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Posted: 12/4/2010 7:50:58 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT DR Exclusive!: SureFire 60-Shot and 100-Shot AR (AR-15/M16) 5.56mm NATO Box Magazines for Infantry Combat and Tactical Engagements of All Sorts: Meet the SureFire MAG5-60 and MAG5-100 High Capacity Magazines (HCMs)
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Kihn
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Posted: 12/4/2010 8:13:26 AM
That one hundred rounder is insanely long. The sixty rounder seems perfect to be the one in the gun from the start though.
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Posted: 12/4/2010 8:21:13 AM
that is a nice looking piece of work
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Posted: 12/4/2010 8:40:03 AM
I'll take one
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Posted: 12/4/2010 8:54:32 AM
[Last Edit: 12/4/2010 8:56:09 AM by Jay_57]
Please list link(s) to specifications and additional information. In previous post, reference is made to length and I cannot locate dimensions.
The best I can come up with is SureFire 60-Shot and 100-Shot AR (AR-15/M16) 5.56mm NATO Box Magazines for Infantry Combat and Tactical Engagements of All Sorts Thanks, Jay PS: The site pop-ups make me hear voices  |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 9:00:15 AM
SureFire High Capacity Magazine Specifications:
SureFire MAG5-60 HCM Specs: Caliber: 5.56 NATO/.223 Remington Height: 8.7″ / 22.1 cm Width: 1.66″ / 4.2 cm Weight-Empty: 6.4 ounces / 181 grams Weight-Fully Loaded: 2.02 lbs / 920 grams Box Material: 6000 Series Aluminum Follower Material: Nylon Construction: Spot Welded Finish: MIL-A-8625 Type III, Class I Color: Grey Estimated MSRP: $129 SureFire MAG5-100 HCM Specs: Caliber: 5.56 NATO/.223 Remington Height: 12.2″ / 31 cm Width: 1.66″ / 4.2 cm Weight-Empty: 9.6 ounces / 272 grams Weight-Fully Loaded: 3.3 lbs / 1.5 kg Box Material: 6000 Series Aluminum Follower Material: Nylon Construction: Spot Welded Finish: MIL-A-8625 Type III, Class I Color: Grey Estimated MSRP: $179 Standard MILSPEC USGI 30-Round Magazine Specs (data provided by SureFire): Caliber: 5.56 NATO/.223 Remington Height: 7.1” Width: 0.88” Weight-Empty: 3.9 ounces Weight-Fully Loaded: 1.06lb/16.9 oz |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 9:20:10 AM
Miles_Urbanus,
Is this level of information determined to be company proprietary or generally not for dissemination to the public? If not, please provide hyperlink(s) to source information. Thank you for providing the specifications and MSRP data, Jay |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 9:55:53 AM
[Last Edit: 12/4/2010 9:56:37 AM by Miles_Urbanus]
Originally Posted By Jay_57:
Miles_Urbanus, Is this level of information determined to be company proprietary or generally not for dissemination to the public? If not, please provide hyperlink(s) to source information. Thank you for providing the specifications and MSRP data, Jay It is in the same article you linked in your post. http://www.defensereview.com/dr-exclusive-surefire-60-shot-and-100-shot-ar-ar-15m16-5-56mm-nato-box-magazines-for-infantry-combat-and-tactical-engagements-meet-the-surefire-mag5-60-and-mag5-100-high-capacity-magazines-hcms/ |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 10:13:44 AM
[Last Edit: 12/4/2010 8:38:01 PM by Jay_57]
Miles_Urbanus,
Thank you for the response. My internet security setting (already allowed site pop-ups) prevents me from viewing anything other than the title. That is no problem as I am sure these new magazines will be a hot topic for awhile. Jay |
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LaRue556
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Posted: 12/4/2010 11:15:36 AM
Definitely love the resurgence of old ideas in new mags with new tech.
I'd love to have a sixty rounder to start out with, but....dang that price. I guess it matches a redi-mod in price though. |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 11:18:44 AM
How many 30's can I buy for the price of 1 60. Not to mention I can keep the weight on my load bearing harness and not the weapon.
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Posted: 12/4/2010 11:57:01 AM
Just in time for the M4's thicker barrel.
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Posted: 12/4/2010 11:57:32 AM
Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII: How many 30's can I buy for the price of 1 60. Not to mention I can keep the weight on my load bearing harness and not the weapon. Estimated MSRP is $129 for the 60-round and $179 for the 100-round From the artical |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 12:32:45 PM
Originally Posted By dpmmn: Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII:
How many 30's can I buy for the price of 1 60. Not to mention I can keep the weight on my load bearing harness and not the weapon. Estimated MSRP is $129 for the 60-round and $179 for the 100-round From the article....which means you could buy 18 std 30's for the one 60, and 25 std 30's for the 100, at gunshow prices of $7/std 30rd USGI mag. If I had a NFA-registered M-16, then I could justify these, but I don't. Imagine slapping the 100 into a closed bolt...I wonder if you have to slap the rifle onto the top of the mag instead...    |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 2:33:56 PM
The surefire team is rocking them at the ft. Hemming 3 gun. Pictures have been posted elsewhere. Might find them.
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Combat_Jack
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Posted: 12/4/2010 2:41:52 PM
These are for very specific weapons and times.
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Posted: 12/4/2010 2:50:09 PM
Originally Posted By WarLord31:
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII:
How many 30's can I buy for the price of 1 60. Not to mention I can keep the weight on my load bearing harness and not the weapon. Estimated MSRP is $129 for the 60-round and $179 for the 100-round From the article.
...which means you could buy 18 std 30's for the one 60, and 25 std 30's for the 100, at gunshow prices of $7/std 30rd USGI mag. If I had a NFA-registered M-16, then I could justify these, but I don't. Imagine slapping the 100 into a closed bolt...I wonder if you have to slap the rifle onto the top of the mag instead...
It probably is no more/less convenient than a Beta-mag. After mil-surp ammo went above 14 cents a round for 5.56, my Beta has collected alot of dust. TRG |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 2:59:40 PM
I was able to handle the 60 & the 100 today. They feel like fat usgi mags. The 60 rd mag isn't too long. The 100rd is Definitefinitely not bench or prone friendly. The mags do not have anti tilt.followers but i am not sure that is an issue.
The mags have been working without issues for the surefire guys. |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 4:42:04 PM
[Last Edit: 12/4/2010 4:47:28 PM by C-S]
I am sorry but there is not 130-180 dollars worth of labor and material there...
I will wait till someone else produces one and charges a realistic price for it. I will simply not pay that kind of money for something that uses about 2-3 times the material of a USGI 30-rd mag and similar manufacturing processes. That is just a joke... Even with how great the PMAG is... Magpul doesn't gouge the hell out of us for there magazine, despite the fact that if you want a PMAG there is but one choice. Talk about high way robbery. ETA: and before a bunch of you get butt hurt and start with the "That is Capitalism it's perfectly okay" BS, I will say, Yes. That is perfectly fine. There are people who will most likely cough up that kind of money because they just gotta have the bragging rights and cool'ness factor at the range. I'm not saying it's wrong... just saying it's a joke to charge that much for a USGI Mag on Steroids. |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 5:01:22 PM
Originally Posted By C-S:
I am sorry but there is not 130-180 dollars worth of labor and material there... I will wait till someone else produces one and charges a realistic price for it. I will simply not pay that kind of money for something that uses about 2-3 times the material of a USGI 30-rd mag and similar manufacturing processes. That is just a joke... Even with how great the PMAG is... Magpul doesn't gouge the hell out of us for there magazine, despite the fact that if you want a PMAG there is but one choice. Talk about high way robbery. ETA: and before a bunch of you get butt hurt and start with the "That is Capitalism it's perfectly okay" BS, I will say, Yes. That is perfectly fine. There are people who will most likely cough up that kind of money because they just gotta have the bragging rights and cool'ness factor at the range. I'm not saying it's wrong... just saying it's a joke to charge that much for a USGI Mag on Steroids. I suspect that the MSRP was developed in comparison to drum type feeding devices. Actual street price remains to be seen so I wouldn't get bent out of shape about it, yet. 
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Posted: 12/4/2010 5:56:56 PM
[Last Edit: 12/4/2010 5:58:33 PM by Titan_Maximum]
I talked to the Surefire guys at the match today and these photos were taken and uploaded by a guy on my squad:
So yes, they are Surefire coffin mags . . . . in the wild! |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 6:02:54 PM
the Question that I have is how is this going to compare to the Magpul coffin mag?
Have any details been released from Magpul? |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 6:38:39 PM
Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII:
How many 30's can I buy for the price of 1 60. Not to mention I can keep the weight on my load bearing harness and not the weapon. Plus a single 60rd mag takes up more than twice the space as two 30s. I'm all for new ideas and I'm actually very happy that companies are free to manufacture these things and offer them to the public (unlike during the 1994-2004 ban), but Ive got no complaints myself with the size, weight, and capacity of 30rd magazines. For the price I'd personally rather have a bunch of 30s plus ammo to fill them. |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 9:05:58 PM
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack: These are for very specific weapons and times. From the looks of it, Sure Fire wants to enter the 3-Gun owrld on a real serious note It also beats the Beta-C in price |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 9:06:07 PM
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
These are for very specific weapons and times. You mean like when you are in combat and need a lot of rounds fast? You mean like for the IAR and the new M$ sustained fire barrel? You mean like competition? This mag has fewer components than the Beta C and is more managable in addition to being sheaper than the Beta C. |
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Posted: 12/4/2010 9:35:27 PM
I found these pics over on another forum
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