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Posted: 2/13/2017 1:54:33 AM EDT
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probably similar to Hornandy's Defense rounds.
The hole is "pre-clogged" for best terminal performance, so the theory goes. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 1:56:29 AM EDT
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/11/07/speer-gold-dot-g2-now-filling-duty-le-magazines/
Instead of a large cavity in the nose, Gold Dot G2 has only a shallow dish filled with a high-performance elastomer. On impact, the material is forced into specially designed fissures to start the expansion process, as opposed to conventional bullet designs, which need target media to enter the hollow point and create expansion forces. The result is extremely uniform expansion, and more consistent penetration across barrier types, gun platforms and barrel lengths. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 2:34:11 AM EDT
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Thank you! I looked around before posting my question but apparently my google-fu was weak.
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:49:08 AM EDT
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If these were the loose packed PD returns be aware this particular lot of ammo is VERY velocity dependent and will not reliably expand from less than a 4.5" barrel.
That is why the ammo was sold so cheap because the PD returned it because of poor performance out of their 4" Glock 19's. Newer lots have supposedly improved performance in shorter barrels. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 12:09:15 PM EDT
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Does this mean all my Gold Dots are now obsolete?
Does this also mean that the FBI now needs to test this new round to confirm it's performance? 15+ years of consistency have now been ruined (possibly) by the addition of this polymer. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 12:26:44 PM EDT
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Mine went into my practice/farm ammo stash.
ETA - just realized the first post already explained what I was getting at. The deal was on returned ammo that was known to not expand properly. I believe Speer actually recalled the ammo. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 1:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryVery interesting. (going to see if they're doing this to all pistol calibers or just 9mm) |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 1:38:29 PM EDT
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G2 ammo has had issues. Not expanding reliably and some other problems.
I haven't heard if Speer has addressed this but I would be surprised if they haven't. They know about it. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 1:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
If these were the loose packed PD returns be aware this particular lot of ammo is VERY velocity dependent and will not reliably expand from less than a 4.5" barrel. That is why the ammo was sold so cheap because the PD returned it because of poor performance out of their 4" Glock 19's. Newer lots have supposedly improved performance in shorter barrels. I keep it loaded in my M9 mags only for this reason. Bought a ton of it for MP5 use, but never bought the MP5. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 2:03:49 PM EDT
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Got in on that deal also and use it in my EVO.
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Posted: 2/13/2017 2:16:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
If these were the loose packed PD returns be aware this particular lot of ammo is VERY velocity dependent and will not reliably expand from less than a 4.5" barrel. That is why the ammo was sold so cheap because the PD returned it because of poor performance out of their 4" Glock 19's. Newer lots have supposedly improved performance in shorter barrels. Thanks for the information. That's really good to know. I'm pretty sure none of that was stated anywhere in the description when I purchased it. But, given that I was supposedly buying high quality defense ammuntion for the price of practice rounds, I know something had to be up. That's part of why I asked about the rubber in them. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 2:19:19 PM EDT
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Got in on that deal also and use it in my EVO. That's exactly why I posted the question. I bought 1k a while back just to have (I don't carry 9mm pistols, really). However I just picked up a CZ Scorpion and thought about using it as a defensive round in that. So the consensus is that with +4.5" barrels (especially a 16" carbine) the ammunition is fine for defensive use? |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 4:11:48 PM EDT
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Thanks for the information. That's really good to know. I'm pretty sure none of that was stated anywhere in the description when I purchased it. But, given that I was supposedly buying high quality defense ammuntion for the price of practice rounds, I know something had to be up. That's part of why I asked about the rubber in them. You're right, it was not posted in the description, but I bought them before doing any research since they were so cheap! I chose to not use them for defensive purposes at all only because of the voluntary recall to LE (who normally carry full size guns, or at least I did). That was my personal choice since I have other carry ammo that I'm more confident in. If I had a 16" 9mm I would probably feel better about them. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 10:28:40 PM EDT
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Bad results, over penetration and little expansion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeVtwmHeRZQ
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Posted: 2/28/2017 11:52:26 AM EDT
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It's Gold Dot G2.
It's designed for a 4.5" or longer barrel. Will not expand in barrels shorter than this. |
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