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Posted: 8/7/2014 12:47:40 PM EDT
[#1]
I prefer brass but, I have fired steel cased on occasion out of my Stag with no issues.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 1:12:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Whatever is the lowest cost at the time. Right now it's steel cased.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 1:14:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Steel cases and my Noveske barrel do not bode well.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 1:36:50 PM EDT
[#4]
My favorite rifle will digest steel cased ammo but my others won't. For that reason I stick with brass.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 1:41:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Prefer brass. Steel runs fine in my rifles and will pick it up if that's what's available
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Posted: 8/7/2014 1:42:27 PM EDT
[#6]
my AR runs both flawlessly, zero FTF's, FTE's, stove pipes, etc. in 1000 rounds. i buy whatever i can find at a price i like.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 1:43:38 PM EDT
[#7]
I use brass for the accuracy. If steel was as accurate as brass, I would buy that.
 And if I want to just go blasting, I put a 5.45mm upper on my AR and go to town.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 2:07:58 PM EDT
[#8]
I reload so all brass for me.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 3:02:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Brass , no questions about it being once fired.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 4:51:44 PM EDT
[#10]
I prefer brass, but I will use Hornady Steel Match. As far as projectiles - gilding metal jackets only in my AR.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 5:19:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Mostly steel case unless really trying for accuracy.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 5:20:48 PM EDT
[#12]
Brass only - never in my life have I had an issue with brass.
Read enough on steel to know to avoid it. . |
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Posted: 8/7/2014 6:33:45 PM EDT
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OP, I will ONLY shoot brass-cased ammo in my AR-15 rifles.
Now, I WOULD shoot steel-cased ammo in my Saiga .223 rifle if that were all I had, but your question is about AR-15s. Why? Because I can afford brass-cased ammo and I want to minimize extractor and barrel wear and YES steel-cased commie ammo does wear out these faster but tell yourself whatever you want to. |
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Posted: 8/7/2014 7:00:28 PM EDT
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Have 8k+ rounds through the MK18 postie with nothing but a steady diet of Tulammo 55gr. It's still minute of paper plate at 100yds and no keyholes. On a semi auto...I don't have any hesitations shooting steel cased ammo with a bi-metal jacket through a CL barrel. I don't shoot it through my 11.5" Noveske SS barrel just because I buy quality brass cased ammo for that thing...but for blasting rifles it's perfectly fine. Just clean your chamber really well to ensure all of the carbon build up gets removed every thousand rounds or so. The steel does not obturate at the neck like brass does, which allows carbon and gas to flow between the case and chamber walls. This build up will eventually lead to stuck cases. Lots of ARFCOMer's like to quote the Luckygunner test...but I've yet to see the same results, even after actual full auto fire. Maybe DD makes a barrel that's that much better than Bushmaster....I dunno. That's my personal experience. It's worth what you're paying for it...
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Posted: 8/7/2014 7:25:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Shoot what ever you can buy !
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Posted: 8/7/2014 7:59:06 PM EDT
[#16]
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Prefer brass. Steel runs fine in my rifles and will pick it up if that's what's available My thoughts as well. |
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Posted: 8/7/2014 9:32:46 PM EDT
[#17]
500 rounds $119 at Walmart. I hope that my son will shoot it in 30 years or so when I'm dead or too old to shoot. I buy brass for self defence, hunting and target when I can get it at a reasonable price. But I have no problem shooting the cheap steel stuff for plinking. In the spam can it doesn't get any better for long term storage and it doesn't tie up a lot of money. |
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Posted: 8/7/2014 9:45:08 PM EDT
[#18]
I shoot mostly brass case stuff .
I have shot a bit of the steel but I am not much of a blaster type shooter and have not been much impressed with the power or accuracy of most of the steel I have found . The steel has its uses |
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Posted: 8/7/2014 11:32:27 PM EDT
[#19]
Shoot the steel case and leave the brass for me!
lol!! I only use brass and buy ammo from USA if at all possible. I have used PMC on occasion. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 8:14:51 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I use brass for the accuracy. If steel was as accurate as brass, I would buy that. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 8:15:41 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Read enough on steel to know to avoid it.  you should not believe what you read |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 8:16:25 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: minimize extractor and barrel wear and YES steel-cased commie ammo does wear out these faster but tell yourself whatever you want to. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 1:57:08 PM EDT
[#23]
Nothing but brass..................
The steel is not good with my rifles and not worth the damage done.................... Brass all the way. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 1:59:25 PM EDT
[#24]
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Prefer brass. Steel runs fine in my rifles and will pick it up if that's what's available This. I do have a spam can of tula steel for SHTF. probably will never get used. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 2:02:12 PM EDT
[#25]
You can pay for a new barrel with what you save buying steel vs brass.
I shoot mostly brass but some steel.
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Posted: 8/8/2014 2:02:43 PM EDT
[#26]
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you should not believe what you read Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Read enough on steel to know to avoid it.
you should not believe what you read Including this. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 2:11:26 PM EDT
[#27]
Tula steel cased for plinking ammo, M193 and M855 for stocking.
I do keep a can of Tula stocked also. Steel runs 100% in both my PSA/Daniel Defense build and Dad's Bushmaster. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 2:44:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Prefer brass but steel is cheaper
When you shoot a lot the savings definitely add up Brass is for defense/long range/carbine classes Steel is for plinking/blasting |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 3:12:27 PM EDT
[#29]
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I reload so all brass for me. Me also. its cheap and easy enough to get. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 3:15:02 PM EDT
[#30]
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try hornady, its better than brass surplus Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use brass for the accuracy. If steel was as accurate as brass, I would buy that. this is the only steel i have used and liked. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 3:33:37 PM EDT
[#31]
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Whatever is the lowest cost at the time. Right now it's steel cased. +1 |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 4:41:53 PM EDT
[#32]
If you have a high end paper puncher, I can see not wanting to run steel. But, if you have a
battle rifle, it better run everything. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 8:27:39 PM EDT
[#33]
Hi,
Use either brass or steel in my AR-15‘s. The steel winds up being used mostly in areas were I can't keep my brass. The last carbine class I you couldn't keep your brass so steel cased ammo saw the most use. I noticed no problems in my chromed bore carbine, but some guys with regular chambers and bores got stuck cases. With a new rifle I'd sseveral hundred rounds of steel cased without cleaning before depending on it. My rifles can do this, but some can't. Hope my two cents help. Best Regards:-) |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 8:29:12 PM EDT
[#34]
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This. I do have a spam can of tula steel for SHTF. probably will never get used. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Prefer brass. Steel runs fine in my rifles and will pick it up if that's what's available This. I do have a spam can of tula steel for SHTF. probably will never get used. You're doing it backwards in my opinion. Shoot steel at the range, keep brass for SHTF. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 8:40:49 PM EDT
[#35]
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OP, I will ONLY shoot brass-cased ammo in my AR-15 rifles. Now, I WOULD shoot steel-cased ammo in my Saiga .223 rifle if that were all I had, but your question is about AR-15s. Why? Because I can afford brass-cased ammo and I want to minimize extractor and barrel wear and YES steel-cased commie ammo does wear out these faster but tell yourself whatever you want to. With the savings of shooting steel over brass, you can afford to keep a barrel and bolt on hand. At current pricing at AIM, Wolf steel is 269.75 per thousand which is $2697.50 for 10k rounds. Wolf brass is $339.50 per thousand, which is $3395 for 10k rounds. That's a difference of $697.50 which is plenty of savings to buy a replacement barrel and bcg. Which most here probably have on hand anyways. |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 12:04:30 AM EDT
[#36]
Steel case for 80% of shooting, brass for 20%.
Ive had zero issues with steel in the following brands: BCM Spikes PSA Daniel Defense For the $ I save, I can buy a few barrels. If shooting past 200 or going for groups, it's brass. ETA: I'm shooting 2-3x a month, 300-500 rounds per outing. The savings add up. |
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Posted: 8/10/2014 4:57:16 AM EDT
[#37]
Just cleaned lgs out of 75gr. Hornady steel match today. 400rds/150ish this stuff is pretty damn straight shooting too (hpbt and no steel jackets for those that don't know).
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Posted: 8/10/2014 11:34:28 AM EDT
[#38]
Please stop posting this video; that's at least twice now - Eric802
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Posted: 8/10/2014 11:00:58 PM EDT
[#39]
I only shoot brass casing rounds out of my AR's.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 8:39:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Brass, because I don't feel like cleaning every time I shoot.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:09:07 AM EDT
[#41]
I voted Brass...Im not going to fire steel cased russian made trash through a rifle worth more than some peoples homes.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:17:29 AM EDT
[#42]
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Hi, Use either brass or steel in my AR-15‘s. The steel winds up being used mostly in areas were I can't keep my brass. The last carbine class I you couldn't keep your brass so steel cased ammo saw the most use. I noticed no problems in my chromed bore carbine, but some guys with regular chambers and bores got stuck cases. With a new rifle I'd sseveral hundred rounds of steel cased without cleaning before depending on it. My rifles can do this, but some can't. Hope my two cents help. Best Regards:-) I reload, so I'm using brass (although I have reloaded some steel cases), but this is the best reason I can see for using steel-cased. If I was doing a carbine class, AND if my rifle was reliable with it, I'd use whatever steel-cased I could find. |
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Posted: 8/13/2014 12:13:10 PM EDT
[#43]
I would just run brass the lucky gunner review convinced me when I was on the fence about this topic, barrel with brass was good past 10k rounds and the barrels with steel showed wear after 5k. So to go past 10k you would actually be on your 3rd barrel. But if you don't mind switching it up and changing barrels and the look of your rifle with different barrels it's a wash. With wolf gold being as cheap as it is nowadays I just stocked up and don't have to worry about degrading my barrel.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 1:17:33 PM EDT
[#44]
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I would just run brass the lucky gunner review convinced me when I was on the fence about this topic, barrel with brass was good past 10k rounds and the barrels with steel showed wear after 5k. So to go past 10k you would actually be on your 3rd barrel. But if you don't mind switching it up and changing barrels and the look of your rifle with different barrels it's a wash. With wolf gold being as cheap as it is nowadays I just stocked up and don't have to worry about degrading my barrel. Do you believe everything you read on the internet, I have read the Lucky Gunner's article several times and all I get out of it is, The whole thing reads like a selling ad for brass ammo because it is higher dollar and there for more mark up. After all Lucky Gunner is an ammo seller and just may be a bit biased. Now I don't blame them at all for this, if I had an ammo company I would do the same. The fact is that I shoot mostly Steel out of my 5 AR's and I have stated this before on this site many times "that steel performs flawless in all 5 of my rifles" and I have not seen the premature barrel wear that Lucky Gunner Article states... I have one rifle with over 10K rounds of steel through it and it still shoots under 3 inches at 100 yards. So for me it is Steel, the only thing I use brass for is hunting critters... |
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Posted: 8/13/2014 2:20:30 PM EDT
[#45]
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet, I have read the Lucky Gunner's article several times and I get out of it is, The whole thing reads like a selling ad for brass ammo because it is higher dollar and there for more mark up. After all Lucky Gunner is an ammo seller and just may be a bit biased. Now I don't blame them at all for this, if I had an ammo company I would do the same. The fact is that I shoot mostly Steel out of my 5 AR's and I have stated this before on this site many times "that steel performs flawless in all 5 of my rifles" and I have not seen the premature barrel wear that Lucky Gunner Article states... I have one rifle with over 10K rounds of steel through it and it still shoots under 3 inches at 100 yards. So for me it is Steel, the only thing I use brass for is hunting critters... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would just run brass the lucky gunner review convinced me when I was on the fence about this topic, barrel with brass was good past 10k rounds and the barrels with steel showed wear after 5k. So to go past 10k you would actually be on your 3rd barrel. But if you don't mind switching it up and changing barrels and the look of your rifle with different barrels it's a wash. With wolf gold being as cheap as it is nowadays I just stocked up and don't have to worry about degrading my barrel. Do you believe everything you read on the internet, I have read the Lucky Gunner's article several times and I get out of it is, The whole thing reads like a selling ad for brass ammo because it is higher dollar and there for more mark up. After all Lucky Gunner is an ammo seller and just may be a bit biased. Now I don't blame them at all for this, if I had an ammo company I would do the same. The fact is that I shoot mostly Steel out of my 5 AR's and I have stated this before on this site many times "that steel performs flawless in all 5 of my rifles" and I have not seen the premature barrel wear that Lucky Gunner Article states... I have one rifle with over 10K rounds of steel through it and it still shoots under 3 inches at 100 yards. So for me it is Steel, the only thing I use brass for is hunting critters... You probably weren't doing 10k worth of full auto mag dumps. They were running those rifles flat out. |
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Posted: 8/13/2014 2:33:37 PM EDT
[#46]
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You probably weren't doing 10k worth of full auto mag dumps. They were running those rifles flat out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would just run brass the lucky gunner review convinced me when I was on the fence about this topic, barrel with brass was good past 10k rounds and the barrels with steel showed wear after 5k. So to go past 10k you would actually be on your 3rd barrel. But if you don't mind switching it up and changing barrels and the look of your rifle with different barrels it's a wash. With wolf gold being as cheap as it is nowadays I just stocked up and don't have to worry about degrading my barrel. Do you believe everything you read on the internet, I have read the Lucky Gunner's article several times and I get out of it is, The whole thing reads like a selling ad for brass ammo because it is higher dollar and there for more mark up. After all Lucky Gunner is an ammo seller and just may be a bit biased. Now I don't blame them at all for this, if I had an ammo company I would do the same. The fact is that I shoot mostly Steel out of my 5 AR's and I have stated this before on this site many times "that steel performs flawless in all 5 of my rifles" and I have not seen the premature barrel wear that Lucky Gunner Article states... I have one rifle with over 10K rounds of steel through it and it still shoots under 3 inches at 100 yards. So for me it is Steel, the only thing I use brass for is hunting critters... You probably weren't doing 10k worth of full auto mag dumps. They were running those rifles flat out. Read my post on Pg 1... |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 8:05:20 AM EDT
[#47]
Brass in my scoped AR, and steel in my shorter barrel AR with a red dot.
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Posted: 8/14/2014 2:39:30 PM EDT
[#48]
I would guess I am pushing 10000 rounds of steel case with out any major issues. It's normally cheaper so I go with it. I also shoot a good bit of reloads since I reload.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 8:37:47 AM EDT
[#49]
Have always shot brass exclusively in my rifles and handguns.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 4:08:06 PM EDT
[#50]
Whatever works for the job intended.
I shoot both, a requirement for all my AR's. |
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