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Posted: 6/26/2017 10:06:17 PM EDT

I've been deployed since the election and before I deployed I had still in boxes 20 cases of Wolf Gold and 110 mags loaded with Wolf Gold as well (28 a mag in DSG brand D&H mags wife might have needed so hold of zombies, she's a cop).

On this deployment I've added 10 cases now of Wolf Gold .223, one case of GG&G 5.56 m855, 600 rounds of .223 Speer Gold Dot and 2000 rounds of Geco 5.56 55 grain. Also added 1500 of remanufactured .223 but that because I thought I would not have internet.

My chest rig 8 loaded pmags and body armor has 8 30 round Pmags loaded with mk318.

So Ammo Gods with that said do I have too much Wolf Gold?

I have in ammo cans brown box xm193, q3131, wolf Gold 5.56 (yeah the stuff my LWRCi loves that hates 20 inch guns), PPU 5.56, S&B .223 (5.56? Shoots 3251 in my 20 inch) and a Remington, federal, fiochhi, PMC, wolf, brown/silver bear, and centurion .223s.

People say diversify ammo, (like PMC my wolf made by Tula runs better).

The question is could I have gotten a pallet discount, is that too much of one ammo, and why I don't have IMI, well it was always $50-60 more than wolf Gold until recently.

No MEN or magtech 5.56 that's recent and wife is mad anyway because of the election and post election 2020 is around the corner. I want magtech and men 5.56 but wolf Gold at $270 shipped is hard to pass.

I need help.

Posted: 6/26/2017 10:28:38 PM EDT

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Wolf gold is an awesome round to stack up on, and about the best deal going all things considered. I wish I had 30k+

Posted: 6/26/2017 10:36:48 PM EDT

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Posted: 6/26/2017 10:46:16 PM EDT

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Wolf Gold is the perfect ammo to stack deep. Keep going. It's never enough. Thank you for your service.

Posted: 6/26/2017 10:48:42 PM EDT

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"wife is mad anyway because of the election"

Angry about the election why?

Posted: 6/26/2017 11:09:18 PM EDT

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Why do "people say diversify ammo"?

Seems to me it makes more sense to find one load that works, and get real intimate with that load so you know how it's going to perform. If you're switching ammo every mag, you don't know what to expect.

Posted: 6/26/2017 11:47:46 PM EDT

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My stockpiling consists of: BH 77gr TMK, Fusion MSR, Gold Dot 55gr & 64gr and a bunch of Federal XM193 & XM855. I'm going for quality self defense loads over quantity of rounds though so I'm done with FMJ unless I can find quality brass case for <$.20/rd shipped anytime soon.

Wolf Gold is one of the better ones to stock though, if FMJ is what you're set on stocking.

Posted: 6/27/2017 9:02:15 AM EDT

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She just wants me to calm down but these good deals man good deals are hard to come by. If there were not good deals then I would not be buying as much.

Posted: 6/30/2017 12:23:44 AM EDT

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Where's the $270 Wolf? I can always use a couple of cases. I've had great results with the cases I've shot.

Posted: 6/30/2017 1:09:59 AM EDT

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Seems like you have the right amount of wolf gold to keep adding more cases to the fort!

Posted: 6/30/2017 6:13:31 AM EDT

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Where's the $270 Wolf? I can always use a couple of cases. I've had great results with the cases I've shot.

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Sportsman's Guide with coupons and such.

Posted: 6/30/2017 1:08:20 PM EDT

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Hmm, I don't seem to be able to find it and I didn't get an email like I normally do from them because I am a member!

I did notice that PSA has Independence on sale today for $5.79 a 20 round box, so that makes 1000 rounds $289.

Posted: 6/30/2017 4:45:03 PM EDT

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The only times you can have too much ammo is when you're drowning, or if you're on fire.

Wolf Gold is GTG, I wouldn't mind having as much as I could hoard.

Posted: 6/30/2017 9:13:03 PM EDT

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$267 delivered from Sportsman's Guide if you find the free shipping deal and a $10 coupon.

Posted: 7/1/2017 1:41:30 PM EDT

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If I wasn't 20K+ deep in Federal 5.56 I'd probably look at Wolf Gold. I know what Federal does on a consistent basis and will continue to purchase it at about a 10% increase in cost to Wolf

Posted: 7/1/2017 5:21:42 PM EDT

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Do you have a link to the $10 coupon?

Posted: 7/4/2017 9:47:01 PM EDT

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I just googled till I found one

Posted: 7/5/2017 9:00:39 PM EDT

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If I wasn't 20K+ deep in Federal 5.56 I'd probably look at Wolf Gold. I know what Federal does on a consistent basis and will continue to purchase it at about a 10% increase in cost to Wolf

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Likewise, I'll pay the little bit extra for ammo made by Americans. Ive bought and shot WG and its great for the price, but I'll do my part to keep Americans employed.

Posted: 7/5/2017 9:16:19 PM EDT

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I love Wolf Gold. Shoots well in my AR's and my bolt rifle.

Posted: 7/6/2017 8:22:23 AM EDT

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I ordered a half case for the AUG. It's not been liking the Wolf Polycase which I've heard gets better as the rifle gets run in. We will see. But I expect good performance from the WOLF GOLD.

Posted: 7/6/2017 8:42:30 AM EDT

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did this last night

Posted: 7/6/2017 8:54:27 AM EDT

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Go for the GOLD!

Posted: 7/6/2017 9:04:34 AM EDT

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Keep stacking the gold, baby

I just bought 500 rounds to break in my new rifle, she likes it. Got it at 21.5 /per and I wish i'd bought more

Posted: 7/6/2017 9:40:29 AM EDT

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Dang 21c a round? I want some. Sportsman's Guide with free shipping and 10 dollar off coupon is cheapest I was able to find it yesterday.

Posted: 7/6/2017 10:16:05 AM EDT

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Apologies, 22.8 cpr

Posted: 7/10/2017 10:12:07 AM EDT

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Dang 21c a round? I want some. Sportsman's Guide with free shipping and 10 dollar off coupon is cheapest I was able to find it yesterday.

Apologies, 22.8 cpr

That's still a great price--was that from Sportsman's Guide?

Posted: 7/11/2017 12:18:08 PM EDT

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Probably more like WHEN was that.

Rob

Posted: 7/11/2017 10:39:29 PM EDT

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SG Is 28 cent a round on WOLF Gold right now even with Buyer's club discount.

Posted: 7/12/2017 1:11:24 AM EDT

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He is probably talking about the 10 or 20% discount and free shipping for new members using the trial membership.

Its like a one time deal for new members

Posted: 7/12/2017 1:28:45 AM EDT

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My stockpiling consists of: BH 77gr TMK, Fusion MSR, Gold Dot 55gr & 64gr and a bunch of Federal XM193 & XM855. I'm going for quality self defense loads over quantity of rounds though so I'm done with FMJ unless I can find quality brass case for <$.20/rd shipped anytime soon.

Wolf Gold is one of the better ones to stock though, if FMJ is what you're set on stocking.

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I'm torn on this. On one hand the amount of bulkets one typically puts down range vs the amount of those that actually hit someone is so lop sided that I don't want to be sending more expensive bulkets into air.

On the other hand the bulket that does eventually hit someone I want it to really fuck them up.

In the end I think getting shot with any 223/556 would suck so I tend to go quantity over quality.

Posted: 7/12/2017 2:26:51 AM EDT

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I have seen the results of being shot with a fast moving 55gr FMJ, it is not a pretty picture, they will mess you up. Just ask the millions of dead VC and North Vietnamese regulars!

I know I don't want to get shot with one!

Posted: 7/14/2017 2:40:29 AM EDT

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SG Is 28 cent a round on WOLF Gold right now even with Buyer's club discount.

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What is this SG buyers club all about?

Posted: 7/14/2017 7:11:42 AM EDT

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You pay like $40 annually and then have days where only Buyer's Club members can use certain discount codes. I like the "Double Discount" days because I picked up (2) cases of Wolf Gold for $262 shipped a piece. They also have this 4-pay system where if your order is over $150 then you can split it into 4 payments over the following months with no interest charged. I used to think the Buyers Club was kind of dumb but really if you buy a couple cases of ammo a year at a minimum it pays for itself so I'm happy with it.

Posted: 7/14/2017 8:03:26 AM EDT

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You pay like $40 annually and then have days where only Buyer's Club members can use certain discount codes. I like the "Double Discount" days because I picked up (2) cases of Wolf Gold for $262 shipped a piece. They also have this 4-pay system where if your order is over $150 then you can split it into 4 payments over the following months with no interest charged. I used to think the Buyers Club was kind of dumb but really if you buy a couple cases of ammo a year at a minimum it pays for itself so I'm happy with it.

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Pretty much this. And in instances such as right now for another day or so they are doing free shipping for club members on orders over 75 dollars. That makes the ammo cost come down quite a bit when you aren't paying 10 to 20 dollars for shipping. Granted they do have free shipping quite often.

I've used the 4 pay system for some big money items in the past. Example TA31F ACOG I bought years ago. Made it affordable to me breaking that 1200+ dollars into smaller chunks.

Posted: 7/17/2017 9:08:37 AM EDT

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I finally tested Wolf Gold 55 gr FMJ from a 16" barrel yesterday. I'll post a video when it's ready.

Posted: 8/14/2017 11:37:02 PM EDT

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what's the ETA on this? really looking forward to it

Posted: 8/15/2017 2:36:39 AM EDT

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what's the ETA on this? really looking forward to it

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I am interested too. Well you know why.....

Posted: 8/15/2017 9:54:31 AM EDT

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what's the ETA on this? really looking forward to it

I am interested too. Well you know why.....

If you just want chrono results I can help you there since I tested some Wolf Gold on my 16" and 10.5" the other day.

If you want chrono results definitely check out this thread as well, only goes to a 14.5" barrel though. Velocity Tests

Created: 07/14/17 06:49 PM
Description: 16" Wolf Gold
Distance to Chrono(FT): 15.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.200
Bullet Weight(gr): 55.00
Temp: 85 °F
BP: 30.08 inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS
5 3144 1207.38
4 3161 1220.47
3 3122 1190.54
2 3105 1177.61
1 3140 1204.31
Average: 3134.4 FPS
SD: 21.5 FPS
Min: 3105 FPS
Max: 3161 FPS
Spread: 56 FPS
True MV: 3153 FPS

Created: 07/14/17 06:47 PM
Description: 10.5" Wolf Gold
Distance to Chrono(FT): 15.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.200
Bullet Weight(gr): 55.00
Temp: 86 °F
BP: 30.08 inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS
5 2735 913.68
4 2740 917.02
3 2713 899.04
2 2655 861.01
1 2704 893.08
Average: 2709.4 FPS
SD: 33.9 FPS
Min: 2655 FPS
Max: 2740 FPS
Spread: 85 FPS
True MV: 2725 FPS

Posted: 8/15/2017 1:11:16 PM EDT

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Probably a couple more weeks. Should be on the ar15.com YouTube channel.

Posted: 8/15/2017 2:23:28 PM EDT

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Yeah, looking forward to that.

Posted: 8/16/2017 3:14:57 PM EDT

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Cliff's notes is that it still fragmented well (obviously) and had about a 4" long neck with lots of disruption. Remaining fragment deviated from the original path at about 45° and left the block at about 15". In short, basically the same as M193 or any other copper jacketed 55 gr FMJ with a cannelure at appropriate speed.

Posted: 8/16/2017 7:47:17 PM EDT

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Thanks! This is the info people have been waiting for for years

Posted: 8/27/2017 8:38:20 PM EDT

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Why do "people say diversify ammo"?

Seems to me it makes more sense to find one load that works, and get real intimate with that load so you know how it's going to perform. If you're switching ammo every mag, you don't know what to expect.

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This.