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Link Posted: 5/17/2006 8:12:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/17/2006 10:59:47 PM EDT
[#2]
My addition to this good thread:
ASA lower, 16" Heavy (.920" heavy) barreled YHM lightweight FF tubed Flattop with ASA flip up front and ARMS40L rear BUIS.  IOR 1.1-4 in a LaRue SPR 1.93.

Eotech 511 on hand for fast plinking when I want the scope off.....
+1 for absolute cowitness, although I may have a different opinion if I had a fixed, not folding rear BUIS, but then I'd have a standard FSB..........
                                                         
Link Posted: 5/17/2006 11:48:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the thread.  I have been trying to decide whether to mount the optic to the carry handle and use the standard sights as BUIS or to remove the carry handle and go with a flip up BUIS. It seems that most of the examples here are flat tops or have removed the handles.  If my majority use is at the range and plinking any reason o keep the handle?
Link Posted: 5/18/2006 6:07:50 PM EDT
[#4]
It depends on which optic you plan to mount on the handle. Dot style sights for closer in are common on carry handles. The closer the optic is to the barrel the more elevation adjustment you will have.
Link Posted: 5/19/2006 8:03:31 PM EDT
[#5]
I may have missed the solution, but my situation is that I have an EOTech 511, and a Bushmaster A2 rifle.  Is there a way to mount the EOTech on the carry handle?  Should it be mounted on one of those gooseneck mounts that sits forward of the carry handle?  
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Link Posted: 5/23/2006 10:52:21 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I may have missed the solution, but my situation is that I have an EOTech 511, and a Bushmaster A2 rifle.  Is there a way to mount the EOTech on the carry handle?  Should it be mounted on one of those gooseneck mounts that sits forward of the carry handle?  
Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Yes, that would be the best way to mount it on an A2.

ETA: Great thread!!!
Link Posted: 5/24/2006 7:48:02 AM EDT
[#7]
Anyone running a Leupold Mark 4  1.5-5  MR/T  on an 11.5 or 10.5 upper?  
Link Posted: 5/26/2006 2:31:48 PM EDT
[#8]
I'm more interested in the co-witness information than pics of how it would look.  For co-witness purposes all BUISs are the same height, so co-witness depends on the optic and the mount.

So an EOTech using the built-in mount will absolute co-witness?  Then an EOTech on any mount like the LaRue or RRA would be lower 1/3 co-witness?

Aimpoint in ARMS 22M68 w/o spacer is absolute?  With spacer, straight or cantilever is lower 1/3?
GG&G Cantilever is which?  This seems to be the mount cloned by the one included with the SPOT and jackyiscxd's clones.  
Link Posted: 5/26/2006 2:48:20 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I'm more interested in the co-witness information than pics of how it would look.  For co-witness purposes all BUISs are the same height, so co-witness depends on the optic and the mount.

So an EOTech using the built-in mount will absolute co-witness?  Then an EOTech on any mount like the LaRue or RRA would be lower 1/3 co-witness?

Aimpoint in ARMS 22M68 w/o spacer is absolute?  With spacer, straight or cantilever is lower 1/3?
GG&G Cantilever is which?  This seems to be the mount cloned by the one included with the SPOT and jackyiscxd's clones.  



I cant comment on the EOTech because I dont have one.  I do however have the aimpoint and ARMS 22M68 mount and spacer.

Aimpoint in 22M68 mount with the spacer = lower 1/3 cowitness.
Aimpoint in 22M68 mount with out spacer = no cowitness.

I just tried it out, if you dont use the riser (spacer) while mounting on a flattop with the standard "F" front sight block and a Troy BUIS the Aimpoint dot will be too far down on the FSB...no cowitness.

Now if you use the ARMS sleeve (another M1913 rail that mounts on the flattop to give you a slightly higher mounting point) I *think* you can just use the 22M68 mount w/o spacer and you will have a cowitness.

Let me know if that makes any sense.


Link Posted: 5/29/2006 10:45:41 AM EDT
[#10]
Link Posted: 5/29/2006 12:08:25 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
TA01NSN DR / GG&G MAD
img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/gun4.jpg



do you know naybody who actually HAS that mount for the ACOG/Dr?

Grant has it listed but sold out.
Link Posted: 5/29/2006 3:11:51 PM EDT
[#12]
TA55 ACOG in LaRue Tactical LT100 ACOG Mount, Troy flip sights.



Link Posted: 5/30/2006 11:34:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 5/30/2006 2:38:20 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Aimpoint in 22M68 mount with the spacer = lower 1/3 cowitness.
Aimpoint in 22M68 mount with out spacer = no cowitness.

I just tried it out, if you dont use the riser (spacer) while mounting on a flattop with the standard "F" front sight block and a Troy BUIS the Aimpoint dot will be too far down on the FSB...no cowitness.

Now if you use the ARMS sleeve (another M1913 rail that mounts on the flattop to give you a slightly higher mounting point) I *think* you can just use the 22M68 mount w/o spacer and you will have a cowitness.

Let me know if that makes any sense.


Makes perfect sense.  If the rail is higher, like the ARMS#38 sleeve or SIR rail or RAS II hump, then you don't need the spacer.  If the rail is lower, you do.  

I think I saw a mount, maybe jackyiscxd's clone, that came with a thinner spacer too.  Maybe it would absolute co-witness with that.
Link Posted: 6/1/2006 3:28:14 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Trijicon ACOG TA01NSN in a TA-51 ACOG Mount. Also has a JP J-Point red dot backup and JP NSN J-Point Mount.

theconnzzzz.net/photos3/lmts0022.jpg



could you happen to be able to tell me where to get the mount to put the docoptics ontop of the acog?



Snaps, JP Rifles makes that mount. If I remember correctly, it is called the "NSN Mount".
Link Posted: 6/2/2006 12:56:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Man I should of never LOOKED!!


ALOT of GREAT AR15`s and scopes combos
Link Posted: 6/4/2006 3:48:14 PM EDT
[#18]
nice bit of pics thanks guys
Link Posted: 6/6/2006 6:23:10 PM EDT
[#19]
Aimpoint ML3 (2 MOA dot) with Aimpoint 3x mag.  All GG&G hardware.

Link Posted: 6/9/2006 7:36:06 AM EDT
[#20]
As suggested by QUIB... Here are pics of my new Hitec Red dot, cut and pasted from my original posting.

As it turns out - DC Engineering (The manufacturer of the mount) have their offices about 2 miles from my house.  I spoke to the sales engineer and he was very knowegable and willing to discuss any questions I had.  The Scope and mount come with a lifetime warranty.  $245 (including mount).

As recieved, the configuration is: Hitech Red dot w/ military issue mount.  Integrated quick release, guaranteed 1/2 MOA at 100 yards re-zero.  So far it seems like a pretty sweet setup.  Its definately solid.  

Installation was very straight forward.  This mount can be used with either a flat top or an A2 style upper.  For my application, the A2 upper, it was installed in about 2 minutes.  The system uses a Under handle block that attaches to the upper mount and secures with two quick release handles.  The block uses a standard 1 bolt through the handle configuration, and the upper section simply slides on rails.  I'll post some pics later showing this setup.




Heres the web-site for the dot ---> www.rifletech.com/reddot1.htm

So here is the goodness...

Whats in the box with the scope:
http://webpages.charter.net/escher2/dot-1.jpg

The scope itsself as recieved:
http://webpages.charter.net/escher2/dot-2.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/escher2/dot-3.jpg

Here is the scope mounted:

http://webpages.charter.net/escher2/dot-4.jpg

And a close up.  The silver lever actually clicks into the upper, positioning it fore/aft, before you tighten the quick release handles:

http://webpages.charter.net/escher2/dot-5.jpg

View through the dot ( A little dim due to lighting).  In this pic you can see the rails that the upper rides on:
http://webpages.charter.net/escher2/dot-6.jpg
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 1:24:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Will  I be able to use a Aimpoint M2
with a AR 47 .Would the higher caliber
have any adverse effects on the Aimpoint
Thanks

Link Posted: 6/16/2006 2:31:30 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
with a AR 47 .Would the higher caliber
have any adverse effects on the Aimpoint


I think the Army puts them on vehicle-mounted .50s so the 7.62.39? wouldn't faze it a bit.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 10:30:51 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Will  I be able to use a Aimpoint M2
with a AR 47 .Would the higher caliber
have any adverse effects on the Aimpoint
Thanks




i had my m2 on my .50 beowulf for a little while and it worked great with no ill effects
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 11:00:28 AM EDT
[#24]
Thank you Mike_L & eklikwhoa
I just pickied up my M2 Aimpoint
and I am waiting for the Laure mount
and a Troy BUIS from Dennys

Link Posted: 6/17/2006 11:07:53 AM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 11:19:33 AM EDT
[#26]
God's speed to you KevinB
and THANK YOU for your service
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 11:26:23 AM EDT
[#27]
Well I suppose I'd better ad my old singlepoint as I could not see another one there



Taffy
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 3:25:11 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
I've used an M2 Aimpoint on a 12ga 870 -- no problems

img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/ISSAC005.jpg



A brief hijack if I may...

What's the recoil like with that stock? Methinks it's got to be unpleasant.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 9:32:18 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've used an M2 Aimpoint on a 12ga 870 -- no problems

img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/ISSAC005.jpg



A brief hijack if I may...

What's the recoil like with that stock? Methinks it's got to be unpleasant.



among other things
Link Posted: 6/21/2006 1:01:00 AM EDT
[#30]
Thanks for the thread!TAG
Link Posted: 6/21/2006 1:06:11 AM EDT
[#31]
GREAT THREAD!!  

OK a question...I'm interested in setting up a NV scope co-witnessed with an E0Tech or an Aimpoint.  They will be set up on a standard A2 dissapator upper. Any suggestions/pics?
Link Posted: 6/26/2006 10:14:58 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
I've used an M2 Aimpoint on a 12ga 870 -- no problems

img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/ISSAC005.jpg



Holy Crap! I've found my new favorite gun on the planet! Just love my 870s.
Link Posted: 6/27/2006 4:30:15 AM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 6/27/2006 11:48:42 AM EDT
[#34]
KevinB,

Thanks for the idea...I'll take a look that way now instead.

mtnpatriot
Link Posted: 7/4/2006 4:12:42 PM EDT
[#35]
aimpoint in Eotech cantillever mount, eotech rear sight.
jagmanhttp://images12.fotki.com/v201/photos/1/139782/2222886/ColtAR15LEO008-vi.jpg
Link Posted: 7/4/2006 9:15:30 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
aimpoint in Eotech cantillever mount, eotech rear sight.
jagmanimages12.fotki.com/v201/photos/1/139782/2222886/ColtAR15LEO008-vi.jpg


The BUIS and mount appear to be GG&G.
Link Posted: 7/5/2006 3:25:10 PM EDT
[#37]
Anybody have any time behind a Tri power ???
Link Posted: 7/5/2006 8:12:36 PM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 7/9/2006 2:36:56 PM EDT
[#39]
Link Posted: 7/15/2006 5:37:36 AM EDT
[#40]
aint a thing wrong with saving a little money with leapers and ncstar.

Link Posted: 7/26/2006 10:23:48 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
aint a thing wrong with saving a little money with leapers and ncstar.

i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/cqbgod/blured.jpg


you say that now ...but wait till you try a decent optic...those will never be the same.

eotech 551, Larue riser, Lmt buis



Kac sr-15, sr 25 riser with built in 300m buis, leupold scope and badger rings


Link Posted: 8/5/2006 10:00:57 PM EDT
[#42]
sweet post

Just thought of  this section to see what kind of scope I wanted and found this thread....
Link Posted: 8/11/2006 3:04:50 PM EDT
[#43]




Link Posted: 8/16/2006 6:06:09 AM EDT
[#44]
Wow, I'm finding myself stuck on this topic. Great job on this Quib and all who have contributed pics!he
Link Posted: 8/16/2006 9:23:56 AM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 8/17/2006 4:09:44 AM EDT
[#46]
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Link Posted: 8/19/2006 11:24:14 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

trijicon acog ta31 in larue tactical mount and arms#40 with horizon cut apt.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/cfeklikewhoa/superlight/IMG_0164.jpg


Does the Larue tactical mount allow the TA31 to sit higher allowing the #40 to fit under or will one fit under my TA31F using the factory mounts?
Link Posted: 8/29/2006 7:54:11 PM EDT
[#48]
EOTech 512, MaTech BUIS (raised position) on a RRA Entry Tactical. This provides an absolute co-witness.
Link Posted: 8/30/2006 6:23:21 PM EDT
[#49]
QUIB,

Thanks for reposting your pics that started this thread. I'm sure they'll help other newcomers as much as they did me.
Link Posted: 8/30/2006 11:50:25 PM EDT
[#50]
I have a question regarding buying the eotech with either gg&g accucam or larue mount.  What is the purpose of having the quick detach mounts other than being able to quicky attach and detach?  Do they help keep the zero on an eotech where it might otherwise lose the zero if removed without the mount?

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