 alank2 
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Posted: 8/7/2012 4:53:37 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I'm thinking that I am going to try the Weaver 1-3x20 on my 16" midlength. The upper is a BCM with a FSB. I've read that this scope has a true 1x and that you can see the FSB through it so I am not sure if I can have some cowitness but that would be great. I currently have a MBUS rear sight. I was thinking about either a Nikon M-223 or a Primary Arms Deluxe sight, not sure if regular or extended. Shouldered, my nose is about 1" behind the CH. Thanks, Alan |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:16:55 PM
I have been looking into getting one of these scopes for awhile now, and if I ever do, it will go in a dnz freedom reaper mount.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:23:18 PM
[Last Edit: 8/8/2012 9:47:00 PM by bybon]
I went with a DNZ Freedom Reaper mount to go with the Weaver 1x3 scope. Together they weight less than one pound. I believe I paid about seventy dollars or so for it fom Midway. Though it is not QD, it has worked well. As far as the FSB not being visible at one power that is not the case. It was too much of a annoyance to me. I shaved the FSB and bought a Rainer Arms FF and put on a MBUS. For me it is a good set-up. Good luck
I want to add that DNZ offers small levers to replace the nuts. This allows the mount to be quickly removed by hand. However, they are pricey. I was surprised that not many have mentioned this mount as a legitimate contender for a low priced quality mount. |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:27:32 PM
Hi,
Originally Posted By bybon:As far as the FSB not being visible at one power that is not the case. It was too much of a annoyance to me. I shaved the FSB and bought a Rainer Arms FF and put on a MBUS. For me it is a good set-up. Good luck
Was it an annoyance at 1x? or do you mean at 3x? I really want to leave the FSB in place. Can you cowitness at 1x? Thanks, Alan |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:29:37 PM
Originally Posted By alank2:
Hi Everyone, I'm thinking that I am going to try the Weaver 1-3x20 on my 16" midlength. The upper is a BCM with a FSB. I've read that this scope has a true 1x and that you can see the FSB through it so I am not sure if I can have some cowitness but that would be great. I currently have a MBUS rear sight. I was thinking about either a Nikon M-223 or a Primary Arms Deluxe sight, not sure if regular or extended. Shouldered, my nose is about 1" behind the CH. Thanks, Alan I have the same scope on the same rifle. I just went with a Burris PEPR and it's a pretty good setup. Good and stout. The FSB is an easily ignorable ghost at 1X and just not ther at 3X. At least for me, anyway. They make a quick-release version these days but I've not seen any need to change it. It doesn't look any sturdier. I also have a Nikon M-223 with the Nikon mount. I don't see the Nikon mount as a bit better than the PEPR. Don't know anything about the PA mounts. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:01:26 PM
[Last Edit: 8/8/2012 12:03:48 PM by ihon]
I had one in a set of Warne ultra high quick detach rings. It worked very well. If I were to do it again, I would get the aluminum AR rings as the steel set I had was pretty heavy. Not to mention the Warne AR aluminum rings are cheaper as well. You can see the front sight, but you have to look for it. As long as you focus on your target, it won't really get in your way.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 6:51:42 PM
"Was it an annoyance at 1x? or do you mean at 3x?
I really want to leave the FSB in place. Can you cowitness at 1x?" I shaved the front sight from a Bravo 14.5 in order to remove the front sight from my view. On one power the sight was too much in the way. At three power, it was a ghostly shadow that I did not like. As far as a co-witness at one, it was pretty close. Good luck. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:30:41 PM
Hi,
Do you guys think the TAC30 is a big step up from the Weaver? How much bigger is it? Thanks, Alan |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:56:05 PM
I took a carbine course this year and met a young man who was using that scope. The glass was bright and the reticle was useful. He had no problems getting headshots from a few yards to one hundred yards. It does weight about double the Weaver though. It is a game of trade-offs.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:24:04 PM
You will not be able to cowitness through the scope. I have been running a similar setup, the FSB is a little annoying at 1x and not visible at 3x.
I like the LaRue mount for the scope, but if I was going to go with something less expensive the PEPR would get my money. The weaver 1-3 is good glass and even better for the price you pay. Get it and see if the FSB bothers you then you can sell the scope and mount and get most if not all your money back. Also Natchezss has the scope on sale delivered for less than every one else that I looked at was asking for the scope before shipping. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:06:30 PM
DNZ makes some good mounts that cost less. No experience with the other ones you listed.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:23:36 PM
If you are concerned about the front sight base you can use a flip up sight . I have had a yankee hill on one of my rifles for 5 years now and it has been perfect . I can run a scope or red dot and not have that thing in my line of sight or pop the scope off , stick a carry handle on and shoot irons until I decide I suck and put the optic back on. this is what it looks like
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Posted: 8/10/2012 2:56:59 PM
Hi,
I don't think the front post will bug me too much, but I can't say for sure until I try it out. I like the Weaver V 1-3x20 because it seems very compact and light, but I've been reading that the TAC30 is a better scope and I'm not sure if it is too big. There seems to be some confusion about what the TAC30 weighs and its length versus the official specs. I keep reading it is 13oz instead of 17oz for example. Given the mounting/shipping costs, the TAC30 in the same mount I'm planning for the V3 is only $90 more... Does anyone have a side by side picture showing both of these scopes next to each other? Thanks, Alan |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 4:35:25 PM
I have not tried a Burris Tac30, but have run a Weaver 1-3x is an excellent scope for the money. It is light, short and the glass is excellent for it's price range.
I ran my Weaver side by side with a Millet DMS-1, Burris AR332, Primary Arms 3x compact, Trijicon TA01 and IOR 2.5-10x. My optics 'test' is to look out my dirty, dust covered window across the street at the neighbors house to read their address number. Their house is 90 yards from mine. In the middle is a street sign with numbers on it. In the middle of the day, there isn't a huge difference in performance between the units. The IOR & Trijicon both are noticably better, but you wonder a bit why they cost 3x-5x the money. Once it starts getting dark, you can really see the difference. The IOR & Trijicon leave everything in the dust, as expected. But surprisingly, the Weaver smoked the Burris, PA and Millet in low light performance, even though it has the smallest lens of the three. I could still see with it a good 20 minutes past when the other three were useful in reading the numbers on the house. |
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