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Posted: 9/23/2016 2:01:53 PM EDT
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Do you reload? I had the same question. I was loading them long and I was advised to load them to spec due to bullet construction. I haven't tried again just bc of the expense. I'm using 65 gr game kings instead.
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Posted: 9/23/2016 6:16:42 PM EDT
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I used the 62gr tsx last year and I can say the expansion on them is beautiful.
However, you have to remember you're still shooting a .224 cal bullet, so when shooting for the heart I found that deer will still run 10-40 yards and don't drop loads of blood. There is usually still enough of a trail to track, but make sure you watch where the deer runs if you're in a heavily wooded area. I haven't used the TMK, but from the fragmentation I've seen I bet it'll drop a deer pretty fast. On the flip side many people don't like fragmentation in their deer because you can't pick the pieces out so you have to scrap that area. If you're hunting a field where ranges could stretch out to 200 and you don't mind getting rid of some meat because of fragments, id say go with the TMK purely for accuracy. If your ranges are under 150 and you want the most meat possible, go TSX. The way to bullet holds together means no fragments and very reliable expansion. |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 10:52:58 PM EDT
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i'm no expert but common sense would tell me that a TMK would not be a very good hunting bullet. not much retained weight there to punch through the thick chest of a deer.
what about the 70gr GMX, 75gr gold dot or the TAP SBR 75gr soft point? soft points have been a mainstay of hunting bullets for a long time. the GMX should do well in dropping a deer too i would guess. |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 9:16:19 AM EDT
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probably 100 yards max. There is not a lot of underbrush where I hunt, but still some. I would say I would most likely be taking shots around 50 yards. I prefer a bullet that will put the deer down ASAP and would rather not be tracking them through the woods, mainly because I don't want to disturb the neighbors (hence suppressor). ? What would you use? I use the 50gr american eagle tipped varmit round for headshots. More than accurate, early upset with great frag pattern. of your choices the TMK YMMV |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 10:27:58 AM EDT
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You say you will be tree-stand hunting. That means you are forced to take the shot given or don't take the shot at all. I would go for the bullet with the most penetration. You may end up center punching a rib or leg bone before getting to something important.
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:33:21 PM EDT
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I use the 50gr american eagle tipped varmit round for headshots. More than accurate, early upset with great frag pattern. of your choices the TMK YMMV Quote HistoryQuoted:
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probably 100 yards max. There is not a lot of underbrush where I hunt, but still some. I would say I would most likely be taking shots around 50 yards. I prefer a bullet that will put the deer down ASAP and would rather not be tracking them through the woods, mainly because I don't want to disturb the neighbors (hence suppressor). ? What would you use? I use the 50gr american eagle tipped varmit round for headshots. More than accurate, early upset with great frag pattern. of your choices the TMK YMMV This. For body shots on deer, I prefer the 62 grain gold dot. My sons have killed a ton of deer, hogs, and coyotes with them, and they have always performed well. Major wound channels and pass throughs on all but one. |
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:52:06 PM EDT
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Have you considered Federal Fusion MSR?
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Posted: 9/26/2016 12:56:27 PM EDT
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At that distance the 77 TMK should do well.
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Posted: 9/26/2016 1:43:07 PM EDT
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I think I have some fusion that this barrel liked previously. Course that was 5000 rounds ago.
Otherwise, I think I will stick with the TSX. If the shot is at a longer distance, I can always have a 77 TMK loaded as the next round and just cycle the bolt to get to it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 5:18:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I have some fusion that this barrel liked previously. Course that was 5000 rounds ago. Otherwise, I think I will stick with the TSX. If the shot is at a longer distance, I can always have a 77 TMK loaded as the next round and just cycle the bolt to get to it. Are you hand loading your TSX ammo? Took me awhile to find a decent load for them. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:36:13 AM EDT
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Are you hand loading your TSX ammo? Took me awhile to find a decent load for them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think I have some fusion that this barrel liked previously. Course that was 5000 rounds ago. Otherwise, I think I will stick with the TSX. If the shot is at a longer distance, I can always have a 77 TMK loaded as the next round and just cycle the bolt to get to it. Are you hand loading your TSX ammo? Took me awhile to find a decent load for them. No, ASYM factory ammo. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 10:16:17 AM EDT
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use the TMK. Markmanship is a must, this is a small round for deer. But then again, marksmanship is always a must. In 308 I have used several different rounds on deer and 175 SMK is what I settled on based on accuracy and how far the deer go after being shot. TSX and other hunting rounds way under performed 175SMK or 168 Amax on dropping power. I shoot double lung or heart, so they always run. I never hit the front legs as to not mess up the meat. A quartering shot you can get the heart, otherwise right behind the front leg for double lung. Due to the eventual CWD I don't shoot head or spine. Also I do not open them in butchering. I do not like head shots due to how quickly they randomly move their head. I only take shots that are certain
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Posted: 9/27/2016 7:17:40 PM EDT
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Has anyone here used the TMK? Seems like the barnes or other controlled expansion would be more reliable than a match bullet no? I know the TMK fragments, but will it get the penetration needed from a quartering angle?
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Posted: 9/27/2016 7:19:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone here used the TMK? Seems like the barnes or other controlled expansion would be more reliable than a match bullet no? I know the TMK fragments, but will it get the penetration needed from a quartering angle? |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 7:31:53 PM EDT
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Turns up jack.
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Posted: 9/27/2016 7:44:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Turns up jack. https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=678523 "The BHA 5.56MM 77GR. TMK fired from the 16" Colt M4 had the necessary accuracy at 125 yds. to have taken a neck shot, no sweat. I purposefully put the TMK on the rear of the shoulder as final verification of the 77GR. TMK's terminal performance on a medium sized flesh & bone target. To me, all the internal damage leading to that 2.5" exit hole indicates the TMK has what it takes for an ethical broadside shot on an average size whitetail at 125yds or so. That level of terminal performance also indicates the 77GR. TMK should perform very well for non-LEO SD/HD use. " -LEID |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:02:48 PM EDT
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Decided to take advise above and just go for a headshot. 77TMK performed very well here.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:27:53 PM EDT
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Damn, that TMK isn't fucking around.
I have some 69 TMK loaded and some 125 TMK in .300blk waiting to get called up. I also have 62 Fusion, 75 T1c, 55 SP and 65 SGK so some deer will be falling these next few seasons hopefully. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:31:31 PM EDT
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Damn! Is that an exit, also?
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:15:00 PM EDT
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Holy Jesus! You're definitely making me feel good about taking TMK out deer hunting next month, that cratered the skull cavity!
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:02:24 PM EDT
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Fudd: "a 223 is a varmit round for varmits... Too small for a deer!"
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:06:16 PM EDT
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Damn, the front fell off.
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Posted: 10/22/2016 3:21:52 PM EDT
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Damn, the front fell off. Shit that's funny! |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 5:28:09 PM EDT
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Thats some impressive shit right there. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 5:53:59 PM EDT
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Scrambled that deer head lol
I too haven't had very accuracy with the TSX bullets. That was factory ammo before I started hand loading so haven't ever gone back and tried them. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 7:11:05 PM EDT
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Scrambled that deer head lol I too haven't had very accuracy with the TSX bullets. That was factory ammo before I started hand loading so haven't ever gone back and tried them. Strange. I shoot 1.5-1.8MOA with the TSX's, and around 2.5-3 MOA with the TMK's. TMK is poop IME |
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