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Posted: 4/12/2014 9:08:39 PM EDT
I bought a new Colt LE6920 a few days ago and have started the process of selecting a sling. I found a good deal on a Magpul MS3 sling, but would like to find out the best way to attach it to my rifle using the sling mounts that came with my rifle. Is there a way to mount the sling so that it doesn't cause the sling to twist in the mounts to the side when shouldering it. Thanks in advance for any help.
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FWIW, I'm a big fan of Blue Force Gear 2 point slings. They never twist on me. I know some QD mounts don't let push buttons rotate 360 degrees.
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FWIW, I'm a big fan of Blue Force Gear 2 point slings. They never twist on me. I know some QD mounts don't let push buttons rotate 360 degrees. View Quote Same here, this is my favorite http://www.blueforcegear.com/vcas-acetal-sling.html OP if you have a side sling mount on the FSB this will work great. If you only have the under FSB sling mount it'll work but it'll twist/cant the rifle if you use it for support. |
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Recent convert from VTAC mk2 to VCAS slings checking in :)
OP, check out the VCAS two point. You can find them used on the ee for 35 shipped. It's worth a shot. |
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Vcas is my fav on all my sticks now. Had a magpul sling and got rid of it, did not like it.
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I am in the same boat as you, I too just recently acquired a 6920.......... But I never knew that selecting a sling would be so hard, considering the multitudes of the ones out there to choose from.
I really like the Tacticallink sling system, but it is expensive, but seems to be very well made. At first I wanted a single point sling, now I am leaning more towards a more versatile 2 point system. I wanted to go with TacticalLink, but their 2 point sling requires you to have a pic/type rail on your hand guards in order to use their push button release. I want to keep my original hand guards. I then have considered the BDS slings and I am still not ruling out the Israeli sling( a simple but effective design). I believe the main problem I am having is not the rear attachment for the sling, its the front attachment. As said, I don't want to change out my hand guards. So right now its between the Israeli and the BDS--- I plan just to use in both systems a nylon strap with a metal D ring on my buffer tube(which will naturally turn when moving your weapon from one position to the next)....then attach the front point to the sling mount under the barrel(when converting to 2 point). You can also use the nylon D ring strap accessory piece at the front by securing it to the base of the front sight as well or just use the stock sling attachment point that comes with the rifle. the big question is.... how you plan to use your sling...then go from there...... Its another reason why I chose to go with the 2 point system....I really liked that TacticalLink...but you got to have a Pic/Rail system on your hand guards in order to use their push button adapter...and Im sure not spending the extra $$$$$ for hand guards. |
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Another Blue Force Gear convert. I tried one, and it's like eating potato chips.
Replaced 2 Viking Tactics slings with Blue Force 2-point-> http://www.blueforcegear.com/vcas-acetal-sling.html My latest ar got a hybrid -> http://www.blueforcegear.com/vickers-padded-sling-with-actas-as-padding-and-coyote-brown-1-25-webbing.html My shotgun has a Blue Force sling too-> http://www.blueforcegear.com/special-green-sling.html Blue Force Gear is doing something right. Night and day difference over the Viking slings.. |
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Another Blue Force Gear convert. I tried one, and it's like eating potato chips. Replaced 2 Viking Tactics slings with Blue Force 2-point-> http://www.blueforcegear.com/vcas-acetal-sling.html http://www.blueforcegear.com/image/cache/data/VCAS/VCAS-200-OA-BK%20(2)-800x533.jpg My latest ar got a hybrid -> http://www.blueforcegear.com/vickers-padded-sling-with-actas-as-padding-and-coyote-brown-1-25-webbing.html http://www.blueforcegear.com/image/cache/data/SP-0047/Special%20Run-As%20and%20cb%20sling-1-800x533.jpg My shotgun has a Blue Force sling too-> Im curious....how does your Blueforce attach to your M4??? http://www.blueforcegear.com/special-green-sling.html http://www.blueforcegear.com/image/cache/data/Limited%20Edition/Special%20Green%20Sling/St-Patties-day-sling-800x533.jpg Blue Force Gear is doing something right. Night and day difference over the Viking slings.. View Quote |
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I have three different rails. A Centurion C4 carbine cutout, Centurion CMR 14", and a Noveske NSR 16.7".
The C4 uses a Burnsed loop attached to the picatinny rail. The other 2 use QD swivels... This might help you out-> http://www.blueforcegear.com/universal-wire-loop-uwl-3-25.html |
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My 6920 carbine older than 2013 models have the mil-spec side sling mount, with Blue Force Gear Vickers VCAS 2 pt sling with metal adjuster. Colt front tactical sling mount (Mfr Part: SPR6106SVL) A simple way to mount a Magpul sling like the MS1 which doesn't have the QD swivel mount is to mount it on the side sling mount, you could get the mount from Brownells or the Equipment Exchange (cheaper at the EE). If you like to use the QD sling swivel mount Impact Weapons Components makes QD handguard mounts for the M4 handguard and also MOE handguards. http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/category/mount-n-slot/sling-mount/ The rear of the sling it's better just to install it on the sling slot, you just use a buckle at the opposite end of the sling. If you would like to use a QD sling mount with the M4 buttstock, Noveske makes a flush QD sling mount (link below). http://shopnoveske.com/collections/parts/products/flush-qd-sling-mount Ref: http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/tactical-sling-mounts/tactical-sling-mount-front-prod4521.aspx |
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http://oi56.tinypic.com/2ljtao3.jpg My 6920 carbine older than 2013 models have the mil-spec side sling mount, with Blue Force Gear Vickers VCAS 2 pt sling with metal adjuster. View Quote Do you find that the non-padded version works better with your gear? I am ready to pull the trigger on a VCAS 2pt and can't decide if padded would serve me better. Thanks, John |
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Do you find that the non-padded version works better with your gear? I am ready to pull the trigger on a VCAS 2pt and can't decide if padded would serve me better. Thanks, John View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://oi56.tinypic.com/2ljtao3.jpg My 6920 carbine older than 2013 models have the mil-spec side sling mount, with Blue Force Gear Vickers VCAS 2 pt sling with metal adjuster. Do you find that the non-padded version works better with your gear? I am ready to pull the trigger on a VCAS 2pt and can't decide if padded would serve me better. Thanks, John The standard non-padded VCAS sling is fine on my 9.5 lb with 30rd loaded mag rig, I also have a padded VCAS sling which I mainly use on my heavier 11+ lb precision carbine. If I'm carrying my carbine for a long time or hiking I use my padded sling, if your use of your sling is same as me I would recommend get both. If you're sensitive of the weight of your carbine maybe get the padded version first, they're very comfortable to use. |
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Thank you sir, padded it is for the "First". At sixty the back isn't what it used to be.
Dang "Old Timer's", I meant to edit the previous post. |
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Another vote for the Blue Force Gear Vickers Sling. I had a MS3 and was taking a carbine class. I used it the first day and was talking to one of the instructors. My problem was adjusting the MS3. He let me borrow his Blue Force Gear Vickers sling and I was sold after a day of use. It'll be going on the other rifles that get slings.
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Any thoughts on the major differences between the VTAC sling and the Vickers?
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Ordered a VCAS 2pt Padded OA sling along with the Molded Burnsed Socket last night late. I got confirmation this morning that they have shipped, damn fine service.
Vicker's VCAS OA 2pt Sling Molded Burnsed Socket |
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Any thoughts on the major differences between the VTAC sling and the Vickers? View Quote My VTAC sling is a LaRue Tactical version which is the same as a padded VTAC except the LaRue have a built-in QD swivels (sewn in front heavy duty push button QD sling swivels) and a side release quick release buckle. The major difference of these two slings are the adjustment sliders, the VTAC when tightened will stay snug and won't loosen even if you jump around, the Vickers VCAS the adjustment are not designed to be tight and will loosen, but it is very easy to tighten and loosen quickly. Another difference are the webbing itself, the VTAC are narrower 1" wide and the material is softer and thinner than the Vickers, the Vickers are 1.25" wide webbing and thicker, stiffer and coarser similar to the issued USGI silent slings. If you use your sling to keep your weapon snug to the body while using your hands, hiking, running, climbing, I would highly recommend the VTAC sling. If you don't do any of those noted things and just wanted a loose sling to retain your weapon while using your sidearm, I would recommend the Vickers VCAS sling. |
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Ordered a VCAS 2pt Padded OA sling along with the Molded Burnsed Socket last night late. I got confirmation this morning that they have shipped, damn fine service. Vicker's VCAS OA 2pt Sling Molded Burnsed Socket View Quote Congrats in advance, you'll like it when you get it, they're one of the most popular slings around. But if you don't like it, you will be just like us with a box full of unwanted and unused slings. |
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Congrats in advance, you'll like it when you get it, they're one of the most popular slings around. But if you don't like it, you will be just like us with a box full of unwanted and unused slings. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ordered a VCAS 2pt Padded OA sling along with the Molded Burnsed Socket last night late. I got confirmation this morning that they have shipped, damn fine service. Vicker's VCAS OA 2pt Sling Molded Burnsed Socket Congrats in advance, you'll like it when you get it, they're one of the most popular slings around. But if you don't like it, you will be just like us with a box full of unwanted and unused slings. I looked up the word "Enabler" in the dictionary and it said, "See Alpha-Romeo3's posts on ar15.com". Thanks again for your help, I should have my new sling Thursday. |
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My VTAC sling is a LaRue Tactical version which is the same as a padded VTAC except the LaRue have a built-in QD swivels (sewn in front heavy duty push button QD sling swivels) and a side release quick release buckle. The major difference of these two slings are the adjustment sliders, the VTAC when tightened will stay snug and won't loosen even if you jump around, the Vickers VCAS the adjustment are not designed to be tight and will loosen, but it is very easy to tighten and loosen quickly. Another difference are the webbing itself, the VTAC are narrower 1" wide and the material is softer and thinner than the Vickers, the Vickers are 1.25" wide webbing and thicker, stiffer and coarser similar to the issued USGI silent slings. If you use your sling to keep your weapon snug to the body while using your hands, hiking, running, climbing, I would highly recommend the VTAC sling. If you don't do any of those noted things and just wanted a loose sling to retain your weapon while using your sidearm, I would recommend the Vickers VCAS sling. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any thoughts on the major differences between the VTAC sling and the Vickers? My VTAC sling is a LaRue Tactical version which is the same as a padded VTAC except the LaRue have a built-in QD swivels (sewn in front heavy duty push button QD sling swivels) and a side release quick release buckle. The major difference of these two slings are the adjustment sliders, the VTAC when tightened will stay snug and won't loosen even if you jump around, the Vickers VCAS the adjustment are not designed to be tight and will loosen, but it is very easy to tighten and loosen quickly. Another difference are the webbing itself, the VTAC are narrower 1" wide and the material is softer and thinner than the Vickers, the Vickers are 1.25" wide webbing and thicker, stiffer and coarser similar to the issued USGI silent slings. If you use your sling to keep your weapon snug to the body while using your hands, hiking, running, climbing, I would highly recommend the VTAC sling. If you don't do any of those noted things and just wanted a loose sling to retain your weapon while using your sidearm, I would recommend the Vickers VCAS sling. This was an excellent breakdown! Thanks a lot! |
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The padded VCAS arrived this morning along with the molded Burnsed Socket, what a great piece of kit. The quality of the sling and functionality did not disappoint. The adjustment tang makes for a very smooth operation and the padding feels good. Thank you Alpha-Romeo3 for your pictures, and advice. But since your post I keep thinking that I will need a non-padded version also.
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I own two Vickers Blueforce Padded slings and when I get more Toy money I will buy more Vickers padded slings. I also plan on getting a Blueforce bungee single point sling.
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Quoted: http://oi56.tinypic.com/2ljtao3.jpg My 6920 carbine older than 2013 models have the mil-spec side sling mount, with Blue Force Gear Vickers VCAS 2 pt sling with metal adjuster. http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/p_160000352_1.jpg Colt front tactical sling mount (Mfr Part: SPR6106SVL) A simple way to mount a Magpul sling like the MS1 which doesn't have the QD swivel mount is to mount it on the side sling mount, you could get the mount from Brownells or the Equipment Exchange (cheaper at the EE). If you like to use the QD sling swivel mount Impact Weapons Components makes QD handguard mounts for the M4 handguard and also MOE handguards. http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/category/mount-n-slot/sling-mount/ The rear of the sling it's better just to install it on the sling slot, you just use a buckle at the opposite end of the sling. If you would like to use a QD sling mount with the M4 buttstock, Noveske makes a flush QD sling mount (link below). http://shopnoveske.com/collections/parts/products/flush-qd-sling-mount Ref: http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/tactical-sling-mounts/tactical-sling-mount-front-prod4521.aspx View Quote Very good info. Thanks. |
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taggin this puppy for later since my new Colt will be here tomorrow as well.
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Due to this thread I ordered a Vickers VCAS padded sling and QD mounts for my Colt LE6920. Have to say it its pretty comfy and easily adjustable.
Quick question though. I put the QD mount for the stock on the outside and the mount for the hand guard on the inside. Being a righty the outside is on the left side of the rifle looking at it from the rear and the inside the right. Is this the proper way to mount the sling? EDIT: Guess it wasn't that quick. |
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Due to this thread I ordered a Vickers VCAS padded sling and QD mounts for my Colt LE6920. Have to say it its pretty comfy and easily adjustable. Quick question though. I put the QD mount for the stock on the outside and the mount for the hand guard on the inside. Being a righty the outside is on the left side of the rifle looking at it from the rear and the inside the right. Is this the proper way to mount the sling? EDIT: Guess it wasn't that quick. View Quote I'm also a right hand shooter and the standard way of mounting the VCAS or other two point slings mostly at the left side of the rifle, front and rear of the sling. However some experienced shooters (including myself) prefers to mount the rear of the sling on the right side of the buttstock (see my first picture of my Colt 6920 M4 carbine), the advantage of this way is when you shoot on the weak side (left shoulder), the rear of your sling won't strangle your neck. Another advantage of mounting the rear of the sling to the right side of the buttstock is when you let your weapon down the sling keeps the buttstock from sticking out, so the buttstock is closer to the body. Here's an instructions video link of the VCAS sling which was made by Larry Vickers himself and Blue Force Gear: Blue Force Gear VCAS Shoulder Transitions Live Fire - vid link |
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You are all enablers here
Well I have placed an order for a Vickers 2-point acetate sling.. well about an hour ago and they already sent me a link with a tracking number. That was fast! Can't wait to get it and try on my new 6920. The question I have though - I see people using two options for a rear attachment point - at the "usual" rear-of-the-stock area or by the back end of the receiver (the usual point of attachment for one-point slings). What are the main advantages or purposes of each option? All I can do for now is the former option, until after I installed an optional QD attachment point on the buffer tube, but I am curious about the differences. |
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