Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel

Log In

A valid email is required.
Password is required.
Site Notices
Basic
  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Posts 240
  • Location USA OH, USA
Offline
Basic
  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Posts 240
  • Location USA OH, USA
Offline
Posted: 9/18/2010 4:56:56 AM EST
As i am on a strick goodie budget, I was looking around the web and came across a made in China replica of the EOTech 552 red/green. has anybody had experience with replicas and would it be worth trying out? if it is junk I wont be out too much. as I don't get to do the ammount of shooting I would like to, It would not get abused too much. any advice/suggestions would be great
Member
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Jul 2006
  • Posts 3803
  • Location USA MI, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Jul 2006
  • Posts 3803
  • Location USA MI, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 5:04:00 AM EST
The primary arms aimpoint clones are way better for around the same price point.
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.

~ Theodore Roosevelt 1858-1919

Basic
  • Joined May 2006
  • Posts 616
  • Location USA MI, USA
Offline
Basic
  • Joined May 2006
  • Posts 616
  • Location USA MI, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 6:16:14 AM EST
I do not own one, but I have seen posts about them here. Complaints are that they are not true Holos, just a conventional red dot made to look like an Eotech, they are not bright enough for outdoor use, don't hold zero, and blink under recoil. Some people have said they are good enough for range use, but personally, I would go with the better reviewed Aimpoint style sight from Primary arms, as stated above.

Primary arms also has a real Aimpoint for $369, or you could cruise the sale boards. If you have your heart set on an Eotech (that's what I use) they can be had for as little as $350 new, and High two-hundreds used.

If you are on a strict budget, but want a good sight, remember that if you spend $90 on a cheap sight, and then spend $400 on a good one a few moths later, you have now spent $490 on a good sight, and have a useless paperweight.
herbicidal maniac
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Aug 2005
  • Posts 3291
  • Location USA WA, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Aug 2005
  • Posts 3291
  • Location USA WA, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 7:05:40 AM EST
Keep an eye on the EE, I've seen EOTech's and Aimpoint's going for as low as $250. They don't last long but they are out there. The Primary Arms Aimpoint clone is a pretty solid alternative as is the Vortex Strikefire. The Strikefire also has a lifetime warranty.
"You are not a dog begging for scraps from your master. You are a citizen being robbed by your servant." Hebrew_Battle_Rifle


"this is ARFCOM you should be gearing up for Iwo Jima" oldschool63
Basic
  • Joined Nov 2008
  • Posts 124
  • Location USA FL, USA
Offline
Basic
  • Joined Nov 2008
  • Posts 124
  • Location USA FL, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 11:54:30 AM EST
Not worth it. I bought one to play with for a project gun I was working on.

It held zero fine, but in any amount of light the reticle washed out badly. It was fine for bench shooting where you could take your time to find the reticle, but for run and gun type competition where you need to be able to pick up the reticle on a moments notice it wasn't suitable.
Tactical Night Vision Company
Avatar
IP
  • Joined Jun 2005
  • Posts 9520
  • Location USA USA
Offline
IP
  • Joined Jun 2005
  • Posts 9520
  • Location USA USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 2:01:21 PM EST
Tactical Night Vision Company - TNVC

2008 Aimpoint New Military Dealer of the Year

www.tnvc.com
(909) 796-7000
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Basic
  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Posts 241
  • Location USA OH, USA
Offline
Basic
  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Posts 241
  • Location USA OH, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 3:38:25 PM EST
Thanks guys, sounds like its not worth the savings. I will just save my pennies and get the real thing.
Member
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Jan 2006
  • Posts 7623
  • Location USA IN, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Jan 2006
  • Posts 7623
  • Location USA IN, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 4:23:00 PM EST
My 552 never missed a beat.
The thing about the cloned Eotech's is they are not holographic. It's like a tradition cheap red dot.
I bought an Aimpoint clone for a .22 once. It held zero ok but the reostadt started loosing settings after the second range trip.
By a used Eotech.
"Better to die for something than live for nothing"
Member
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2008
  • Posts 1958
  • Location USA FL, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2008
  • Posts 1958
  • Location USA FL, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 4:28:58 PM EST
All the real EOTechs I've owned (512 through the XPS series) have worked FLAWLESSLY, and that's on duty rifles as well as personal use. As far as replicas, don't waste your money, they have nothing in common with the real thing except the pirated shape. They use cheap LEDs instead of lasers, most of the LEDs are "secured" by electrical tape, they wash out in average daylight, the glass is drinking glass quality, and most of them either have canted reticles or mount canted on the rail. I've gotten a couple in trades and looked at some friends' ones, so I'm not just parroting what others say.

I would just hammer the EE and other sales sites, and wait for a real one to come along at a price you can afford. With the XPS/EXPS series becoming so popular, a lot of the older ones are showing up at really good prices. If you can't wait, I'd go look at what Primary Arms has to offer. In my experience, very good quality for the price, they work, and are backed-up with service next-to-none.
Throbbing Member
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2000
  • Posts 1892
  • Location USA IL, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2000
  • Posts 1892
  • Location USA IL, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/19/2010 4:22:23 AM EST
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
Real EoTechs shit the bed on a regular basis. Can't imagine a replica would be worth the plastic its made of.


Any opportunity to kick EOTech, huh?

Tactical Night Vision Company
Avatar
IP
  • Joined Jun 2005
  • Posts 9529
  • Location USA USA
Offline
IP
  • Joined Jun 2005
  • Posts 9529
  • Location USA USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/19/2010 9:47:39 AM EST
Tactical Night Vision Company - TNVC

2008 Aimpoint New Military Dealer of the Year

www.tnvc.com
(909) 796-7000
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Member
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Jan 2001
  • Posts 9677
  • Location USA OR, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Jan 2001
  • Posts 9677
  • Location USA OR, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/19/2010 10:32:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2010 10:38:33 AM EST by Mr45auto]
I was a pretty staunch Eotech defender until I had some problems too. My 552 experienced the blinking out in a class about an hour after I turned it on. The new energizer batteries had been in for 2 previous days at the class. The reticle did blink indicating the battery needed changing but to start dying within an hour of that says they need some better power management. My 552 has also been back for repair twice for not being able to come up to full brightness which would cause the reticle to wash out in bright daylight.

I just ordered an aimpoint micro.


For the OP:

I bought a primary arms micro clone to test if I liked the little sights and it has performed very well. I will likely buy a couple more for my range rifles.
Beer me
Throbbing Member
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2000
  • Posts 1896
  • Location USA IL, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2000
  • Posts 1896
  • Location USA IL, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/20/2010 3:42:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
Originally Posted By heavyduty:
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
Real EoTechs shit the bed on a regular basis. Can't imagine a replica would be worth the plastic its made of.


Any opportunity to kick EOTech, huh?



If you have seen what I've seen, you would be singing the same tune. Practically all of SOCOM is fed up with EOTech. If some guys have them and they work fine, good on them. But between EO and Aimpoint, there is no comparison. I know a lot of cops who have them too. They put them on their duty rifles and say they work great. But, their usage and training schedules are far less than they should be and when push comes to shove, they don't hold up. This is even true for SWAT. I'm not bashing cops at all. Just saying most departments don't have the budget to give their officers as much trigger time as they need. When these same cops show up to high-intensity training classes (as in 3x 12-hour days straight), their EOTechs shit the bed. I've seen one EOTech complete a three day carbine class. And that's not to say that a class is anywhere near as intense as the real thing. On the other hand, I've seen one Aimpoint fail in training and that was because it was an original issue Comp M2 from 1997 that had been in service for 11 years.

In police work, this is called "a clue."


Well and good, but what does any of that have to do with the OP's questions about a knockoff sight? If's like answering a question about a Colt with a reply of how shitty your Bushmaster was.

Basic
  • Joined Sep 2006
  • Posts 454
  • Location USA PA, USA
Offline
Basic
  • Joined Sep 2006
  • Posts 454
  • Location USA PA, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/20/2010 4:10:31 AM EST
All he said was the OP should steer clear of fake EOTechs because of problems even with real ones. That's a direct answer to the OP's question. You're the one who started shit.

Originally Posted By heavyduty:
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
Originally Posted By heavyduty:
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
Real EoTechs shit the bed on a regular basis. Can't imagine a replica would be worth the plastic its made of.


Any opportunity to kick EOTech, huh?



If you have seen what I've seen, you would be singing the same tune. Practically all of SOCOM is fed up with EOTech. If some guys have them and they work fine, good on them. But between EO and Aimpoint, there is no comparison. I know a lot of cops who have them too. They put them on their duty rifles and say they work great. But, their usage and training schedules are far less than they should be and when push comes to shove, they don't hold up. This is even true for SWAT. I'm not bashing cops at all. Just saying most departments don't have the budget to give their officers as much trigger time as they need. When these same cops show up to high-intensity training classes (as in 3x 12-hour days straight), their EOTechs shit the bed. I've seen one EOTech complete a three day carbine class. And that's not to say that a class is anywhere near as intense as the real thing. On the other hand, I've seen one Aimpoint fail in training and that was because it was an original issue Comp M2 from 1997 that had been in service for 11 years.

In police work, this is called "a clue."


Well and good, but what does any of that have to do with the OP's questions about a knockoff sight? If's like answering a question about a Colt with a reply of how shitty your Bushmaster was.



Basic
  • Joined Dec 2001
  • Posts 285
  • Location USA PA, USA
Offline
Basic
  • Joined Dec 2001
  • Posts 285
  • Location USA PA, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/20/2010 9:35:06 AM EST
I've heard a rumor that L3 is going to contract out to the Swede's to build the EOtech. This should take care of all the horrible failures.
Sheepdog grand master of samiches!
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Sep 2002
  • Posts 8011
  • Location USA FL, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Sep 2002
  • Posts 8011
  • Location USA FL, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/20/2010 9:45:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By heavyduty:
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
Originally Posted By heavyduty:
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
Real EoTechs shit the bed on a regular basis. Can't imagine a replica would be worth the plastic its made of.


Any opportunity to kick EOTech, huh?



If you have seen what I've seen, you would be singing the same tune. Practically all of SOCOM is fed up with EOTech. If some guys have them and they work fine, good on them. But between EO and Aimpoint, there is no comparison. I know a lot of cops who have them too. They put them on their duty rifles and say they work great. But, their usage and training schedules are far less than they should be and when push comes to shove, they don't hold up. This is even true for SWAT. I'm not bashing cops at all. Just saying most departments don't have the budget to give their officers as much trigger time as they need. When these same cops show up to high-intensity training classes (as in 3x 12-hour days straight), their EOTechs shit the bed. I've seen one EOTech complete a three day carbine class. And that's not to say that a class is anywhere near as intense as the real thing. On the other hand, I've seen one Aimpoint fail in training and that was because it was an original issue Comp M2 from 1997 that had been in service for 11 years.

In police work, this is called "a clue."


Well and good, but what does any of that have to do with the OP's questions about a knockoff sight? If's like answering a question about a Colt with a reply of how shitty your Bushmaster was.



Don't bring Bushmaster into the rant please.
"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything." -Wyatt Earp

All that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.
Moar? MOAR!
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Aug 2007
  • Posts 4398
  • Location USA MI, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Aug 2007
  • Posts 4398
  • Location USA MI, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/20/2010 12:17:51 PM EST
run

replicas


RUN
bloodsport2885:Because if your riflemen can't reach it, your marksman can.if your marksman can't reach it, your sniper can. If your sniper can't reach it, your arty/air can.If they can't reach it then fuck that target.He isn't even worried about you.
Basic
  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Posts 242
  • Location USA OH, USA
Offline
Basic
  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Posts 242
  • Location USA OH, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/20/2010 1:38:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By llamanator:
run

replicas


RUN


Already runnin.

Throbbing Member
Avatar
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2000
  • Posts 1898
  • Location USA IL, USA
Offline
Bronze
  • Joined Nov 2000
  • Posts 1898
  • Location USA IL, USA
Offline
Link Posted: 9/21/2010 4:19:30 AM EST
Originally Posted By pseudosuit:
All he said was the OP should steer clear of fake EOTechs because of problems even with real ones. That's a direct answer to the OP's question. You're the one who started shit.


It's anything but a "a direct answer to the OP's question", and if you don't see that I can't help you.


Basic
  • Joined Jan 1900
  • Posts 0
Offline
Basic
  • Joined Jan 1900
  • Posts 0
Offline
Link Posted: 9/21/2010 6:32:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/21/2010 6:32:54 AM EST by Zhukov]
Thread has gone way off-topic
Top