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Posted: 11/19/2012 5:27:58 PM EST
ok so this is the million dollar question i am looking for a cheap long range scope any advice would be great just starting out and looking to hit 500 yds with no problems
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:36:40 PM EST


I don't know what you consider cheap....but you can't go wrong with a Mueller 8-32x44 target dot. It is an awesome scope for under $250.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 5:42:04 PM EST
under 300 is best for me you have this scope? wanting to hit a softball at about 5 to 600

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 7:35:23 PM EST
Cheap and long range usually don't go together very well. Most cheap scopes don't track worth a crap. In LR shooting the most important thing is for your scope to track correctly and to return to zero. Other wise the turrets are useless.

Your three best options are:

The Bushnell Elite Tactical from MIdway 10x (the cheapest get the MIl/ MIl model from midway)

The SWFA SS 10x or 12x (has the best reticle)

The Weaver Grand Slam Tactical 3-10x40 from Midway.

All of these three are good quality scopes made in Japan. Make sure you get something that the turrets match the reticle. All three of these are available in mIl/mil.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 3:46:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By stunt419:
under 300 is best for me you have this scope? wanting to hit a softball at about 5 to 600



Yes, have this scope. I needed a scope for a savage 12 223 and I read nothing but good reviews on it, so I gave it a try.

- The glass is super clear for the price range
- it holds zero no problem
- the cross hairs and dot are small enough not obstruct pinpoint shots
- The turrets and side focus are smooth and positive to operate
- picture is still clear on full zoom

I pick flies off paper @ 100 yards using it....so a golfball is very doable at the range you specified as long as your gun is capable and you are able.

The other scopes mentioned are very nice choices too and are worth looking into as well.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:01:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:30:58 AM EST
Has anyone seen/used the Nikon M-308 4-16x42 BDC800?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:37:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By Grimjaw5:
Has anyone seen/used the Nikon M-308 4-16x42 BDC800?


I haven't used that one but I assume it's very similar to the M223 BDC600. That one I do have and it's a great scope. I doubt better glass can be had for the money.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:18:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 1:26:26 PM EST by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:40:43 PM EST
"Cheap long range scope???"



No such thing...
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:50:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 1:51:31 PM EST by wildearp]


That scope looks pretty sweet.

Do you have anything with 1MOA elevation clicks and 1/2MOA windage? Does anyone but Leupold? I ask, because I need something like this for a couple rimfires.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:20:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 9:54:29 PM EST
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST POWER RANGE TO GET TO SEE VERY ACCURATE AT 500YDS
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 5:43:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By stunt419:
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST POWER RANGE TO GET TO SEE VERY ACCURATE AT 500YDS


10x
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 6:13:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 9:51:57 AM EST
The Nikon Monarchs have great glass for the pricepoint, but the BDC reticle is way too thick for smaller targets at distance. I have a 5-20 BDC, and the glass is really clear.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 12:23:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/22/2012 12:24:53 PM EST by RFutch]
Originally Posted By wildearp:

Originally Posted By stunt419:
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST POWER RANGE TO GET TO SEE VERY ACCURATE AT 500YDS


10x



+1
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 12:59:24 PM EST
I just picked up a Primary Arms 4-14x and love it. I have it on a Rem 700 in 308 and that is one awesome scope. Only have access to a 300yard range now, but after getting this scope Im looking for a longer range now.

I have several P.A. scopes and have had zero issues.
Link Posted: 11/25/2012 2:36:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By stunt419:
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST POWER RANGE TO GET TO SEE VERY ACCURATE AT 500YDS


I would give Primary Arms a try, the scope I got off of them has seen some rough hunting detail so far this season and hasn't fogged or been off zero once.

Are you capable of a 500 yard shot? I consider myself a good shooter and 300 requires a good bit of discipline for me to make good groups.

Most guys that go out past 300 tend to get really high dollar optics because you can't sacrifice glass clarity at that range.
Link Posted: 11/25/2012 4:13:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
Originally Posted By stunt419:
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST POWER RANGE TO GET TO SEE VERY ACCURATE AT 500YDS


I would give Primary Arms a try, the scope I got off of them has seen some rough hunting detail so far this season and hasn't fogged or been off zero once.

Are you capable of a 500 yard shot? I consider myself a good shooter and 300 requires a good bit of discipline for me to make good groups.

Most guys that go out past 300 tend to get really high dollar optics because you can't sacrifice glass clarity at that range.


Not exactly. Yes the glass will be better but that's just part of it. The scope needs to return to zero and track accurately to be good for LR shooting. Almost any budget scope will hold zero and not fog. When you start dialing those turrets is where you see the quality. The fit, finish, features, durability, and quality of construction also get better with higher dollar scopes. The thing you have to decide for yourself is what is good enough for you. It's the law of diminishing returns.
Link Posted: 11/25/2012 5:23:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/25/2012 5:27:32 AM EST by DonFlynn]


Interesting, what size Butler Creek flip up's would that use. I was thinking of something for my next AR build and want a varible power scope down the road. Also, what mount is that in the pictures you posted
Link Posted: 11/25/2012 6:20:18 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/26/2012 9:56:56 AM EST
i have been looking at the primary arms scope that was posted and it looks really great i think i will be getting it are the turrets resettable
Link Posted: 11/26/2012 9:59:58 AM EST
Mueller Optics 8-32x44mm also would this be a better scope than the primary arms scope that was listed above
Link Posted: 11/26/2012 10:57:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/26/2012 10:59:31 AM EST by CSM]
Link Posted: 11/26/2012 11:04:29 AM EST
I've got a Nikon M223 4-12x with BDC 600, and it's a real solid optic for the price.
Link Posted: 11/28/2012 6:04:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By stunt419:
ok so this is the million dollar question i am looking for a cheap long range scope any advice would be great just starting out and looking to hit 500 yds with no problems

Youll find it in a box next to a unicorn.... It doesn't work like that unfortunately.

You can have quality/dependibilty, accuracy or cheap. Pick two.

the correct answer for almost everyone is buy once cry once.
Link Posted: 11/28/2012 2:52:11 PM EST
I don't know how they do at long distance, but they're not too expensive. Burris is offering a $50 rebate on their E1 series of Fullfield scopes. I ordered this one with lighted reticle, but it isn't here yet. I do own a few Burris scopes and am happy with them. They're in your price range.
Link Posted: 11/28/2012 7:58:29 PM EST
I have been using the primary arms 4-14 ffp mil-mil dope for a month and its a solid optic.

Link Posted: 12/1/2012 9:11:33 AM EST
well i have a few hundred to spend just seeing whats oout there before i buy, would you guys recommend a 6x24 or 8x32.
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