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Posted: 2/21/2017 2:01:12 PM EDT
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Just ordered a Red MIL variant from EuroOptic. Talked with the guy over the phone and he helped me a ton. They even had both red reticles in stock. Now the wait. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 2:17:32 PM EDT
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The hyper extension mount is great for the optic.
First focal is awsome. Clean glass. Illumination is good. I have found you need to tune the Illumination quite bit in low to midlight areas to achieve no light blead on areas unwanted. What are peoples opinion of the 4 moa Center cross? |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 6:04:43 PM EDT
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Just ordered a Red MIL variant from EuroOptic. Talked with the guy over the phone and he helped me a ton. They even had both red reticles in stock. Now the wait. Got the same thing. I basically had to phone in to get the discount. Mine arrives tomorrow though. 
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Posted: 2/21/2017 6:15:13 PM EDT
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The hyper extension mount is great for the optic. First focal is awsome. Clean glass. Illumination is good. I have found you need to tune the Illumination quite bit in low to midlight areas to achieve no light blead on areas unwanted. What are peoples opinion of the 4 moa Center cross? Isn't it just 4 MOA Up and down but it's actual thickness just 1 MOA? |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 7:43:07 PM EDT
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Isn't it just 4 MOA Up and down but it's actual thickness just 1 MOA? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The hyper extension mount is great for the optic. First focal is awsome. Clean glass. Illumination is good. I have found you need to tune the Illumination quite bit in low to midlight areas to achieve no light blead on areas unwanted. What are peoples opinion of the 4 moa Center cross? Isn't it just 4 MOA Up and down but it's actual thickness just 1 MOA? https://www.trijicon.com/resources/downloads/AcPwr_8x28_MOA-Seg_Circle_Cross_Reticle_Measurements.pdf https://www.trijicon.com/resources/downloads/AcPwr_8x28_MIL-Seg_Circle_Cross_Reticle_Measurements.pdf |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 8:23:54 PM EDT
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Got my aero mount today
Its a start 
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Posted: 2/21/2017 8:41:44 PM EDT
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Got the same thing. I basically had to phone in to get the discount. Mine arrives tomorrow though. Same same. I called (have gov affiliation), and got a nice discount. Nothing unmatched, but good nobetheless. Mine arrives tonorrow, too, and I bought a Giessele hyper extended mount last week. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 10:23:43 PM EDT
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https://www.trijicon.com/resources/downloads/AcPwr_8x28_MOA-Seg_Circle_Cross_Reticle_Measurements.pdf https://www.trijicon.com/resources/downloads/AcPwr_8x28_MIL-Seg_Circle_Cross_Reticle_Measurements.pdf So YTP is also MOA? If so then the the center cross is .75 MOA |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 10:55:27 PM EDT
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This thread better be flooded with pics soon
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Posted: 2/21/2017 11:12:41 PM EDT
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This thread better be flooded with pics soon Hell, I've got a brand new rifle waiting for this....and a new flash hider. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 12:09:30 AM EDT
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So YTP is also MOA? If so then the the center cross is .75 MOA Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.trijicon.com/resources/downloads/AcPwr_8x28_MOA-Seg_Circle_Cross_Reticle_Measurements.pdf https://www.trijicon.com/resources/downloads/AcPwr_8x28_MIL-Seg_Circle_Cross_Reticle_Measurements.pdf So YTP is also MOA? If so then the the center cross is .75 MOA I believe you are correct that the MOA reticle is .75 MOA in width for the center cross and the MIL reticle is .2 MILs. So for the MOA reticle my understanding is the cross hair vertical and horizontal lines would cover just under .75" at a hundred yards on the target and the MIL reticle lines would cover .72" at 100 yards. This is an area where I would request someone double check my calculations. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 1:00:50 AM EDT
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Going to the outdoor range on Saturday.
If the weathers good that is. I'll try to take some good photos then. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 1:17:11 AM EDT
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Same same. I called (have gov affiliation), and got a nice discount. Nothing unmatched, but good nobetheless. Mine arrives tonorrow, too, and I bought a Giessele hyper extended mount last week. Isn't the discount direct from Triijicon fairly restrictive? Like only for the firearms instructors? I know they're on ProMotive too, but it's not as good of a percentage... Or is there another option? |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 2:31:39 AM EDT
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Isn't the discount direct from Triijicon fairly restrictive? Like only for the firearms instructors? I know they're on ProMotive too, but it's not as good of a percentage... Or is there another option? This isn't up on promotive yet... |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 3:08:54 AM EDT
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This isn't up on promotive yet... |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 7:22:40 AM EDT
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Okay, so the discount he's referring to is the one directly from Trijicon for firearms instructors? Or is there another discount program out there? EuroOptic worked with me on the price. Got me pretty close to Natchez price. I did the math, and when the 1-8 gets on promotive, it'll be around $1250 (30% off MSRP) |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 9:00:24 AM EDT
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This thread better be flooded with pics soon 
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Posted: 2/22/2017 11:31:26 AM EDT
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I may have missed the report, but how is it with two eyes open and co-witness capability?
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Posted: 2/22/2017 12:07:29 PM EDT
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I may have missed the report, but how is it with two eyes open and co-witness capability? Co-witness? The is no co-witness with a magnified optic. Even though it is close to "true 1x" there will always be a little magnification at 1x which cancels out any kind of co-witnessing. This only happens with a RDS. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 1:04:53 PM EDT
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Regarding cowitnessing, it'd be very tough to get irons to cowitness while maintaining proper eye relief. The scope would have to be mounted forward too far in order to have room for the rear sight. Best bet would be use offset irons or an offset red dot.
I picked mine up today and only got a few minutes to check it out. Feels very good, though perhaps a bit bigger than it needs to be on the knobs. Due to the size of the knobs, it's tricky to dial a single click, but they do feel positive. Brightness was hard to state. I got the red MIL reticle, but it's a little overcast today. Setting 9 and 10 were just fine, and 11 should provide decent mid-day in the sun brightness. It won't be searing my retina anytime soon, but it looks to be perfectly workable. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 1:31:42 PM EDT
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It would be more than tough.
Never going to happen would be the right terminology. With most low power variable optics you should be able to get a flip up "backup" iron sight behind them regardless of eye relief. I have owned several and have never not been able to mount a backup sight behind one, but it will not matter how far forward or backward you mount a variable optic it will never never never co- witness with your front sight. Your best option like the above poster said would be to get a set of offset BUIS. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 2:27:54 PM EDT
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I may have missed the report, but how is it with two eyes open and co-witness capability? @5R_milspec Are you meaning BAC (Binding Aiming Concept) where the illuminated reticle super-imposes on one field plane/the target? For example you can leave the front lens cap closed on an aimpoint in darkness(or anytime) as to not emit any signature out the objective lens and with both eyes open the red dot will super-impose on your target allowing you the ability to make hits with ease. Keeping the objective lens closed is actually a great way to train new users of red dot optics on how to keep both eyes open in order to improve their speed and ability with the system. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 3:17:10 PM EDT
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I'm real happy with my Vortex Razor 1x6 for 3Gun.
I can't imagine the Trijicon 1x8 could be any heavier than the Vortex, but my old eyes are needing more magnification at ranges over 300. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 10:27:41 PM EDT
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You can't co witness with a magnified optic, get some troy offset or magpul offset.
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Posted: 2/23/2017 10:01:20 AM EDT
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Mocked up the 1-8 this morning in my Geissele Hyper Extended mount (guess it was 50% off from PA because they only shipped it with 6 of the 8 cap screws ;) contacted Geissele and they're getting it fixed up for me).
What was a nice lightweight 14.5" gun is now a light heavyweight 5.56. I don't have a postal scale, but considering getting one. I like the glass, like the illumination so far (waiting for the sun to come out full force), build quality, etc. I may end up putting this on a 16" lightweight recce, and then putting something like a P4Xi onto the 14.5" gun to maintain some svelteness. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 10:14:46 AM EDT
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Lol there's already 2 of these on the EE.
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Posted: 2/23/2017 12:17:35 PM EDT
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Lol there's already 2 of these on the EE. Paid less for mine, so even if I end up deciding to sell, I'm in good shape :) I doubt I'll sell though. I do like it so far, just need to make sure it's on the right gun. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 12:25:30 PM EDT
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Lol there's already 2 of these on the EE. I noticed that myself, and they're asking practically brand spanking new price for them and they've already been molested and mounted. Anybody that's been following this form also knows that EuroOptic was giving a pretty decent discount for them brand new. One of them already has a chip on the tube and I don't see any kind of price reduction because of that 
I'm sure somebody will take them off their hands.. I may end up being one of them myself because I am itching to try one of these out. The only thing I would be concerned about is that Trijicon will only warranty the original owner. I have a Burris 1-8x28 right now on one of my rifles and the glass on that thing is crystal clear Japanese glass for almost $400 less than the Trijicon, but I haven't looked through one of those yet myself so I can't really compare, but from the sounds of it they are close to the same specs. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 1:40:18 PM EDT
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Lol there's already 2 of these on the EE. not seeing them? |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 2:00:18 PM EDT
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I have a Burris 1-8x28 right now on one of my rifles and the glass on that thing is crystal clear Japanese glass for almost $400 less than the Trijicon, but I haven't looked through one of those yet myself so I can't really compare, but from the sounds of it they are close to the same specs. Is your Burris the FFP or SFP version? I've not seen the FFP version for $850 anywhere. I think the FFP Burris XTR II will be very similar to the Trijicon, but both are much better than the Burris XTR II SFP 1.5-8. I also thought the prices of not only the Trij and Burris, but also the PA Platinum 1-8 were all pretty much equal. I'm not sure I'd get rid of a FFP XTR II for the Trij, but I would with a SFP version. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 3:56:44 PM EDT
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If you shop around you can get the Burris XTR II 1-8 FFP for $750.
I picked mine up on one of those flash sales that ran for a few days. Excellent scope for that money. Still want to put hands on a Trijicon 1-8 though. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 10:50:29 PM EDT
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If you shop around you can get the Burris XTR II 1-8 FFP for $750. I picked mine up on one of those flash sales that ran for a few days. Excellent scope for that money. Still want to put hands on a Trijicon 1-8 though. Where did you get it from for that price? |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 11:07:22 PM EDT
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Is your Burris the FFP or SFP version? I've not seen the FFP version for $850 anywhere. I think the FFP Burris XTR II will be very similar to the Trijicon, but both are much better than the Burris XTR II SFP 1.5-8. I also thought the prices of not only the Trij and Burris, but also the PA Platinum 1-8 were all pretty much equal. I'm not sure I'd get rid of a FFP XTR II for the Trij, but I would with a SFP version. Mine is the FFP version.. Not sure where the other poster picked his up for $750, but that is a smoking deal and he pretty much stole that thing. unless he bought the older 1.5-8x28 version and not the newer one that just came out in 2016? I don't see them anywhere nowadays for any less than $900 everywhere I have looked, and only about 4 or 5 of those places I would trust ordering anything from online. I will say though that the XTR ll 1-8x24 SFP version that I first owned then sold shortly after definitely has a significantly brighter reticle, that is definitely daylight bright. A lot of members here state that anything under 10x doesn't really need to be a FFP, and I tend to agree with them in some aspects, but for the type of reticle that is used in the Burris and Primary Arms platinum series is definitely not a hindrance but an enhancement. The XTR ll 1-8x24 FFP ballistic circle dot that I have now is definitely not daylight bright, but it is bright enough. It does stand out when looking into dark wooded areas and up against snow on a bright sunny day, but I'm not sure if it draws my eye to as quick as something a lot brighter would, so I am kind of on the fence as to whether I'm going to keep it or not. Which is why I've been kind of eyeballing either the Trijicon or the Primary Arms platinum series. From what I've seen in pics and in reviews, the primary arms is definitely daylight bright and brighter than both the Burris 1-8x FFP and Trijicon. |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 11:37:22 PM EDT
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Where did you get it from for that price? Picked up the new 1-8 FFP from dvor.com about two weeks ago. They run specials all the time. Some are great deals and others are better on Amazon. I haven't seen the PA platinum or the Trijicon yet but I'm pretty impressed with the Burris. Especially at that price.  free upload
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:28:15 AM EDT
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Yes that is a smoking deal!
I forgot all about that place I paid $900 for mine that was the cheapest I could find it. I will say that I am really impressed with mine also, just not sure that the reticle is bright enough to my liking. The second focal plane model which was the first one I owned this past fall was definitely daylight bright but a completely different reticle.. I would say it was pretty close to the vortex razor 1-6x reticle. And I want to say that it was just as bright. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Picked up the new 1-8 FFP from dvor.com about two weeks ago. They run specials all the time. Some are great deals and others are better on Amazon. I haven't seen the PA platinum or the Trijicon yet but I'm pretty impressed with the Burris. Especially at that price. free upload |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:05:07 AM EDT
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Picked up the new 1-8 FFP from dvor.com about two weeks ago. They run specials all the time. Some are great deals and others are better on Amazon. I haven't seen the PA platinum or the Trijicon yet but I'm pretty impressed with the Burris. Especially at that price. free upload I remember that sale now....ALMOST jumped on it, but was waiting on the Trijicon. I did try to get some friends at work to pick up the Burris though, so I could have a comparison. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 12:16:17 PM EDT
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The illumination reflects onto the hold overs nd numbers.. The following pick was on a sunny mourning, ponting towards the sun. It was on settings 10 and 11. Over all the Illumination is pretty good. Has anyone else noticed this.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 4:41:14 PM EDT
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Mine does the same, a little illumination reflection of the numbers. Not a deal for me yet. Heard of this issue from Aaron Cowen of Sage Dynamics, too. May be something that's just gonna happen with this scope.
Also, I really didn't like the weight of this AT FIRST. After messing around and handling the rifle nore, I don't think it's as big of a deal. I'd still guess I'm around 9lbs fully loaded, but not sure. That's not bad for a Recce gun. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 5:20:58 PM EDT
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I guess my scope is not a one off with the illumination. Now I have to decide if I'm goin to keep this or trade it in and get the khales 1-6. Trade off of less magnification but save some weight.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 7:59:46 PM EDT
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I guess my scope is not a one off with the illumination. Now I have to decide if I'm goin to keep this or trade it in and get the khales 1-6. Trade off of less magnification but save some weight. I really wanted the Kahles, but it's too far out of my budget. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 1:10:48 PM EDT
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I guess my scope is not a one off with the illumination. Now I have to decide if I'm goin to keep this or trade it in and get the khales 1-6. Trade off of less magnification but save some weight. You should just give it to me instead of trading it in |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 12:01:00 PM EDT
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got tired of waiting on optics planet and cancelled my order
found it elsewhere in stock and should have it next week. |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 12:22:23 PM EDT
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got tired of waiting on optics planet and cancelled my order found it elsewhere in stock and should have it next week. Oh no! Now you did it! Another disappointed with optics planet post here! FG24U's is going to stroke out if he sees another one of these! FG24U cover your eyes!!! Cover your eyeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 1:06:01 PM EDT
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Oh no! Now you did it! Another disappointed with optics planet post here! FG24U's is going to stroke out if he sees another one of these! FG24U cover your eyes!!! Cover your eyeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. im not mad. i own a business so i know the drill.. |
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Posted: 3/6/2017 10:34:27 AM EDT
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Took my 1-8 to the range for the first time yesterday. I didn't really do a real scope test, as the rifle was a new build too, and my focus was on function testing the rifle. Also, I only had access to a 50 yard range.
One issue I came across, which is probably just me, but I could use a little help. The Trijicon 1-8 has fixed parallax, and I'm used to a side focus parallax adjustment with a separate ocular focus. When I got the scope, I went ahead and focused the reticle against a clear blue sky like I normally do for other scopes. However, when I got to the range, the target, 50 yards away, on 8X, looked pretty blurry. Is there any way to fix this? It caused a bit of eye strain as I was trying to make out the edges of the zero target. I could see the bullet holes just fine, but the lines and edges of shapes were blurry. I'm pretty sure that adjusting the ocular lens is the wrong answer. Amy I focusing on the wrong thing? Should I try to force my eyes to focus on the 50 yard target, then match the reticle to it? Will that just make my eyes work harder and screw up other ranges or magnification levels? Thanks! |
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Posted: 3/6/2017 2:11:56 PM EDT
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Focus on the target, not the reticle.
The reticle will appear over the target. YOu could also try dialing the mag down. |
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Posted: 3/6/2017 2:42:12 PM EDT
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mine will be here Wed.
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Posted: 3/6/2017 3:03:59 PM EDT
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Took my 1-8 to the range for the first time yesterday. I didn't really do a real scope test, as the rifle was a new build too, and my focus was on function testing the rifle. Also, I only had access to a 50 yard range. One issue I came across, which is probably just me, but I could use a little help. The Trijicon 1-8 has fixed parallax, and I'm used to a side focus parallax adjustment with a separate ocular focus. When I got the scope, I went ahead and focused the reticle against a clear blue sky like I normally do for other scopes. However, when I got to the range, the target, 50 yards away, on 8X, looked pretty blurry. Is there any way to fix this? It caused a bit of eye strain as I was trying to make out the edges of the zero target. I could see the bullet holes just fine, but the lines and edges of shapes were blurry. I'm pretty sure that adjusting the ocular lens is the wrong answer. Amy I focusing on the wrong thing? Should I try to force my eyes to focus on the 50 yard target, then match the reticle to it? Will that just make my eyes work harder and screw up other ranges or magnification levels? Thanks! When u focus the ocular you can't keep looking through it while focusing or your eyes will keep trying to constantly adjust to just the reticle which will end up making the target image blurry. You need to briefly hold it up to your eye for only a few seconds at a time until the reticle is crisp and stop as soon as it is. What I do is pull it away from my eye and turn 1/8-1/4 turn at a time and repeat until the reticle is crisp. After that you don't do anymore adjustments unless your eyesight gets worse. It's a set it one time and forget it adjustment. Never had a problem this way. Your target should not be blurred. If it still is then you are still adjusting the diopter wrong or there is something wrong with the scope or your eyes. Hope this helps! Good luck. |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 3:17:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/8/2017 3:57:59 PM EDT
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On a 6.8 This is a fantastic optic https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296599/IMG-1704-161620.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296599/IMG-1703-161619.JPG
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