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Poindexter10thae
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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:39:40 AM
ok, so LaRue has an adjustable QD, ADM has their " Auto Lock" System, and BOBRO has the BLAC whatever it is. I wanted to hear the pros and cons of each and find out everyones opinions on each. Regardless if your opinion doesnt matter.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:52:16 AM
Many including myself will tout LaRue as making the best available kit with the other named companies arguably making equally good products.

What seals the deal on which brand to buy, IMO, is all the generosity that LaRue shows to his customers and most importantly to our boys over in the sandbox.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:54:01 AM
I have 2 Larues (had 4 at one time), have one ADM, and had one Bobro.

Larue - The one to beat. Small, compact levers. Some don't like how it "burnishes" the rail. If it is adjusted incorrectly it could gouge the rail.
ADM - Seems like a good mount. Easy to adjust without tools, but the adjustment is a little coarse. It can go from loose to too tight with the smallest adjustment increment. I have put it on pretty tight and it didn't mark up the rail. Hard to take off if you put it on too tight.
Bobro - Looks sexy Single lever is fast to remove. Nothing to adjust. Leaves no marks. Lever mechanism can be reversed but it sticks out a bit. A spring keeps tension on the rail, but I wonder if spring fatique will set in, loosening it a bit over time.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 8:23:49 AM
Ask Trijicon. They selected Bobro because it was the one that held up the longest to their torture test. They now are selling Bobro with their name on it.

I have all three. They are all good mounts.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 8:27:33 AM
Originally Posted By bw762308:
Larue - Some don't like how it "burnishes" the rail. If it is adjusted incorrectly it could gouge the rail.


Exactly why I am switching to ADM.

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Posted: 2/14/2010 8:41:03 AM
I have Larue mounts on both of my Aimpoint CompM4 optics and my ACOG as well. I have had two ADM mounts in the past and I wasn't impressed at all. They are sloppy in their adjustment. It is easy to do without tools, but the mount can go from too tight, to too loose in just a single turn. Also, when it is on "TIGHT," it is very hard to release. I have never had any BOBRO mounts, but if I ever feel like my Larue mounts start to fail me, (not likely) then I would give BOBRO a try.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 8:47:47 AM
Good Stuff! Please Keep it coming guys, anybody got some pictures to post up for more in depth comparison?
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Posted: 2/14/2010 11:23:43 AM
I've never seen an ADM product worth caring about. Sloppy, and simply put, Larues are similar but oh so much better.

In terms of Larue vs Bobro....

I like the idea of Bobro, but Larue mounts give me vertically split rings and a really nice easy flat spot to line up with my feeler gauges. These two features make mounting and leveling incredibly easy.

Bobro from what I understand is great, but seems like it might be a little more tough to mount up initially, but if I were going to use one optic on two guns, the bobro is definitely the way to go.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 11:34:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Ask Trijicon. They selected Bobro because it was the one that held up the longest to their torture test. They now are selling Bobro with their name on it.

I have all three. They are all good mounts.


First I heard of it, and I'm somewhat "in the know".

The fact is there are old, old alliances you are unaware of, and the accompanying politics that go with those alliances.










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Posted: 2/14/2010 11:45:15 AM
IBTSS.

LaRue for me. Top notch quality. Amazing customer service.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 12:19:34 PM
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Ask Trijicon. They selected Bobro because it was the one that held up the longest to their torture test. They now are selling Bobro with their name on it.

I have all three. They are all good mounts.


First I heard of it, and I'm somewhat "in the know".

The fact is there are old, old alliances you are unaware of, and the accompanying politics that go with those alliances.





There is also the "low bidder" factor.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 12:44:59 PM
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I too am curious about mounting choices for an Aimpoint M4s mainly between the (Larue & Bobro), anyone have any experience with the pros and cons of these two? Seems the Bobro may have a larger contact area on the lever side, but lever profile does stick out a bit further than the Larue cam lock ? Any pics or opinions would be appreciated !
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Posted: 2/14/2010 12:59:07 PM
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Ask Trijicon. They selected Bobro because it was the one that held up the longest to their torture test. They now are selling Bobro with their name on it.

I have all three. They are all good mounts.


First I heard of it, and I'm somewhat "in the know".

The fact is there are old, old alliances you are unaware of, and the accompanying politics that go with those alliances.












Maybe they did it because they can't seem to make the flats on the bottom of their scopes line up with the damn reticles.

Becomes painfully obvious when using one of your mounts , maybe not so much with a bobro.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 12:59:55 PM
LaRue for me. Customer service is over the top; I only wish they would sell their stealth lower seperately and make a 1911

I've seen an improperly adjusted LaRue burnish the rail. I don't have that problem - my optic is match with an upper, so I am rarely removing the mount.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:11:07 PM
Originally Posted By MrPink:
LaRue for me. Customer service is over the top; I only wish they would sell their stealth lower seperately and make a 1911

I've seen an improperly adjusted LaRue burnish the rail
. I don't have that problem - my optic is match with an upper, so I am rarely removing the mount.


Not that I care what my shootin' stick looks like as long as it shoots and holds zero.....But being fair here, this is a VERY true statement.

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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:53:38 PM
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Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By MrPink:
LaRue for me. Customer service is over the top; I only wish they would sell their stealth lower seperately and make a 1911

I've seen an improperly adjusted LaRue burnish the rail
. I don't have that problem - my optic is match with an upper, so I am rarely removing the mount.


Not that I care what my shootin' stick looks like as long as it shoots and holds zero.....But being fair here, this is a VERY true statement.

Vic



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Originally Posted By Iraqninja:
Here are some of my pics. I am nothing too special, just a PSD security contractor in Iraq






"That's gonna leave a mark."

Guys, clamping anything to an aluminum 1913 picatinny rail "marks" it ...

... leave 'em in the safe and by all means, never, ever mount anything to the rails if you want them to stay safe-queen pristine.

Furthermore - loose, flopping, slipping, sliding mounts, moving back and forth with each shot fired, leave all sorts of "marks".



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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:58:10 PM
Point well taken, I don't care about marks the strength of the mount is my only concern.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:06:30 PM
Originally Posted By eric10mm:
Many including myself will tout LaRue as making the best available kit with the other named companies arguably making equally good products.

What seals the deal on which brand to buy, IMO, is all the generosity that LaRue shows to his customers and most importantly to our boys over in the sandbox.


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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:25:52 PM
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By MrPink:
LaRue for me. Customer service is over the top; I only wish they would sell their stealth lower seperately and make a 1911

I've seen an improperly adjusted LaRue burnish the rail
. I don't have that problem - my optic is match with an upper, so I am rarely removing the mount.


Not that I care what my shootin' stick looks like as long as it shoots and holds zero.....But being fair here, this is a VERY true statement.

Vic

"That's gonna leave a mark."

Guys, clamping anything to an aluminum 1913 picatinny rail "marks" it ...

... leave 'em in the safe and by all means, never, ever mount anything to the rails if you want them to stay safe-queen pristine.

Furthermore - loose, flopping, slipping, sliding mounts, moving back and forth with each shot fired, leave all sorts of "marks".



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LOL! Funny shit!

Personally, LaRue is the only thing that goes on my rifle or what I spend my hard earned LES on. With all these technologies and new mount manufacturers out there its good to figure out whatever whiz bang gizmo they are touting their mount to have that makes it better than the best, that being the primary reason for starting this thread.

Mark, I stopped in your shop last time I was on leave, was over in Leander from Round Rock visiting the Kloc residence. Unfortunately, you werent in that particular day. Ill be back in 6 months to buy ya a beer at Taco Cabana and sweet talk you into hookin me up with one of those outstanding stealth lowers with the beutiful engraving of my home state on them

And as always, I need some more kit for both my work tools and the ones at home
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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:44:11 PM
I have an ADM mount for my TR24...nice enough and I like the ability to adjust the levers easily without tools. Unfortunately the height doesn't work for me so I have a GG&G on the way.....

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Posted: 2/14/2010 3:10:29 PM
I have an ADM mount for my T1. While ADM touts thier "no tools needed to adjust", that feature really only is a benefiet if you are moving your optic from one weapon to another. For 90% of us, we will never really do that, and never need that feature. The Larue uses a small wrench to adjust (which is supplied with the mount). This wrench will even fit in a Sopmod/Vltor/Magpul stock tube. Again, not a big deal. Both mounts seem to be great, and while Larue is beloved here on Arfcom, the ADM H1 mount has served me well.

The biggest "pro" of Larue is thier ability to stand behing thier product, and the extra "perks" that come with buying from them.

From all the reviews I have read, at least with the T1 mount, you cant go wrong with any of the makers you have listed.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 5:09:31 PM

Well they say imitation is the sincerest of flattery. If that's true then it's no secret who's mounts those ADM boys prefer. Two of the many examples:



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Posted: 2/14/2010 5:12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By MrPink:
LaRue for me. Customer service is over the top; I only wish they would sell their stealth lower seperately and make a 1911

I've seen an improperly adjusted LaRue burnish the rail
. I don't have that problem - my optic is match with an upper, so I am rarely removing the mount.


Not that I care what my shootin' stick looks like as long as it shoots and holds zero.....But being fair here, this is a VERY true statement.

Vic


http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/cclement45/IMG_0852.jpg


Originally Posted By Iraqninja:
Here are some of my pics. I am nothing too special, just a PSD security contractor in Iraq

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/Hilla/toy4.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/Hilla/helmet5.jpg



"That's gonna leave a mark."

Guys, clamping anything to an aluminum 1913 picatinny rail "marks" it ...

... leave 'em in the safe and by all means, never, ever mount anything to the rails if you want them to stay safe-queen pristine.

Furthermore - loose, flopping, slipping, sliding mounts, moving back and forth with each shot fired, leave all sorts of "marks".



ML


So true, who gives a sh*t if it leaves a marks as long as it works and holds a zero.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 5:13:14 PM
At what point did each mount fail their torture test?

What did the torture test consist of?

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Ask Trijicon. They selected Bobro because it was the one that held up the longest to their torture test. They now are selling Bobro with their name on it.

I have all three. They are all good mounts.


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Posted: 2/14/2010 5:28:21 PM

Originally Posted By mousegunner:
Originally Posted By bw762308:
Larue - Some don't like how it "burnishes" the rail. If it is adjusted incorrectly it could gouge the rail.


Exactly why I am switching to ADM.


Whatever you do, do not shoot that rifle. I hear that ammunition can wear the barrel.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 5:34:37 PM
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By MrPink:
LaRue for me. Customer service is over the top; I only wish they would sell their stealth lower seperately and make a 1911

I've seen an improperly adjusted LaRue burnish the rail
. I don't have that problem - my optic is match with an upper, so I am rarely removing the mount.


Not that I care what my shootin' stick looks like as long as it shoots and holds zero.....But being fair here, this is a VERY true statement.

Vic


http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/cclement45/IMG_0852.jpg


Originally Posted By Iraqninja:
Here are some of my pics. I am nothing too special, just a PSD security contractor in Iraq

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/Hilla/toy4.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/Hilla/helmet5.jpg



"That's gonna leave a mark."

Guys, clamping anything to an aluminum 1913 picatinny rail "marks" it ...

... leave 'em in the safe and by all means, never, ever mount anything to the rails if you want them to stay safe-queen pristine.

Furthermore - loose, flopping, slipping, sliding mounts, moving back and forth with each shot fired, leave all sorts of "marks".



ML


All (no pun intended) marks aside , I'm just astounded how many folks I've seen at some local ranges AND gun shows using a screw driver to pry open a LT mount! Now I've had to use a prying tool with another "mount" out there (now broken) which I do not wish to get into that debate as the OP is only discussing 3 mounts in particular.... But IMHO, NOT much force is or should be needed to close up a mount if designed properly in the first place.

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