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Posted: 7/7/2014 6:54:56 PM EDT
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I bought an M951 new online for $100 and a Malkoff head with ring for $40. Save yourself $100 and you also have a light with a pressure switch.
ETA: having owned the ultra head models, they have a wider throw. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 6:57:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought an M951 new online for $100 and a Malkoff head with ring for $40. Save yourself $100 and you also have a light with a pressure switch. ETA: having owned the ultra head models, they have a wider throw. I'm specifically talking about comparing the m600 ultra scout, and the x300 ultra pistol light. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:03:23 PM EDT
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I'm specifically talking about comparing the m600 ultra scout, and the x300 ultra pistol light. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought an M951 new online for $100 and a Malkoff head with ring for $40. Save yourself $100 and you also have a light with a pressure switch. ETA: having owned the ultra head models, they have a wider throw. I'm specifically talking about comparing the m600 ultra scout, and the x300 ultra pistol light. I understand. I bought the 951 over the M600. Previously had a 500 Lumen P2X Defender Fury which is the same head type as the scout fury. Was going to buy from bhphoto. I had an X300U and may or may not buy another for my m&p. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:06:29 PM EDT
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I'd imagine a big part is that the Scout is 100% aluminum, and has a more robust mounting solution. The X300 might have the same LED and driver combo, but the housing is smaller, and the mounting solution is not aluminum.
Between the two (if money were no object) I'd get the Scout for rifle mounted use. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:07:35 PM EDT
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I understand. I bought the 951 over the M600. Previously had a 500 Lumen P2X Defender Fury which is the same head type as the scout fury. Was going to buy from bhphoto. I had an X300U and may or may not buy another for my m&p. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought an M951 new online for $100 and a Malkoff head with ring for $40. Save yourself $100 and you also have a light with a pressure switch. ETA: having owned the ultra head models, they have a wider throw. I'm specifically talking about comparing the m600 ultra scout, and the x300 ultra pistol light. I understand. I bought the 951 over the M600. Previously had a 500 Lumen P2X Defender Fury which is the same head type as the scout fury. Was going to buy from bhphoto. I had an X300U and may or may not buy another for my m&p. How is any of that relevant to his question? |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:08:26 PM EDT
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I'd imagine a big part is that the Scout is 100% aluminum, and has a more robust mounting solution. The X300 might have the same LED and driver combo, but the housing is smaller, and the mounting solution is not aluminum. Between the two (if money were no object) I'd get the Scout for rifle mounted use. I'm with this guy. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:10:19 PM EDT
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How is any of that relevant to his question? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought an M951 new online for $100 and a Malkoff head with ring for $40. Save yourself $100 and you also have a light with a pressure switch. ETA: having owned the ultra head models, they have a wider throw. I'm specifically talking about comparing the m600 ultra scout, and the x300 ultra pistol light. I understand. I bought the 951 over the M600. Previously had a 500 Lumen P2X Defender Fury which is the same head type as the scout fury. Was going to buy from bhphoto. I had an X300U and may or may not buy another for my m&p. How is any of that relevant to his question? he was asking about heads and beam. i was debating between those two exact lights and have actually owned fury and x300 ultra lights if you read what I posted. was trying to help save him money and still have a kick ass light. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: he was asking about heads and beam. i was debating between those two exact lights and have actually owned fury and x300 ultra lights if you read what I posted. was trying to help save him money and still have a kick ass light. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I bought an M951 new online for $100 and a Malkoff head with ring for $40. Save yourself $100 and you also have a light with a pressure switch. ETA: having owned the ultra head models, they have a wider throw. I'm specifically talking about comparing the m600 ultra scout, and the x300 ultra pistol light. I understand. I bought the 951 over the M600. Previously had a 500 Lumen P2X Defender Fury which is the same head type as the scout fury. Was going to buy from bhphoto. I had an X300U and may or may not buy another for my m&p. How is any of that relevant to his question? he was asking about heads and beam. i was debating between those two exact lights and have actually owned fury and x300 ultra lights if you read what I posted. was trying to help save him money and still have a kick ass light. But I appreciate the attempt to help me out. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm with this guy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd imagine a big part is that the Scout is 100% aluminum, and has a more robust mounting solution. The X300 might have the same LED and driver combo, but the housing is smaller, and the mounting solution is not aluminum. Between the two (if money were no object) I'd get the Scout for rifle mounted use. I'm with this guy. I'm sure aluminium is a stronger mount, but I'm thinking the x300 mount would need to get smashed HARD to fail. Mounting aside, Im still curious if there's any difference in actual output. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:43:29 PM EDT
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Don't the scout lights come with the pressure pad and appropriate tailcap? The XT07 for the X300 Ultra runs around 135 dollars more.
ETA: Makes the price much more comparable, if not more expensive for the X300. As to the light output, I'd imagine they are pretty similar. No real first hand experience with the Scout lights.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:45:47 PM EDT
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I have both (M600U and X300U). The Scout beam is tighter with more throw, and accordingly less spill. It is a great med-long range spotter and is also good for short range. The X300U has less range but greater spill, and has a better beam for very short distances. I prefer the Scout as it penetrates deeper into the shadows if your illuminating into rooms as you walk a hallway. I have no way to measure, but can see how one could say that they both output the same total lumens, but one is spottier and one is floodier. IMHO, the Scout is better for long guns and the X300 is perfect for any rail equipped handgun. For several years I ran a X300 and later X300U at 12 O'clock on a SBR and prefer the Scout due to its more robust mount.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have both (M600U and X300U). The Scout beam is tighter with more throw, and accordingly less spill. It is a great med-long range spotter and is also good for short range. The X300U has less range but greater spill, and has a better beam for very short distances. I prefer the Scout as it penetrates deeper into the shadows if your illuminating into rooms as you walk a hallway. I have no way to measure, but can see how one could say that they both output the same total lumens, but one is spottier and one is floodier. IMHO, the Scout is better for long guns and the X300 is perfect for any rail equipped handgun. For several years I ran a X300 and later X300U at 12 O'clock on a SBR and prefer the Scout due to its more robust mount. http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/calviroman/6933/IMG_20131107_165345_132_zps00e85e66.jpg Yahtzee! This is exactly what I assumed, but thank you for clarifying.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 10:19:46 PM EDT
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I have both (M600U and X300U). The Scout beam is tighter with more throw, and accordingly less spill. It is a great med-long range spotter and is also good for short range. The X300U has less range but greater spill, and has a better beam for very short distances. I prefer the Scout as it penetrates deeper into the shadows if your illuminating into rooms as you walk a hallway. I have no way to measure, but can see how one could say that they both output the same total lumens, but one is spottier and one is floodier. IMHO, the Scout is better for long guns and the X300 is perfect for any rail equipped handgun. For several years I ran a X300 and later X300U at 12 O'clock on a SBR and prefer the Scout due to its more robust mount. <a href="http://s921.photobucket.com/user/calviroman/media/6933/IMG_20131107_165345_132_zps00e85e66.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/calviroman/6933/IMG_20131107_165345_132_zps00e85e66.jpg</a> This was my assumption from what I have read up on both. I have an older M600 but 200lumens is not quite the same as 500. That will change soon though 
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Posted: 7/8/2014 12:12:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was my assumption from what I have read up on both. I have an older M600 but 200lumens is not quite the same as 500. That will change soon though Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have both (M600U and X300U). The Scout beam is tighter with more throw, and accordingly less spill. It is a great med-long range spotter and is also good for short range. The X300U has less range but greater spill, and has a better beam for very short distances. I prefer the Scout as it penetrates deeper into the shadows if your illuminating into rooms as you walk a hallway. I have no way to measure, but can see how one could say that they both output the same total lumens, but one is spottier and one is floodier. IMHO, the Scout is better for long guns and the X300 is perfect for any rail equipped handgun. For several years I ran a X300 and later X300U at 12 O'clock on a SBR and prefer the Scout due to its more robust mount. <a href="http://s921.photobucket.com/user/calviroman/media/6933/IMG_20131107_165345_132_zps00e85e66.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/calviroman/6933/IMG_20131107_165345_132_zps00e85e66.jpg</a> This was my assumption from what I have read up on both. I have an older M600 but 200lumens is not quite the same as 500. That will change soon though |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 2:58:40 PM EDT
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The scout comes with two switches, both are much better then the toggle switch that comes with the x300u. I sold both X300u that I had because the switch would stick on and was not smooth to operate. The pressure switch and push button on the scout is a better system.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 1:00:51 PM EDT
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I have both and IMHO the X300U should be strictly a pistol light. The M600U is definately more robust and doesn't have plastic mounting rails like the X300 does.
I have seen two X300s get ripped off at the range. I do believe there is a company that makes replacement rails with an integrated shield to cover the toggle so you don't have an AD. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 9:24:57 PM EDT
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any updates?
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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:20:47 PM EDT
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I have both and IMHO the X300U should be strictly a pistol light. The M600U is definately more robust and doesn't have plastic mounting rails like the X300 does. I have seen two X300s get ripped off at the range. I do believe there is a company that makes replacement rails with an integrated shield to cover the toggle so you don't have an AD. They do and I destroyed one. 
I agree with the guys above: for carbines the extra throw of the scout is nice. The X300U packs a lot of light but it is floody. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:13:12 PM EDT
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I have both (M600U and X300U). The Scout beam is tighter with more throw, and accordingly less spill. It is a great med-long range spotter and is also good for short range. The X300U has less range but greater spill, and has a better beam for very short distances. I prefer the Scout as it penetrates deeper into the shadows if your illuminating into rooms as you walk a hallway. I have no way to measure, but can see how one could say that they both output the same total lumens, but one is spottier and one is floodier. IMHO, the Scout is better for long guns and the X300 is perfect for any rail equipped handgun. For several years I ran a X300 and later X300U at 12 O'clock on a SBR and prefer the Scout due to its more robust mount. <a href="http://s921.photobucket.com/user/calviroman/media/6933/IMG_20131107_165345_132_zps00e85e66.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/calviroman/6933/IMG_20131107_165345_132_zps00e85e66.jpg</a> Is that an SR02 tape switch? |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 4:31:04 PM EDT
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They do and I destroyed one.
I agree with the guys above: for carbines the extra throw of the scout is nice. The X300U packs a lot of light but it is floody. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have both and IMHO the X300U should be strictly a pistol light. The M600U is definately more robust and doesn't have plastic mounting rails like the X300 does. I have seen two X300s get ripped off at the range. I do believe there is a company that makes replacement rails with an integrated shield to cover the toggle so you don't have an AD. They do and I destroyed one.
I agree with the guys above: for carbines the extra throw of the scout is nice. The X300U packs a lot of light but it is floody. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. The X300 rail mount is plastic and easily broken compared to the Scout mount. Leave the X300U as a pistol light or spend the extra cash to buy the aluminum replacement rails. By the time you buy the rails, replacement battery door and tape switch you could have bought the Scout light. Unity Tactical EXO Surefire XT and SR07 switch $198 (X300U) + 178 (XT & SR07) + $27 (Unity Tactical EXO) = $402 |
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