2016 4:59:09 PM EDT
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The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a THATS what I wanted to hear! Half of my reasoning for not getting a DBAL was the weight savings. I don't need a 16oz laser because I don't run NV.... Sweet. I'm glad you like yours! I'm stoked to get it this week. Damn Monday holiday |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 8:47:20 PM EDT
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I've posted this before and I'll post it again. Lasers are meant to be in the IR spectrum and that spectrum only. Anything else is just silly.
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Posted: 5/29/2016 9:12:35 PM EDT
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I've posted this before and I'll post it again. Lasers are meant to be in the IR spectrum and that spectrum only. Anything else is just silly. |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 10:45:51 PM EDT
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I've posted this before and I'll post it again. Lasers are meant to be in the IR spectrum and that spectrum only. Anything else is just silly. Well I respectfully disagree, they deffinetly have a purpose but you don't always have nv on do you? What if you need a laser? |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 10:17:40 AM EDT
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Well I respectfully disagree, they deffinetly have a purpose but you don't always have nv on do you? What if you need a laser? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've posted this before and I'll post it again. Lasers are meant to be in the IR spectrum and that spectrum only. Anything else is just silly. Well I respectfully disagree, they deffinetly have a purpose but you don't always have nv on do you? What if you need a laser? And in what situation would one need a laser? Directing fire at night? Night time shooting? Night vision/IR laser and white light/red dot is superior to the laser. Red lasers are useless in daylight. Eta This had been a discussed in length and many people who's been shot at for a living has just about the same opinion. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 10:30:42 AM EDT
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TNVC has the OTAL on sale for $399. Am seriously considering adding a third one to the collection.
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Posted: 5/30/2016 10:43:31 AM EDT
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And in what situation would one need a laser? Directing fire at night? Night time shooting? Night vision/IR laser and white light/red dot is superior to the laser. Red lasers are useless in daylight. Eta This had been a discussed in length and many people who's been shot at for a living has just about the same opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've posted this before and I'll post it again. Lasers are meant to be in the IR spectrum and that spectrum only. Anything else is just silly. Well I respectfully disagree, they deffinetly have a purpose but you don't always have nv on do you? What if you need a laser? And in what situation would one need a laser? Directing fire at night? Night time shooting? Night vision/IR laser and white light/red dot is superior to the laser. Red lasers are useless in daylight. Eta This had been a discussed in length and many people who's been shot at for a living has just about the same opinion. Visible lasers have many uses.. They sell well and military and police use them. I really don't have the time to describe there uses, I'm sorry. Nv is not some secret society, maybe in afganistan is where they are superior but we are not there, even my friends that aren't into guns have cheap digital nv now, so it's not like nobody can see your laser or whatever. I use visible laser mostly for aiming and communication in an emergency, I also have light/ infared light/ red dot as well so it's not that one is better I use them all. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 12:04:03 PM EDT
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And in what situation would one need a laser? Directing fire at night? Night time shooting? Night vision/IR laser and white light/red dot is superior to the laser. Red lasers are useless in daylight. Eta This had been a discussed in length and many people who's been shot at for a living has just about the same opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've posted this before and I'll post it again. Lasers are meant to be in the IR spectrum and that spectrum only. Anything else is just silly. Well I respectfully disagree, they deffinetly have a purpose but you don't always have nv on do you? What if you need a laser? And in what situation would one need a laser? Directing fire at night? Night time shooting? Night vision/IR laser and white light/red dot is superior to the laser. Red lasers are useless in daylight. Eta This had been a discussed in length and many people who's been shot at for a living has just about the same opinion. Uh, lasers do have the whole "stop or I shoot" thing (self-defense). Not to mention the aided quick shots for when you can't properly get behind your sights. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 1:01:14 PM EDT
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I'll let Augee handle this one. He's the lights/lasers guy and he's forgot more abut light/laser implementation than I'll ever know.
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Posted: 5/30/2016 1:05:37 PM EDT
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The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a OTAL's come both red and green - the $500 one OP purchased on the EE (saw the ad) is red. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 4:13:00 PM EDT
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OTAL's come both red and green - the $500 one OP purchased on the EE (saw the ad) is red. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a OTAL's come both red and green - the $500 one OP purchased on the EE (saw the ad) is red. Well he said otal-a which is only green, otal comes in both. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 5:00:09 PM EDT
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Well he said otal-a which is only green, otal comes in both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a OTAL's come both red and green - the $500 one OP purchased on the EE (saw the ad) is red. Well he said otal-a which is only green, otal comes in both. The laser I bought was advertised as the OTAL Advanced. The only one I currently see online is in fact green only. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 5:17:02 PM EDT
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the otal-a has a fire button on the top and a high and low mode, also it is built to a higher durability and waterproof deeper. It might have come in red before in a civilian model or it could be a restricted 50a model. Either way of it is a otal-a you will love it there great!
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Posted: 5/30/2016 5:18:03 PM EDT
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The laser I bought was advertised as the OTAL Advanced. The only one I currently see online is in fact green only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you bought an OTAL, not a DBAL?
IME, red visible lasers are just about useless in direct sunlight. You may be able to see the dot a few feet out, but they're incredibly hard to pick up on beyond that. They're definitely visible at night, but get washed out pretty good with any reasonably bright weaponlight. Anyways, good luck with it! Hopefully it works for your purposes. The otal-a is green
I have one too and id's a great peice, don't listen to the haters. With the diffuser cover they sell it works great with nv. In the day it will reach 300 yards easy on high. It's a beast. I use it instead of a dbal on purpose because it's half the weight and does pretty much the same thing.. You don't "need" a infared laser when you have such a versatile laser. I love my otal-a OTAL's come both red and green - the $500 one OP purchased on the EE (saw the ad) is red. Well he said otal-a which is only green, otal comes in both. The laser I bought was advertised as the OTAL Advanced. The only one I currently see online is in fact green only. Everything is green at night thru NVD's! We DO have the OTAL's on sale right not at $399.00. 
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Posted: 5/30/2016 5:24:33 PM EDT
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the otal-a has a fire button on the top and a high and low mode, also it is built to a higher durability and waterproof deeper. It might have come in red before in a civilian model or it could be a restricted 50a model. Either way of it is a otal-a you will love it there great! Ok, so it is an A, has the button on the top. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 6:23:49 PM EDT
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All I can tell you is get the diffuser cover at tnvc for about $15 shipped. It will lower your beam to barely visible about .5w and works great with nv.
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Posted: 6/4/2016 11:32:54 PM EDT
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Everything is green at night thru NVD's! We DO have the OTAL's on sale right not at $399.00.
How long is that sale running? Just ordered one from Optics Planet and still waiting for it. Think I might send it back if there's time. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 1:44:36 PM EDT
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I kind of want another one for my MK-18 build that's waiting for a stamp....
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Posted: 6/5/2016 5:42:45 PM EDT
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I kind of want another one for my MK-18 build that's waiting for a stamp.... This time, get the IR. Now you'll have an excuse to get into NOD. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 12:38:59 AM EDT
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This time, get the IR. Now you'll have an excuse to get into NOD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kind of want another one for my MK-18 build that's waiting for a stamp.... This time, get the IR. Now you'll have an excuse to get into NOD. If I had any place or reason to shoot at night, I would love NODs. Just can't justify it |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 8:43:48 AM EDT
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What should I know? Will my gun now vanquish aliens? Go! Edit: corrected thread title So how do you like it? |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 12:58:51 PM EDT
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If I had any place or reason to shoot at night, I would love NODs. Just can't justify it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kind of want another one for my MK-18 build that's waiting for a stamp.... This time, get the IR. Now you'll have an excuse to get into NOD. If I had any place or reason to shoot at night, I would love NODs. Just can't justify it You're in Texas, hogs are everywhere. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 7:02:30 PM EDT
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What should I know? Will my gun now vanquish aliens? Go! Edit: corrected thread title So how do you like it? I like it a lot. Small, light and very bright. It's visible in all but the brightest sunlight. Will use it in a low light class next month, I'm predicting it will be very helpful. Looks great on the Scar too: |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 9:44:51 PM EDT
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I like it a lot. Small, light and very bright. It's visible in all but the brightest sunlight. Will use it in a low light class next month, I'm predicting it will be very helpful. Looks great on the Scar too: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/EB0C81B0-1C35-44DE-86EB-93357A2CFCAC.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What should I know? Will my gun now vanquish aliens? Go! Edit: corrected thread title So how do you like it? I like it a lot. Small, light and very bright. It's visible in all but the brightest sunlight. Will use it in a low light class next month, I'm predicting it will be very helpful. Looks great on the Scar too: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/EB0C81B0-1C35-44DE-86EB-93357A2CFCAC.jpg</a>" /> Very nice! ETA: Put your LAM out front. That way when you press the button, your hand isn't blocking the beam. |
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Posted: 6/7/2016 9:27:30 AM EDT
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Watched Travis Haley's "run a scar like a boss" video and I like his set up so I kind of copied it. Moved the OTAL forward, pressure pad for the light behind it and light on the side. Once my Larue mount gets here I will have the light up and out of the way. Much cleaner setup.
I can hit the light: And laser: |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 12:54:11 AM EDT
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Sweeeet!
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Posted: 6/12/2016 11:06:30 AM EDT
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So your selling it already?
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