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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Independence ammo m193 still sucks?

Posted: 8/4/2017 9:16:14 PM EDT

I remember seeing bad reviews of it on here. Now I see a rebate which makes it $119/500 at AIM.

Is it still a "no go"? I don't even recall the issues but I remember being steered clear of it.

Posted: 8/4/2017 10:28:10 PM EDT

[#1]

It's had some overpressure issues in some people's guns and even blew one up, IIRC.

I've got a few thousand rounds of the stuff stocked up and fired a little over 1k through some of my ARs and I only saw signs of pressure issues with one of those (popped a few primers).

At that price, I'd probably get some.

Posted: 8/5/2017 8:49:24 AM EDT

[#2]

A lot of the first batches were showing high pressure signs. Enough, that I would be concerned.

I don't know if that was ever corrected or not.

Bear in mind that rebate covers a lot of XM and American Eagle products....

https://www.federalpremium.com/downloads/promotions/FP1417_AE5.56and223promo_web_f.pdf

IMHO... I would seek out deals on XM193 products on stripper clips.

Independence Ammo isn't worth it to me... I prefer having confidence in the safe pressure level of regular XM193.... spending a few dollars more for "peace of mind" is preferable.

Posted: 8/5/2017 9:54:41 AM EDT

[#3]

My lots are from 2015, been shooting it for awhile in 90 degree temps. No issues so far.

Posted: 8/10/2017 2:54:41 PM EDT

[#4]

Interested in recent reports with lot numbers, as for 240-250 per 1,000 shipped, its the best deal going on brass while the rebate lasts.

Posted: 8/10/2017 5:00:57 PM EDT

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Are the cases GTG for reloading?

At that price I'd almost mark up the purchase as reloading component acquisition and think of the range time as case preparation (emptying them).

Posted: 8/11/2017 9:48:16 AM EDT

[#6]

Garbage caused several malfunctions in DD & KAC rifles that are otherwise flawless. Finally the brass was bulged so much it was stuck in my chamber and had to mortar my rifle to get it unstuck, then I started examining spent brass and all of it was bulged and primers blown out galore. I'd stay far away from that stuff, I gave the rest of it away to a guy who wanted to shoot it in his bolt action. You couldn't pay me to use that ammo.

Posted: 8/12/2017 12:21:29 AM EDT

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Are the cases GTG for reloading?

At that price I'd almost mark up the purchase as reloading component acquisition and think of the range time as case preparation (emptying them).

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Beautiful brass. In my opinion it is some of the best brass that you can acquire that is not specifically made to match grade tolerances.

I have used old Winchester 2001 era Q3131A IMI made brass to shoot under .3 MOA groups with my savage bolt action tactical 223 rifle.

It is very beautiful brass and stands up well to multiple reloads.

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