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Posted: 9/14/2013 4:52:19 AM EST
Just got a set of these and I am thoroughly impressed with them. I was having trouble finding the older polymer MBUS flip ups so when I found the MBUS Pros I snatched them up. I like that they are all steel construction. They are incredibly well built, as is every Magpul product. They fold down nice and low and are quick to deploy. The front sight has a dial for adjustments which is nice. If you are thinking about these don't hesitate.

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Link Posted: 9/14/2013 4:56:50 AM EST
unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.

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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.
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I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?
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Is the sight picture of the Pro better than the old sights? I couldn't get used to the BUS and was extremely slow with them compared to my DOAs. I've been considering the Pro, but hate to spend money on them to find that I hate the sight picture.

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I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?
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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?




also sits crooked on the rail


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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg

Did you try mounting it like Magpul said? Sorry if you said you did on TOS and I missed it.

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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."


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If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."



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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."





I disagree. Troy would only be hung from their toes now only because of recent activities not based on product quality. If they didn't have these recent shortcomings, people would still have faith in Troy as a company.
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If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."

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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




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Look forward to your thoughts. At least they are a bit more aesthetically pleasing

Joking aside, I did get rid of the 3 sets of MBUS I had for Troy, but I might throw a couple of these in the bin.

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Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."



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You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.

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You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.
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If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.
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The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.
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If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.


I'm extremely happy with my Troy flip-ups. However, they are several years old. Please elaborate on this new Nato clamp and their recent shortcomings. I don't want to recommend anything that has changed in quality and that might suck...

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I though MBUS pro would be my new premium metal buis since Troy changed their battle sight.

I may be mistaken. This new nato stanag clamping spec seems to be a problem.

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I'm extremely happy with my Troy flip-ups. However, they are several years old. Please elaborate on this new Nato clamp and their recent shortcomings. I don't want to recommend anything that has changed in quality and that might suck...
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If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.


I'm extremely happy with my Troy flip-ups. However, they are several years old. Please elaborate on this new Nato clamp and their recent shortcomings. I don't want to recommend anything that has changed in quality and that might suck...


There was a change in the clamp design that causes it to seat differently, and can cause some slight canting.

Old design:



New design:

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Did you try mounting it like Magpul said? Sorry if you said you did on TOS and I missed it.
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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg

Did you try mounting it like Magpul said? Sorry if you said you did on TOS and I missed it.


Yeah. The flip up part is still askew

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But you got the base square to the rail? That happens with KAC sights if you don't look at it while installing.

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But you got the base square to the rail? That happens with KAC sights if you don't look at it while installing.
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Yeah. The flip up part is still askew

But you got the base square to the rail? That happens with KAC sights if you don't look at it while installing.


I can live with how it sits on the rail. Not perfect but better than those pics

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mines are off too..... been waiting for these forever

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though your base looks off the part that matters appears to line up nicely with the rail.
I need a couple of the old style clamps for troy folding sights.
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If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."



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unfortunately a few of them got through quality control, and are a little off. My rear sight, and a few other peoples rears do not sit true on the rail. Great thing about magpul tho, they are replacing my rear sight for free.


I have two sets enroute to me. How will I know if I got a bad rear sight? Is it obvious right away, or something you notice at the range when your bullet hits the target next to yours?


http://i41.tinypic.com/24myefp.jpg

also sits crooked on the rail

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/9736364351_f8b35c7780_k.jpg
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."





Wrong.

They fucked with a great design, and ruined it, then said "sorry, we like it better this way so you're stuck".

Magpul is fixing an issue that cropped up on a newly released product.

Not even in the same ballpark.

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I have tried mounting mine 5+ times and even when I hold it straight while tightening the screw as soon as it gets tension the mounts rotates itself crooked.

I tried contacting magpul VIA email but haven't heard anything yet. I will try calling tomorrow.

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I have tried mounting mine 5+ times and even when I hold it straight while tightening the screw as soon as it gets tension the mounts rotates itself crooked.

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Post back and let us know what they say.....please.
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So do the Pro's lock when they are up?

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No, they are held in place via heavy tension, though. Honestly, I like the method better than "locking" as there is ZERO movement. They feel the same as KAC's do regarding up/down operation, and use the same mechanism.

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I called magpul. They want me to ship the sights back (on my dime) and wait an unknown period of time and they said they will send a new one. After waiting this long and paying almost $200 for a pair of sights overall I'm not very happy about it.

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I called magpul. They want me to ship the sights back (on my dime) and wait an unknown period of time and they said they will send a new one. After waiting this long and paying almost $200 for a pair of sights overall I'm not very happy about it.
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That sorta sucks....got mine from Primary Arms so maybe thats a better route to take?
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Mine came from primary arms as well. I haven't tried to contact them yet I thought it would be better to call magpul first.

The reason for the unknown ETA is magpul is still working on the issue and haven't made a new batch.

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Marshall has a good rep for treating his customers fairly....and even generously for that matter...

Like you said no doubt Magpul will square things (no pun intended) down the line...but who wants to wait very long?
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Mine came from primary arms as well. I haven't tried to contact them yet I thought it would be better to call magpul first.

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I got a straight replacement.

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Did you send in just the rear sight? to Magpul directly?
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+1

The rep on the phone directly told me that they were aware of the issue and were still working on it so they couldn't give me a date when to expect the new sights.


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No, they are held in place via heavy tension, though. Honestly, I like the method better than "locking" as there is ZERO movement. They feel the same as KAC's do regarding up/down operation, and use the same mechanism.
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So do the Pro's lock when they are up?


No, they are held in place via heavy tension, though. Honestly, I like the method better than "locking" as there is ZERO movement. They feel the same as KAC's do regarding up/down operation, and use the same mechanism.
Excellent. Thanks for the info.

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They sent me a sight with return shipping for the old one. I was the second person to receive a replacement tho, I was lucky.

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There are more than 3, and not just arfcommers. A lot of the people that bought from the first batch. But no worries, magpul is making it right with everyone with a defective rear sight.

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The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.
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If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.


Yup, after finding this out I took Troy off the list. I'm looking at the MBUS Pro for all future builds and possibly to replace a few sets of the Troy's I already own.
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Yup, after finding this out I took Troy off the list. I'm looking at the MBUS Pro for all future builds and possibly to replace a few sets of the Troy's I already own.
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Edward_Tz:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
If any other brand came out with a sight that was crooked (ahem TROY), they would be hung from the ceiling by their toes in this forum. Magpul releases a product that isn't properly made, and everyone just says, "Oh well, customer service will take care of me."




You haven't seen the nato clamp mount on the new Troy sights I guess.


The NATO clamp is the reason I stopped using Troy sights, and I know of at least one major manufacturer that also stopped using them for that reason. Ironically, almost no one noticed they changed it.


Yup, after finding this out I took Troy off the list. I'm looking at the MBUS Pro for all future builds and possibly to replace a few sets of the Troy's I already own.


I didn't know anything was wrong with my nato clamp Troy's until this thread. So I decided to take a look and realized what a big difference there was between my Troy sights and the MBUS Pro:






I had the same fitment issues with my DDM4 and Sig 716 using these nato clamp troy sights. I'll be ditching these for MBUS Pro's right away!

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Are the MBUS Pro sights on Amazon legit? I placed a order from Amazon and am wondering if I should cancel it.

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Originally Posted By chadweasel:
Are the MBUS Pro sights on Amazon legit? I placed a order from Amazon and am wondering if I should cancel it.
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did you get them from optics planet?

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Originally Posted By chadweasel:
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Originally Posted By chadweasel:
Are the MBUS Pro sights on Amazon legit? I placed a order from Amazon and am wondering if I should cancel it.
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http://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Back-Up-Sight-Black/dp/B00F17RTT2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380724734&sr=8-1&keywords=magpul+mbus+pro

Good. Thanks

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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Originally Posted By chadweasel:
Are the MBUS Pro sights on Amazon legit? I placed a order from Amazon and am wondering if I should cancel it.
Real.

http://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Back-Up-Sight-Black/dp/B00F17RTT2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380724734&sr=8-1&keywords=magpul+mbus+pro

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If you are worried just send pics to Magpul, and if they are fake Amazon will refund for free so yea.

Let me know cause I plan to buy a rear my next check.

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If you are worried just send pics to Magpul, and if they are fake Amazon will refund for free so yea.

Let me know cause I plan to buy a rear my next check.
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Originally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Originally Posted By chadweasel:
Are the MBUS Pro sights on Amazon legit? I placed a order from Amazon and am wondering if I should cancel it.
Real.

http://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Back-Up-Sight-Black/dp/B00F17RTT2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380724734&sr=8-1&keywords=magpul+mbus+pro

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If you are worried just send pics to Magpul, and if they are fake Amazon will refund for free so yea.

Let me know cause I plan to buy a rear my next check.

I'll report back when I get them. They haven't shipped yet.

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I finally received an email saying magpul has shipped me a new sight (3 weeks after I ordered my first set) in the email description it says they sent a front sight only. It was my rear sight that is crooked

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I had the same problem, ordered from the first batch and had a crooked rear sight. I called Magpul CS and they sent me a new rear sight along with a return shipping box for the bad one within a week. As far as I can tell this has been most people's experience with Magpul's CS. Quick and painless, thanks Magpul.

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Just got a set off of Amazon. Rear is canted

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Originally Posted By DykmanOR:
Just got a set off of Amazon. Rear is canted
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I bet magpul is hating life right now with all these canted rear sights on the open market.

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