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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:52:19 AM
Just got a set of these and I am thoroughly impressed with them. I was having trouble finding the older polymer MBUS flip ups so when I found the MBUS Pros I snatched them up. I like that they are all steel construction. They are incredibly well built, as is every Magpul product. They fold down nice and low and are quick to deploy. The front sight has a dial for adjustments which is nice. If you are thinking about these don't hesitate.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:56:50 AM
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 10:05:58 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?
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Posted: 9/14/2013 10:20:08 AM
Is the sight picture of the Pro better than the old sights? I couldn't get used to the BUS and was extremely slow with them compared to my DOAs. I've been considering the Pro, but hate to spend money on them to find that I hate the sight picture.

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Posted: 9/14/2013 10:20:56 AM
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?




also sits crooked on the rail

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Posted: 9/14/2013 10:48:20 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Losd:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg

Did you try mounting it like Magpul said? Sorry if you said you did on TOS and I missed it.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 11:41:54 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Losd:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."


Many thanks to whomever anonymously purchased my membership.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:16:24 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By Losd:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."





I disagree. Troy would only be hung from their toes now only because of recent activities not based on product quality. If they didn't have these recent shortcomings, people would still have faith in Troy as a company.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:16:26 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By Losd:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."



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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:19:44 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Medicfrost:


I have two sets enroute to me.


Look forward to your thoughts. At least they are a bit more aesthetically pleasing

Joking aside, I did get rid of the 3 sets of MBUS I had for Troy, but I might throw a couple of these in the bin.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:19:48 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:25:06 PM
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Edward_Tz:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:43:27 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Edward_Tz:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.


I'm extremely happy with my Troy flip-ups. However, they are several years old. Please elaborate on this new Nato clamp and their recent shortcomings. I don't want to recommend anything that has changed in quality and that might suck...
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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:57:18 PM
I though MBUS pro would be my new premium metal buis since Troy changed their battle sight.

I may be mistaken. This new nato stanag clamping spec seems to be a problem.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 1:11:01 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By jmreagan:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Edward_Tz:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.


I'm extremely happy with my Troy flip-ups. However, they are several years old. Please elaborate on this new Nato clamp and their recent shortcomings. I don't want to recommend anything that has changed in quality and that might suck...


There was a change in the clamp design that causes it to seat differently, and can cause some slight canting.

Old design:



New design:

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Posted: 9/14/2013 2:19:54 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Edward_Tz:
Originally Posted By Losd:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg

Did you try mounting it like Magpul said? Sorry if you said you did on TOS and I missed it.


Yeah. The flip up part is still askew
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Posted: 9/14/2013 2:55:28 PM
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Yeah. The flip up part is still askew

But you got the base square to the rail? That happens with KAC sights if you don't look at it while installing.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 2:57:14 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Edward_Tz:
Originally Posted By Losd:
Yeah. The flip up part is still askew

But you got the base square to the rail? That happens with KAC sights if you don't look at it while installing.


I can live with how it sits on the rail. Not perfect but better than those pics
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Posted: 9/14/2013 10:24:29 PM
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Posted: 9/16/2013 2:58:06 PM
We've identified the issue that allowed the mis-aligned holes in the sight arms to slip through. This should be extremely limited, but we're doing 100% check on everything still here and contacting dealers just in case. So far, it's 3 sets total that we've seen out in the wild, and we've got one set out of the over 1000 still here. We're putting in an extra QC measure for this issue, so you shouldn't see any of this moving forward. Anyone who has a sight with a twisted upright can swap them out and we'll have a new sight for you in days. Call CS, and we'll get one on the way. The twisted arm isn't enough to affect function on any that we've seen per se, but it's not right, and we'll make it right.

On the mounting these square on the rail, the same issue that causes the rotated upright can cause offset mounting. However....

On sights that do not have the upright issue, it may be installation method. These are designed with some freedom in the floating clamp to self-center, but if you force the sight forward too hard and hold it while tightening, you can force it to mount askew. This is how many mount accessories, so it's a little departure.

To mount straight:

Open clamp so it slips over top of rail. Gently push sight forward in the slot until it contacts the front of the slot. DO NOT CONTINUE PUSHING FORWARD. Just slide it forward until it touches. (Pushing forward too hard allows the floating clamp to bias back, and you can gouge the rail as well as mount the sight a little crooked.) Now push the sight left as seen from a firing position. (The right "leg" of the clamp is fixed, the left is floating. Pushing left aligns the fixed leg against the rail.) Not too hard, just to get alignment. Now, tighten the dual-drive mounting screw. As it tightens allow the clamp to align itself. Don't force it forward or left, just a little to keep it from wandering is all. The sight will self align as it completes tightening. If it's tightening down crooked, back it off. If it's not aligning properly, let the sight wiggle a little as you tighten and try it that way.

We designed the sight to mount centered even if you just throw it on the rail and tighten it, but we may have outsmarted ourselves, since pushing it forward or forcing it hard to bias it in any direction can make it end up crooked.
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Posted: 9/16/2013 6:37:55 PM
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mines are off too..... been waiting for these forever





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Posted: 9/16/2013 6:57:28 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Bovodo:
mines are off too..... been waiting for these forever

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though your base looks off the part that matters appears to line up nicely with the rail.
I need a couple of the old style clamps for troy folding sights.
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Posted: 9/16/2013 7:30:29 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By Losd:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Losd:
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."





Wrong.

They fucked with a great design, and ruined it, then said "sorry, we like it better this way so you're stuck".

Magpul is fixing an issue that cropped up on a newly released product.

Not even in the same ballpark.
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Posted: 9/22/2013 3:39:29 PM
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I have tried mounting mine 5+ times and even when I hold it straight while tightening the screw as soon as it gets tension the mounts rotates itself crooked.

I tried contacting magpul VIA email but haven't heard anything yet. I will try calling tomorrow.
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Posted: 9/23/2013 10:02:26 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Bmuu:
I have tried mounting mine 5+ times and even when I hold it straight while tightening the screw as soon as it gets tension the mounts rotates itself crooked.

I tried contacting magpul VIA email but haven't heard anything yet. I will try calling tomorrow.


Post back and let us know what they say.....please.
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Posted: 9/23/2013 10:52:58 AM
So do the Pro's lock when they are up?
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