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Posted: 5/24/2017 6:35:27 PM EDT
How does Nikon stand up to the test of time with these new scope companies like Vortex, Burris and Primary Arms.  I don't hear much about them anymore.  They use to have decent glass for the average Joe.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:23:18 PM EDT
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 They use to have decent glass for the average Joe.
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They still do.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:18:26 PM EDT
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Really wanting to see more about their new Black Force 1000 line. That 1-4 could be a hit at $399 msrp.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:13:58 PM EDT
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Good glass for the money, durable, really good turrets on the Monarchs, and good free software for their reticles. They're usually heavy.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:46:21 PM EDT
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I would like to see an AR wearing some Nikon hardware if that's possible?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:58:00 PM EDT
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I had a prostaff years ago that wasn't bad for the price.

I have a nikon on my 7-08 x bolt now, but I'm not positive which model. I think it's a buckmasters.  No complaints - it's held zero fine and does well in low light.
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:20:23 PM EDT
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I would like to see an AR wearing some Nikon hardware if that's possible?
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Here's my DPMS GII with a Nikon M-308:
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:51:48 PM EDT
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I have a couple 1-4X Monarch German #4's

I like them

I've had good luck with a similar 3-9x also




Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:56:24 PM EDT
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How does Nikon stand up to the test of time with these new scope companies like Vortex, Burris and Primary Arms.  I don't hear much about them anymore.  They use to have decent glass for the average Joe.
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Burris is not new.  I have some of their scopes that are pushing twenty years old.  I have a few Nikon Monarch scopes.  They are good, but not great.

With most optics, manufacturers have budget, standard, and premium or high end offerings.  So it is with Burris, Vortex and Nikon.  Within comparable lines those three are similar in quality.  Primary Arms does not make their products, but rather contracts with Asian, usually Chinese, manufacturers to make scopes for them to their specification.

Burris is now owned by the same company as the German Steiner optics.  Burris and Vortex have higher end offerings that are better than most of Nikon's offerings, including all but a few Monarch and M series scopes.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 12:05:35 AM EDT
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I have a couple 1-4X Monarch German #4's

I like them

I've had good luck with a similar 3-9x also


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/AR/ar10brownells_zpsjdbgrtzf.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/AR/68_zpsrm0lnzov.jpg
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That looks great.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 12:06:28 AM EDT
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Y'all are gonna make me pull the trigger on an optic before the weekend is out.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 4:20:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/26/2017 9:06:04 PM EDT
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See stuff like this says go ahead and purchase an optic lol.
Link Posted: 5/27/2017 11:28:09 AM EDT
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How does Nikon stand up to the test of time with these new scope companies like Vortex, Burris and Primary Arms.  I don't hear much about them anymore.  They use to have decent glass for the average Joe.
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What power range and budget do you have in mind?

I have more than two dozen, closer to 30 scopes, at any given time, from 8 or 9 different manufacturers ranging from budget friendly to high end.  I tend to look at the particular use, how demanding the use may be (a .22 LR plinker does not need the same scope as a 300 yard max capped turret scope for hunting, as a tactical scope for out to 600, as a target scope for shooting tiny groups at paper), and make the choice based on those factors.

Different companies have models that may excel within a price and use nitch, but not in others..  No one brand is best at everything in all price ranges.  Rigid brand loyalty can cause you to overlook a better choice for a particular use.  Warranty and customer service is also a consideration.
Link Posted: 5/27/2017 6:37:52 PM EDT
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BCM/Spikes 16" SOCOM with a P-223 1.5x4



BCM/Spikes 16" Middy with M-223 2x8, it's a heavy rig



BCM/Spikes 16" carbine with a P-223 3x

I also have a PSA 16" CHF carbine with the Nikon P-223 3x9 on it.
Link Posted: 6/7/2017 6:50:29 PM EDT
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http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/24526570/412587853.jpg

BCM/Spikes 16" SOCOM with a P-223 1.5x4

http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/24526570/411191220.jpg

BCM/Spikes 16" Middy with M-223 2x8, it's a heavy rig

http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL699/3993360/24526570/411576300.jpg

BCM/Spikes 16" carbine with a P-223 3x

I also have a PSA 16" CHF carbine with the Nikon P-223 3x9 on it.
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That's some serious XXX Gun Porn Brother
Link Posted: 6/8/2017 9:23:00 PM EDT
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Good glass for the money, durable, really good turrets on the Monarchs, and good free software for their reticles. They're usually heavy.
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Spot on review.

You'll think it is really good glass until you look through really good glass.  They used to have a bit of a magnification advantage over others, but that has been about five years ago.  I've got several on my rifles of all different calibers and like them a lot.  I've gone to other brands lately for the weight reason.  The guns I'm building are heavy to start with so I'm going light with the glass like Bushnell, and Leupold, but wouldn't hesitate to by a monarch series for another gun.
Link Posted: 6/8/2017 9:34:13 PM EDT
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ALL Nikon scopes carry a lifetime warranty, even their old ones received a retroactive warranty upgrade.
Link Posted: 6/8/2017 9:51:52 PM EDT
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I have 3x9 ProStaff scopes on both of my FALs. I am quite happy with them, especially since I got the second one from Walmart for half price.
Link Posted: 6/8/2017 9:54:29 PM EDT
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I think you're hard pressed to find better quality scopes under $300.    They make good products, I have several of their less expensive models and they do just fine.

Spikes middy, Centurion C4, Magpul gear, and of course, Nikon P223 with the P223 mount
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