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Posted: 11/8/2013 9:09:33 PM
nice. I'd like to do that to some also
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Posted: 11/9/2013 1:18:38 AM
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I actually used Duracoat "Magpul Flat Dark Earth" but it doesn't actually match my magpul FDE gear. The color still looks good with my FDE Tavor though. I masked off most of the portion that sits in the gun as well as the feed lips. Removed spring, follower and base plate prior to painting.
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Posted: 11/9/2013 2:03:06 AM
Nice. I'll stick to Gen II since they're available out of the wrap in FDE.
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Posted: 11/9/2013 2:51:24 AM
Black is the strongest plastic they use. Make mine black please.
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Posted: 11/9/2013 8:50:48 AM
Why would color affect the integrity of the plastic?
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Posted: 11/9/2013 12:56:05 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By mediumdaddy:
Why would color affect the integrity of the plastic?


Because different dyes create different chemical structures?
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Posted: 11/9/2013 2:34:22 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By mediumdaddy:
Why would color affect the integrity of the plastic?


It's not like just using food dye
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Posted: 11/10/2013 11:12:36 AM
Contrary to what the others are saying, Magpul's new polymers don't compromise integrity for colors. In fact, I believe that was only an issue on the original Gen 1. At least that's what Magpul said.
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Posted: 11/27/2013 2:29:15 AM
hahahha nice !!!
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Posted: 11/28/2013 6:54:13 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By mediumdaddy:
Why would color affect the integrity of the plastic?


It's not like just using food dye



Any thoughts on the life expectancy of the plastic.. Not talking round count or use but if you were to put some away in a box for the future are they going to become brittle in 20, 50 or 75 years???
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Posted: 12/2/2013 7:27:19 AM
I'm assuming with PMags the dye is an integral part of the polymer and not painted on? Unfortunately, one scratch will reveal the underlying color. Not so when the dye is impregnated in the polymer.

Otherwise, nice and purdy.
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Posted: 12/2/2013 11:19:08 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By mattja:
I'm assuming with PMags the dye is an integral part of the polymer and not painted on? Unfortunately, one scratch will reveal the underlying color. Not so when the dye is impregnated in the polymer.

Otherwise, nice and purdy.


Duracoat has proven to be pretty darn durable in my experience. However, I don't baby my equipment. It gets used. And I don't mind a little color coming off if the mag gets beat up.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 1:52:42 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
Contrary to what the others are saying, Magpul's new polymers don't compromise integrity for colors. In fact, I believe that was only an issue on the original Gen 1. At least that's what Magpul said.


I remember something about the issue of weak plastic being primarily in Magpul's translucent/transparent magazines, which is why they did not release them. The polymer for those would, understandably, be substantially different than opaque mags.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 2:56:18 PM
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I am sure that thermoplastic that Magpul uses includes antioxidants and UV stabilzers regardless of color. Black is naturally UV resistant and typically doesn't require as much colorant vs. lighter colors. More colorant and the carrier used with the colorant means less of the base resin. You may be able to see a very small difference in long-term accelerated life testing, but it is very unlikely that there would ever be a real world difference.

I have black and other colors of Pmags. Just my $.02.
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Posted: 12/25/2013 11:14:50 AM
Correct. Videos of stippling, and pics of dyed FDE Pmags whittled to show depth of dyeing are proof.

[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By mattja:
I'm assuming with PMags the dye is an integral part of the polymer and not painted on? Unfortunately, one scratch will reveal the underlying color. Not so when the dye is impregnated in the polymer.

Otherwise, nice and purdy.

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Posted: 12/30/2013 4:02:11 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
Contrary to what the others are saying, Magpul's new polymers don't compromise integrity for colors. In fact, I believe that was only an issue on the original Gen 1. At least that's what Magpul said.


Without getting into much detail, colors will always affect the part during molding.

Sometimes the difference is too small to detect but other high stress items the difference is measurable.

Black is always the strongest (outside of neutral -nocolor) due to the carbon molecule size.

Dying afterwards and painting does not affect the strength of the part after it is molded.
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Posted: 12/30/2013 6:06:15 AM
Nice.
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Posted: 1/2/2014 1:25:16 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Magpul:
Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
Contrary to what the others are saying, Magpul's new polymers don't compromise integrity for colors. In fact, I believe that was only an issue on the original Gen 1. At least that's what Magpul said.


Without getting into much detail, colors will always affect the part during molding.

Sometimes the difference is too small to detect but other high stress items the difference is measurable.

Black is always the strongest (outside of neutral -nocolor) due to the carbon molecule size.

Dying afterwards and painting does not affect the strength of the part after it is molded.

So FDE M2 PMAG's are weaker?
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Posted: 1/3/2014 4:23:05 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Mike_From_Maine:
Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By mediumdaddy:
Why would color affect the integrity of the plastic?


It's not like just using food dye



Any thoughts on the life expectancy of the plastic.. Not talking round count or use but if you were to put some away in a box for the future are they going to become brittle in 20, 50 or 75 years???


I'm very curious about this as well...
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Posted: 1/3/2014 1:37:35 PM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Mike_From_Maine:
Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By mediumdaddy:
Why would color affect the integrity of the plastic?


It's not like just using food dye



Any thoughts on the life expectancy of the plastic.. Not talking round count or use but if you were to put some away in a box for the future are they going to become brittle in 20, 50 or 75 years???


I know I won't be around in 75 years. 50 is questionable.
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Magpul:
Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
Contrary to what the others are saying, Magpul's new polymers don't compromise integrity for colors. In fact, I believe that was only an issue on the original Gen 1. At least that's what Magpul said.


Without getting into much detail, colors will always affect the part during molding.

Sometimes the difference is too small to detect but other high stress items the difference is measurable.

Black is always the strongest (outside of neutral -nocolor) due to the carbon molecule size.

Dying afterwards and painting does not affect the strength of the part after it is molded.



Weird to see this thread. My engineer wife (no pics pervs) and I were just having this conversation about polymer mags over breakfast. According to her it's a similar reason the old Polaroid instant cameras were never made in some lighter colors even though consumers desired some other cool colors when that product was popular. Lighter colors were less durable (and could also expose the film inside the camera).

Engineers gonna engineer. Glad all you smart people are looking out for the rest of us and are also constantly building better polymers to minimize this issue.

ETA:
Nice paint job on those 30 & 40 rounders.
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Posted: 1/4/2014 2:13:24 PM
I like the trick with the box. I just painted a few and wasted time taping and hanging them off a step ladder. OP's technique is much smarter.
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Posted: 1/5/2014 11:35:39 PM
What duracoat did you use?
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Posted: 1/6/2014 2:03:42 AM
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Swat_dude:
I actually used Duracoat "Magpul Flat Dark Earth" but it doesn't actually match my magpul FDE gear. The color still looks good with my FDE Tavor though. I masked off most of the portion that sits in the gun as well as the feed lips. Removed spring, follower and base plate prior to painting.


FYI, response above...
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Posted: 1/6/2014 10:14:22 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Swat_dude:
Originally Posted By Swat_dude:
I actually used Duracoat "Magpul Flat Dark Earth" but it doesn't actually match my magpul FDE gear. The color still looks good with my FDE Tavor though. I masked off most of the portion that sits in the gun as well as the feed lips. Removed spring, follower and base plate prior to painting.


FYI, response above...


Thank you. Is that an aerosol can or sprayer. Sorry for the new questions. I haven't even thought about doing this to mags.