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Posted: 7/4/2013 4:15:18 AM
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Which brands are specifically good to go?
What is range fodder?
And what should be avoided like the plague?

(I know, everyone is going to say pmag. They are gtg, but I have more than a few, these are just to throw into reserve)
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Posted: 7/4/2013 4:51:10 AM
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IMHO

GTG [Modern]:

Colt
NHMTG
D&H
OKay
Brownells

Known Turds:

Sanchez


Potential Turds:

ASC [improved quality has been discussed here]
- I use their grendel magazines, with a few feeding issues
C-Products [some love them, others not so much, lots of threads debating their quality]
- I have their grendel magazines, and prefer them over ASC
Stoner [just internet rumblings, I own some, but I haven't used them]

just one shooters .02


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Posted: 7/4/2013 7:46:12 AM
Originally Posted By myitinaw:
IMHO

GTG [Modern]:

Colt
NHMTG
D&H
OKay
Brownells

Known Turds:

Sanchez


Potential Turds:

ASC [improved quality has been discussed here]
- I use their grendel magazines, with a few feeding issues
C-Products [some love them, others not so much, lots of threads debating their quality]
- I have their grendel magazines, and prefer them over ASC
Stoner [just internet rumblings, I own some, but I haven't used them]

just one shooters .02




Well put and spot on.

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My Thermolds are tough as nails and 0% failure through lots of rounds.
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Loved the old Colt 20 rounders with the aluminum followers.
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Posted: 7/4/2013 9:56:44 AM
Center makes decent mags, not as nice as Okay but they work.

Pro-mags are trash.
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Posted: 7/4/2013 3:39:26 PM
Originally Posted By AKPatriot42:
My Thermolds are tough as nails and 0% failure through lots of rounds.


But your thermolds never have been and never will be USGI mags as were asked about by the op.
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Posted: 7/4/2013 7:13:40 PM
Originally Posted By bdawg998:
Originally Posted By AKPatriot42:
My Thermolds are tough as nails and 0% failure through lots of rounds.


But your thermolds never have been and never will be USGI mags as were asked about by the op.


This.

Reason I asked about USGI mags is that they are easier to store in bulk.
No ridges on the sides to get caught on other mags, nor to add unneeded bulk.
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Posted: 7/5/2013 12:37:21 AM
Palmetto has 10 packs of D&H 30 rounders w/ magpul followers for $90. Hard to beat that.
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Posted: 7/5/2013 7:58:40 AM
Originally Posted By myitinaw:
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Sanchez


And yet, I have 6 Sanchez mags that work flawlessly.

Even have some Coopers with the 3 spot welds that work great.

Each mag is different I guess.
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Posted: 7/5/2013 10:47:01 PM
Originally Posted By dtgman227:
Palmetto has 10 packs of D&H 30 rounders w/ magpul followers for $90. Hard to beat that.


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This.
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Posted: 7/7/2013 3:51:59 PM
Can someone tell me where Okay Ind mags can be purchased? 'aside from the EE I mean) I've never seen them sold by any dealers???
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Originally Posted By Razorhunter:
Can someone tell me where Okay Ind mags can be purchased? 'aside from the EE I mean) I've never seen them sold by any dealers???


They are somewhat difficult to find as Okay is their Military sales division. They do show up new in the package from time to time.

NHMTG & Colt are both Okay brand.
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Posted: 7/8/2013 9:22:22 AM
USGI Magazines look junky for the most part, but they work extremely well! The brand NHMTG actually sends their mags to Colt who then stamps them with their name if they meet Colt's specs. So when it comes to prices, Colt mags will generally cost you $2-$5 more than NHMTG mags when they are essentially the same exact thing.

All in all I have a few NHMTG and Colt mags and they work extremely well (Especially when upgraded with magpul followers).
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Posted: 7/8/2013 9:49:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Doctor556:
USGI Magazines look junky for the most part, but they work extremely well! The brand NHMTG actually sends their mags to Colt who then stamps them with their name if they meet Colt's specs. So when it comes to prices, Colt mags will generally cost you $2-$5 more than NHMTG mags when they are essentially the same exact thing.

All in all I have a few NHMTG and Colt mags and they work extremely well (Especially when upgraded with magpul followers).


Actually, the stamping occurs during the multi step manufacturing process, NOT after Colt receives them.

And every Colt I've seen has Okay stamped to the inside, not NHMTG.

It appears that Okay Industries sells their magazines to Ronan Corporation who markets them as NHMTG.

BTW, NHMTG is not a current approved supplier to the U.S. Military even though Colt & Okay Industries are.
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Posted: 7/8/2013 4:55:23 PM
I got rid of all my "improved follower" Brownell and Okay after I couldn't get a single one to lock on a closed bolt when loaded to 28-30. After I couldn't get them to lock in my DD, PSA's or Sig's I couldn't justify keeping them and sold them off for what I had picked them up for and got more D&H and NHMTG/Okay USGI with the Magpul green follower.
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Posted: 7/8/2013 5:30:32 PM
Originally Posted By Eagles970:
I got rid of all my "improved follower" Brownell and Okay after I couldn't get a single one to lock on a closed bolt when loaded to 28-30. After I couldn't get them to lock in my DD, PSA's or Sig's I couldn't justify keeping them and sold them off for what I had picked them up for and got more D&H and NHMTG/Okay USGI with the Magpul green follower.


I modify ALLof my Okay mags with Magpul Gen III followers and Magpul Ranger L floorplates.



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Posted: 7/8/2013 6:48:17 PM
Originally Posted By myitinaw:
IMHO

GTG [Modern]:

Colt
NHMTG
D&H
OKay
Brownells

Known Turds:

Sanchez


Potential Turds:

ASC [improved quality has been discussed here]
- I use their grendel magazines, with a few feeding issues
C-Products [some love them, others not so much, lots of threads debating their quality]
- I have their grendel magazines, and prefer them over ASC
Stoner [just internet rumblings, I own some, but I haven't used them]

just one shooters .02




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Posted: 7/9/2013 10:32:37 PM
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Doctor556:
USGI Magazines look junky for the most part, but they work extremely well! The brand NHMTG actually sends their mags to Colt who then stamps them with their name if they meet Colt's specs. So when it comes to prices, Colt mags will generally cost you $2-$5 more than NHMTG mags when they are essentially the same exact thing.

All in all I have a few NHMTG and Colt mags and they work extremely well (Especially when upgraded with magpul followers).


Actually, the stamping occurs during the multi step manufacturing process, NOT after Colt receives them.

And every Colt I've seen has Okay stamped to the inside, not NHMTG.

It appears that Okay Industries sells their magazines to Ronan Corporation who markets them as NHMTG.

BTW, NHMTG is not a current approved supplier to the U.S. Military even though Colt & Okay Industries are.



Okay industries is a metal company that simply cuts metal parts. From there, the mag components are shipped to Colt, NHMTG, and other small companies for assembly and whatnot. I will quote another site that had this discussion: Link here

Here is another AR15.com link that showed the same discussion Link here

So yes, OKAY=NHMTG=Colt But not in the opposite. Okay is just components, NHMTG is a finished mag, Colt is an approved military mag with the Colt name.
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Posted: 7/9/2013 11:26:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Doctor556:
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Doctor556:
USGI Magazines look junky for the most part, but they work extremely well! The brand NHMTG actually sends their mags to Colt who then stamps them with their name if they meet Colt's specs. So when it comes to prices, Colt mags will generally cost you $2-$5 more than NHMTG mags when they are essentially the same exact thing.

All in all I have a few NHMTG and Colt mags and they work extremely well (Especially when upgraded with magpul followers).


Actually, the stamping occurs during the multi step manufacturing process, NOT after Colt receives them.

And every Colt I've seen has Okay stamped to the inside, not NHMTG.

It appears that Okay Industries sells their magazines to Ronan Corporation who markets them as NHMTG.

BTW, NHMTG is not a current approved supplier to the U.S. Military even though Colt & Okay Industries are.



Okay industries is a metal company that simply cuts metal parts. From there, the mag components are shipped to Colt, NHMTG, and other small companies for assembly and whatnot. I will quote another site that had this discussion: Link here

Here is another AR15.com link that showed the same discussion Link here

So yes, OKAY=NHMTG=Colt But not in the opposite. Okay is just components, NHMTG is a finished mag, Colt is an approved military mag with the Colt name.


Frankly, I don't see where in the hell from your links you are reaching that conclusion

Okay Industries manufactures COMPLETE magazines, they even state on their web site they manufacture magazines!

Defense/Firearms Market Experience
Military and firearm manufacturers count on Okay
for repeatable quality and precision.

We manufacture:
• Magazines

• Receivers
• Trigger bars
• Pistol and rifle components
• Ordnance components


NHMTG does NOT supply Colt. Look inside a Colt mag and you will find the Okay stamp. In addition Okay and Colt share the exact same Cage Code, 33710. You will also find some NHMTG mags with the 33710 marking, BUT, NHMTG is not a current approved U.S. Military vendor.
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Posted: 7/10/2013 7:17:00 AM

Originally Posted By Doctor556:
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Doctor556:
USGI Magazines look junky for the most part, but they work extremely well! The brand NHMTG actually sends their mags to Colt who then stamps them with their name if they meet Colt's specs. So when it comes to prices, Colt mags will generally cost you $2-$5 more than NHMTG mags when they are essentially the same exact thing.

All in all I have a few NHMTG and Colt mags and they work extremely well (Especially when upgraded with magpul followers).


Actually, the stamping occurs during the multi step manufacturing process, NOT after Colt receives them.

And every Colt I've seen has Okay stamped to the inside, not NHMTG.

It appears that Okay Industries sells their magazines to Ronan Corporation who markets them as NHMTG.

BTW, NHMTG is not a current approved supplier to the U.S. Military even though Colt & Okay Industries are.



Okay industries is a metal company that simply cuts metal parts. From there, the mag components are shipped to Colt, NHMTG, and other small companies for assembly and whatnot. I will quote another site that had this discussion: Link here

Here is another AR15.com link that showed the same discussion Link here

So yes, OKAY=NHMTG=Colt But not in the opposite. Okay is just components, NHMTG is a finished mag, Colt is an approved military mag with the Colt name.

Stop spreading misinformation. Nowhere in those links does it support your claim at all.
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Posted: 7/10/2013 9:52:30 AM
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Doctor556:
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Doctor556:
USGI Magazines look junky for the most part, but they work extremely well! The brand NHMTG actually sends their mags to Colt who then stamps them with their name if they meet Colt's specs. So when it comes to prices, Colt mags will generally cost you $2-$5 more than NHMTG mags when they are essentially the same exact thing.

All in all I have a few NHMTG and Colt mags and they work extremely well (Especially when upgraded with magpul followers).


Actually, the stamping occurs during the multi step manufacturing process, NOT after Colt receives them.

And every Colt I've seen has Okay stamped to the inside, not NHMTG.

It appears that Okay Industries sells their magazines to Ronan Corporation who markets them as NHMTG.

BTW, NHMTG is not a current approved supplier to the U.S. Military even though Colt & Okay Industries are.



Okay industries is a metal company that simply cuts metal parts. From there, the mag components are shipped to Colt, NHMTG, and other small companies for assembly and whatnot. I will quote another site that had this discussion: Link here

Here is another AR15.com link that showed the same discussion Link here

So yes, OKAY=NHMTG=Colt But not in the opposite. Okay is just components, NHMTG is a finished mag, Colt is an approved military mag with the Colt name.


Frankly, I don't see where in the hell from your links you are reaching that conclusion

Okay Industries manufactures COMPLETE magazines, they even state on their web site they manufacture magazines!

Defense/Firearms Market Experience
Military and firearm manufacturers count on Okay
for repeatable quality and precision.

We manufacture:
• Magazines

• Receivers
• Trigger bars
• Pistol and rifle components
• Ordnance components


NHMTG does NOT supply Colt. Look inside a Colt mag and you will find the Okay stamp. In addition Okay and Colt share the exact same Cage Code, 33710. You will also find some NHMTG mags with the 33710 marking, BUT, NHMTG is not a current approved U.S. Military vendor.


In the link to AR15.com that I previously shared (Link)

A quote from rob78, "They're [COLT magazines are] made by Okay Ind. which I understand makes NHMTG (one of the best GI mags IMO).

You pay a premium for the meaningless pony. I say pass and pick up NHMTG, OKay, CProducts, D&H for half the cost.

ETA: Never used Bravo Co. mags so I can't comment on them."

Here is the NHMTG mag site where they give minimal information on the magazines

Here is a AR15 forum where they talk about the history of NHMTG

All in all, what do you see?
Okay mags provides material for Colt (which we agree on) and NHMTG. This means that they are the same thing, only one is cheaper and does not have a horse on it.


I did not try to come off as a jerk, I was telling you all what I understood and facts point to be true.
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Posted: 7/12/2013 3:58:48 PM
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Stoner [just internet rumblings, I own some, but I haven't used them]


AR Stoner is a house brand for MidwayUSA. Used to be made by C-Products - have no idea these days.

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Posted: 7/24/2013 9:10:46 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By dtgman227:
Palmetto has 10 packs of D&H 30 rounders w/ magpul followers for $90. Hard to beat that.


I've always been a p-mag or Troy Battlemag guy but since I was placing an order with PSA anyways, I had to add this to my cart. After the last scare, I figured that I might as well stock up.
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I like the Brownells "Tactical" 30rd mags with CS springs and Magpul followers. I think they run around $13 each on the website. I usually stick to branded mags from reputable companies like BCM, DSG and Brownells. Nice to know if you get a turd the company will make good on it.

I avoid used USGI mags unless I can get them dirt cheap. You never know what type of use and/or abuse the mags have taken and its usually cheaper to buy a new mag from BCM ect than to rebuild a used one.
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Posted: 7/27/2013 12:43:19 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By klutz347:
Originally Posted By myitinaw:
Known Turds:

Sanchez


And yet, I have 6 Sanchez mags that work flawlessly.

Even have some Coopers with the 3 spot welds that work great.

Each mag is different I guess.



My Sanchez never gave me an issue. They are good to go
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