 eternal24k
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Posted: 2/25/2010 6:07:45 PM
perfect coyote color, I am def going to have to do another set with that |
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Posted: 2/25/2010 6:32:55 PM
The porus nature of the material allows chemical dying to occur.
Plastics can/do absorb moisture. Moisture changes the shape and nature of the material. I'd be especially careful about getting chemical contaminents on these mags...it will affect their function and life....maybe not today, but perhaps next week. Hotgun |
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Posted: 2/25/2010 7:02:09 PM
ya know I did think about that but it is such a thin layer that I don't think it should bother the plastic much. I scratched the surface on one of the pmags to see how deep it soaked in and it was as deap as a layer of spraypaint is thick.
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Posted: 2/25/2010 7:27:40 PM
Originally Posted By Hotgun:
The porus nature of the material allows chemical dying to occur. Plastics can/do absorb moisture. Moisture changes the shape and nature of the material. I'd be especially careful about getting chemical contaminents on these mags...it will affect their function and life....maybe not today, but perhaps next week. Hotgun I wonder what someone from Magpul would say as it relates to the quote above. |
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eternal24k
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Posted: 2/25/2010 8:37:28 PM
its not like we are dying them with DEET, and I have a feeling that krylon has nastier chemicals than RIT dye
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Posted: 2/25/2010 8:48:24 PM
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My spidey sense tells me that it applies far more to a complete color change (such as 'thru to the other side') vs just surface color and even less so to a deposit of color onto a surface.
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Posted: 2/25/2010 9:31:47 PM
That looks awesome, guys....good work!
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Posted: 2/25/2010 10:03:52 PM
charge,
are the windows tinted on your mags? can't tell from the pics |
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charge5
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Posted: 2/26/2010 5:24:12 AM
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maybe just a little residue around the edge of the older pmag on the right but the left new one is crystal clear.
Originally Posted By eternal24k:
charge, are the windows tinted on your mags? can't tell from the pics 
original color was fde |
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danpass
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Posted: 2/26/2010 10:12:58 AM
Just curious: you dipped it 30 times, 30 seconds each time?
Or a dip a second? |
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Posted: 2/26/2010 10:36:32 AM
Tag. I'll be trying this later this weekend.
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charge5
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Posted: 2/26/2010 5:40:09 PM
30 dips one second a peice
Originally Posted By danpass:
Just curious: you dipped it 30 times, 30 seconds each time? Or a dip a second? |
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Posted: 2/26/2010 6:27:28 PM
Originally Posted By charge5:
30 dips one second a peice Originally Posted By danpass:
Just curious: you dipped it 30 times, 30 seconds each time? Or a dip a second? Ok I figured as much. I ask because dipping all the pieces at once at 30/30 is 15 min which falls into your 20 min comment 
Where did you come up with the 30/1 idea? |
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Posted: 2/26/2010 10:11:05 PM
honestly, I did the first pmag and made it far too dark. the second one I just decided to go a little slower and check the color often. I started dipping it and when I got to 30 the color looked as though if I went any further it would be darker than I wanted. so I stopped. Now one of the peices I did , I beleive the pistol grip for whatever reason took something like 24 dips and I can't tell the difference in the shades. they might be off but no more than the original fde color as they where originally off from each other in shade. I would imagine from different batches of plastic. I think that when you try it you will probably find that as you dip it you might want the shade that you get at 10 or 17 or whatever. 30 isn't the magic # it's just what I went with because thats where I stopped. it is so easy and quick that it will surprise you. have fun with it and see what you come up with. I am going to get some other colors tomorrow and see what else I can do! possibilities are endless really!.
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Posted: 2/27/2010 3:57:06 PM
I dont see this mentioned,but is there a problem with the dye bleeding out or staining your hands or other stuff?
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Posted: 2/27/2010 4:09:25 PM
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Originally Posted By A96HondaAccordEX:
I dont see this mentioned,but is there a problem with the dye bleeding out or staining your hands or other stuff? nope, not when wet with water. and it doesn't 'wash' off either such as when scrubbing with Dawn dishsoap and a sponge. haven't tried any solvents (though, generally speaking, I don't use solvents such as Hoppes or brake cleaners on plastics) |
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Posted: 2/27/2010 4:51:20 PM
Think I found the color I was originally looking for, did a batch of mags, CTR, and MIAD in what I would call an Urban Dark Earth (I will call it Dark Urban Earth), not that Larue did it wrong, just what my take would have been. Love this color, almost identical to DD DE rails. It's hard to photograph, but here is my best attempts
(FDE, Dark Urban Earth, Foliage, Combat Chocolate, OD Green, Black) 
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Posted: 2/27/2010 5:19:41 PM
Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Think I found the color I was originally looking for, did a batch of mags, CTR, and MIAD in what I would call an Urban Dark Earth (I will call it Dark Urban Earth), not that Larue did it wrong, just what my take would have been. Love this color, almost identical to DD DE rails. It's hard to photograph, but here is my best attempts http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/050.jpg?t=1267307524 (FDE, Dark Urban Earth, Foliage, Combat Chocolate, OD Green, Black) http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/041-2.jpg?t=1267307806 How'd ya do it...what's the die color and dip time? |
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Posted: 2/27/2010 5:20:26 PM
nice!
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Posted: 2/27/2010 7:19:48 PM
Die was powdered dark brown, 1/8 teaspoon in 10 cups water for a few minutes.
Base was foliage, also did a set with FDE which came out with a nice brown/coyote, will get some pics up of a comparison and some better pics of the urban earth |
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Posted: 2/28/2010 10:32:15 PM
I tried to get green with black. Ya it sounds stupid now but I figured for 1.66 it wouldnt hurt to try. Tan is pretty scarce around here. I wonder if you can bleach to get white to start as a base color.
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Posted: 2/28/2010 10:56:25 PM
Did it change color in any way?
Bleach may actually weaken the material. (pmags are molded in color) |
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Posted: 3/2/2010 12:29:52 AM
[Last Edit: 3/2/2010 12:30:53 AM by Mand76]
Dyed FG PMag covers. Left one is standard Magpul FDE, next is the first Foliage Green cover I did, 3rd is the second attempt at which I decreased the dyeing time and last is the standard Foliage Green for comparison.
Behind the mags you can see an FDE MOE grip, A Duracoat Tiger Stripe Brown upper and lower receiver with Daniel Defense FDE on the ASAP plate, safety and Magpul BAD Lever.
Another pic showing the second round of dyed covers (lighter) against the Duracoated Daniel Defense Flat Dark Earth receiver extension. Sorry for the shiny oil. I should have removed it. It almost matches the DD FDE perfectly. DD FDE also matches the ASAP plate well.
Ignore the crappy looking castle nut. That's just oil and moisture from bringing it in from the cold and setting it near the boiling dye water- not a lousy DC job. The Castle nut and receivers are Tiger Stripe Brown Like I mentioned.
Also, ignore the FDE PMag sitting in lacquer thinner in the background. I had painted that a dark brown many moons ago. It needs to come off since I want to play around with dyeing the FDE stuff too. MOE is next...
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Posted: 3/3/2010 3:00:42 AM
Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
I tried to get green with black. Ya it sounds stupid now but I figured for 1.66 it wouldnt hurt to try. Tan is pretty scarce around here. I wonder if you can bleach to get white to start as a base color. How did it work? |
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Posted: 3/3/2010 11:42:14 AM
Sorry to say it won't.
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