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Posted: 5/18/2012 10:43:42 PM

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I've got $100 to spend on mags. It can either be 10 D&H GI mags or 7 PMAGS. What say the masters? Which way should I go.

Current inventory is 4-5 PMAGS, one 20 round PMAG, and a Troy battlemag.
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Posted: 5/18/2012 10:55:33 PM
Originally Posted By boomhower1820:
I've got $100 to spend on mags. It can either be 10 D&H GI mags or 7 PMAGS. What say the masters? Which way should I go.

Current inventory is 4-5 PMAGS, one 20 round PMAG, and a Troy battlemag.



There are no masters here, only those who like to bicker over Aluminum or Polymer magazines.

Do you like your PMAGs? Have you ever used Aluminum mags? If you like your PMAGs and aren't looking to be a hoarder, I'd say just stick with them. If you're looking to have a decent stash, or round out a collection, go with the D&H. Truthfully, you can't go wrong with either though I'm sure someone will come along to correct me shortly.
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Posted: 5/18/2012 10:58:05 PM
Pmags are nice, but I still have more faith in USGI for some reason. Given the scenario you described, I would opt for the 10 USGI. But, that's just me.

My ridiculously large mag collection consists of ~80% aluminum and 20% polymer.
Disclaimer: This is only my personal opinion, and you know what they say about those.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 12:53:30 AM
Buy the 10 . You need some volume in your mag stash . I would almost say troll the EE for some nice used mags . I finally got up to slut and still have a way to go to mag whore
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Posted: 5/19/2012 7:20:59 AM
2 USGI (with magpul follower) to 1 P-mag is a good ratio.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 7:33:03 AM
Nope, never used GI mags which is one of the big reasons I was looking at them. The other is volume.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 9:52:28 AM
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_17/573317_Big_Army_says_no_more_PMAGs.html

You might read this thread. However, like so much of what is said here, you gotta apply the BS test to every post and ask yourself "Does this sound reasonable?"

The only thing In that whole thread I'm really sure of is that PMags can be difficult to get out of MOLLE pouches. That bump around the floorplate gets in the way.

I own aluminum, stainless steel, and plastic magazines, made by numerous companies. And as I buy more, I continue to buy diverse types. Metal is noisy, plastic is quieter, SS is heavier than aluminum, but seems stronger and feels very substantial in my hand, I like the feel of polymer more than metal. All work well.

There isn't any right answer. It's like asking "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

Try everything, and get what you like.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 10:02:06 AM
I'm good to go w D & H .

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Posted: 5/19/2012 11:43:23 AM
The following is a confession from a person who previously saw no need to spend the extra coin on Pmags. I sold off my old collection of assorted USGI's, some pre bans, some orelites, and a good number of Cproducts awhile back. I restocked with teflon D&H w/ Magpul followers as I found them on sale for between $7.50 and $8.50 ea. I have not tested all 250 of them, but every one I have tried to date has been flawless. Then about a month ago, I started practicing in earnest for my upcoming night vision carbine/pistol course. It was suggested that we be proficient at mag swaps in the dark, and as I practiced for speed, I found I was having mags hanging up in the magwell when in a hurry, and not presenting the mag perfectly. Some were good, some were sticky, and some were worse than others. I found that the stickyer mags had some sharp edges around the corners and edges of the feed lips, and on the spotwelded seam on the back of the mag. After quite a bit of time with a piece of fine emory cloth my mags were slicker, but still not perfect. I was making an order for some other stuff I wanted, so I had them throw 3 Pmags in as well.

I am happy to report that all 3 slip into the magwell like butter. They slap into place from just about any angle. I am not one of the folks who get on these threads and argue PMAG, NO, GI, NO, PMAG, But I have not seen what made the Pmags worth nearly 2X the price of a good GI. Take my post for whatever it is worth to you. YMMV considerably.

I just did an experimental order of 10 Pmags from a company who shall remain nameless, (but rhymes with mobach racktical) for black windowless mags @ $11.99 ea + free shipping. If they don't screw me, I will be ordering more in the future.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 12:49:16 PM
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Originally Posted By sergtjim:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_17/573317_Big_Army_says_no_more_PMAGs.html

You might read this thread. However, like so much of what is said here, you gotta apply the BS test to every post and ask yourself "Does this sound reasonable?"

The only thing In that whole thread I'm really sure of is that PMags can be difficult to get out of MOLLE pouches. That bump around the floorplate gets in the way.

I own aluminum, stainless steel, and plastic magazines, made by numerous companies. And as I buy more, I continue to buy diverse types. Metal is noisy, plastic is quieter, SS is heavier than aluminum, but seems stronger and feels very substantial in my hand, I like the feel of polymer more than metal. All work well.

There isn't any right answer. It's like asking "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

Try everything, and get what you like.


You really should apply that to this post as well. That thread is silly to begin with, and the fact that "Big Army says no" really isn't an indicator of anything. This is the same Big Army that thinks men and women behind closed doors automatically equals sex, but yet has no problems with two dudes. As for pouches, true issued pouches have some problems, you might not always be able to fit two PMAG's in a double mag pouch. . But there are plenty of pouches out there that do work with PMAGs. And if you're smart, you'd buy the gear that worked with your mags, or vice versa. To only go halfway is just silly.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 2:05:13 PM
I like both PMags and D&H mags. I have both. I would get the D&H mags. More mags the better.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 5:39:29 PM
Originally Posted By boomhower1820:
Nope, never used GI mags which is one of the big reasons I was looking at them. The other is volume.


based on this statement I'd get the D&H. Nothing wrong with options. I have both but only use pmags.
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Posted: 5/19/2012 8:36:56 PM
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Originally Posted By COMPNOR:
Originally Posted By sergtjim:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_17/573317_Big_Army_says_no_more_PMAGs.html

You might read this thread. However, like so much of what is said here, you gotta apply the BS test to every post and ask yourself "Does this sound reasonable?"

The only thing In that whole thread I'm really sure of is that PMags can be difficult to get out of MOLLE pouches. That bump around the floorplate gets in the way.

I own aluminum, stainless steel, and plastic magazines, made by numerous companies. And as I buy more, I continue to buy diverse types. Metal is noisy, plastic is quieter, SS is heavier than aluminum, but seems stronger and feels very substantial in my hand, I like the feel of polymer more than metal. All work well.

There isn't any right answer. It's like asking "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

Try everything, and get what you like.


You really should apply that to this post as well. That thread is silly to begin with, and the fact that "Big Army says no" really isn't an indicator of anything. This is the same Big Army that thinks men and women behind closed doors automatically equals sex, but yet has no problems with two dudes. As for pouches, true issued pouches have some problems, you might not always be able to fit two PMAG's in a double mag pouch. . But there are plenty of pouches out there that do work with PMAGs. And if you're smart, you'd buy the gear that worked with your mags, or vice versa. To only go halfway is just silly.
I did apply it. Like I said, "However, like so much of what is said here, you gotta apply the BS test to every post and ask yourself "Does this sound reasonable?"

The only thing In that whole thread I'm really sure of is that PMags can be difficult to get out of MOLLE pouches. That bump around the floorplate gets in the way.

I had the MOLLE gear long before I ever had a PMAG. Always worked fine with metal mags. And PMAGS do indeed mostly interfere with each other in my pouches. Can't justify the expense of replacement just so I can use one specific brand of magazine.

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Posted: 5/20/2012 12:49:57 AM
Originally Posted By sergtjim:
Originally Posted By COMPNOR:
Originally Posted By sergtjim:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_17/573317_Big_Army_says_no_more_PMAGs.html

You might read this thread. However, like so much of what is said here, you gotta apply the BS test to every post and ask yourself "Does this sound reasonable?"

The only thing In that whole thread I'm really sure of is that PMags can be difficult to get out of MOLLE pouches. That bump around the floorplate gets in the way.

I own aluminum, stainless steel, and plastic magazines, made by numerous companies. And as I buy more, I continue to buy diverse types. Metal is noisy, plastic is quieter, SS is heavier than aluminum, but seems stronger and feels very substantial in my hand, I like the feel of polymer more than metal. All work well.

There isn't any right answer. It's like asking "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

Try everything, and get what you like.


You really should apply that to this post as well. That thread is silly to begin with, and the fact that "Big Army says no" really isn't an indicator of anything. This is the same Big Army that thinks men and women behind closed doors automatically equals sex, but yet has no problems with two dudes. As for pouches, true issued pouches have some problems, you might not always be able to fit two PMAG's in a double mag pouch. . But there are plenty of pouches out there that do work with PMAGs. And if you're smart, you'd buy the gear that worked with your mags, or vice versa. To only go halfway is just silly.
I did apply it. Like I said, "However, like so much of what is said here, you gotta apply the BS test to every post and ask yourself "Does this sound reasonable?"

The only thing In that whole thread I'm really sure of is that PMags can be difficult to get out of MOLLE pouches. That bump around the floorplate gets in the way.

I had the MOLLE gear long before I ever had a PMAG. Always worked fine with metal mags. And PMAGS do indeed mostly interfere with each other in my pouches. Can't justify the expense of replacement just so I can use one specific brand of magazine.



Seem PMAGs are NOT difficult to get out of pouches. You can say some pouches, your pouches, but such a blanket statement is nonsense.

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Posted: 5/20/2012 9:56:48 AM
Originally Posted By COMPNOR:
Seem PMAGs are NOT difficult to get out of pouches. You can say some pouches, your pouches, but such a blanket statement is nonsense.


You can say some pouches, your pouches, but such a blanket statement is nonsense.
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Posted: 5/22/2012 3:50:06 PM
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I would go with NHMTG mags (i.e., "true" mil-spec magazines) or more PMAGs. D&H mags have a pretty good reputation, but I have been moving more toward products that are actually used by the military than those claimed to be "good enough" to.

There is plenty of evidence that shows how PMAGs are an improvement over USGI mags. The main advantages to USGI mags are that (1) they are proven (but PMAGs are fastly becoming so, too), (2) they will fit in any mag pouch (although it's not a problem with the ones I have), (3) and they will drop free from any lower (shouldn't be a problem with current-production mags). PMAGs are arguably more durable (except perhaps in freezing conditions), have better spring materials, and have a more tactile gripping surface.

I have both and will continue to use both. Also, check Cals Sporting Armory, they have PMAGs for $10.99 a pop right now in all colors. That's about the best deal I could find. Given that NHMTGs are $12.99, this was a no-brainer for me.

Just my $.02.


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I'd go to DSG Arms, and get their kydex/PMAG combo kit for about that price. 5 PMAGS and a few good kydex pouches for 100. Can't go wrong, great deal. Comes out to 25 for each kydex pouch, and 5 pmags for 10 bucks each. Clearly a great deal...and free shipping.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 2:22:18 AM
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Posted: 5/23/2012 2:51:47 AM
Ditch the pmags and get lancers, they take stripper clips and are see through.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:14:57 AM
Heck if you got the coin and don't trust pmags or Al Mil. mags or SS Or Steel mags GO Big or GO Home.


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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:47:21 AM
Originally Posted By Marksman14:
I'd go to DSG Arms, and get their kydex/PMAG combo kit for about that price. 5 PMAGS and a few good kydex pouches for 100. Can't go wrong, great deal. Comes out to 25 for each kydex pouch, and 5 pmags for 10 bucks each. Clearly a great deal...and free shipping.


wow, thanks for posting this, tempting deal. +1 to this idea for the OP
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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:51:53 AM
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
I would go with NHMTG mags (i.e., "true" mil-spec magazines) or more PMAGs. D&H mags have a pretty good reputation, but I have been moving more toward products that are actually used by the military than those claimed to be "good enough" to.

There is plenty of evidence that shows how PMAGs are an improvement over USGI mags. The main advantages to USGI mags are that (1) they are proven (but PMAGs are fastly becoming so, too), (2) they will fit in any mag pouch (although it's not a problem with the ones I have), (3) and they will drop free from any lower (shouldn't be a problem with current-production mags). PMAGs are arguably more durable (except perhaps in freezing conditions), have better spring materials, and have a more tactile gripping surface.

I have both and will continue to use both. Also, check Cals Sporting Armory, they have PMAGs for $10.99 a pop right now in all colors. That's about the best deal I could find. Given that NHMTGs are $12.99, this was a no-brainer for me.

Just my $.02.




For $10.99 I'll stick with PMAGS. 8 mags for $100 shipped is a deal. Thanks for the info. The DSG PMAG combo doesn't work for me, it's a duty rifle so the kydex carriers can't be used.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:26:23 AM
Originally Posted By boomhower1820:

For $10.99 I'll stick with PMAGS. 8 mags for $100 shipped is a deal. Thanks for the info. The DSG PMAG combo doesn't work for me, it's a duty rifle so the kydex carriers can't be used.


Fo sho. The only problems with Cal's are that they hit you pretty hard with shipping/handling and they only ship signature required. Other than that, I have been happy with them over a few purchases.
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Ditch the pmags and get lancers, they take stripper clips and are see through.

FYI PMAGs work just fine with stripper clips and spoons. We also make these if you want a better way to tell how many rounds you have remaining in the mag:
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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:04:57 PM
I recently put all the pmags away I was testing, I have broken a few Pmags as well as Al, but I have not seen them perform better than the Al mags I have.

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To each his own, I have 25 poly mags and 50 usgi mags. I sleep fine at night with this combo. As long as you go quality you are fine.
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