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Posted: 2/25/2014 6:11:08 AM EDT
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From Hornady own promotional shots:
Autoglass: 
Plywood 
Sheetmetal 
DryWall 
Other than the drywall shot, they don't look very impressive. Can't find a price on it, but one site prices the 5.56 55gr GMX at 27.00 + shipping. This would be a pass for me. |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 3:26:40 PM EDT
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I believe the 70gr. GMX is too long for mag length. IIRC, the ogive is too long.
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Posted: 2/25/2014 8:03:30 PM EDT
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I believe the 70gr. GMX is too long for mag length. IIRC, the ogive is too long. It would not be loaded to 5.56 pressures as part of their Tap LE line if it was not mag length. |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 8:21:31 PM EDT
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so there trying to copy the 70gr tsx and failing?
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Posted: 2/26/2014 6:28:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2014 7:51:42 AM EDT
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Not a bad round if you found a deal on them, but there are better options out there.
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Posted: 2/26/2014 10:12:39 AM EDT
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It would not be loaded to 5.56 pressures as part of their Tap LE line if it was not mag length. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe the 70gr. GMX is too long for mag length. IIRC, the ogive is too long. It would not be loaded to 5.56 pressures as part of their Tap LE line if it was not mag length. Well then they changed something in there smart guy. Because they were not able to be loaded to mag length in the past, as that was one of the biggest complaints about it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:20:11 AM EDT
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Well then they changed something in there smart guy. Because they were not able to be loaded to mag length in the past, as that was one of the biggest complaints about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe the 70gr. GMX is too long for mag length. IIRC, the ogive is too long. It would not be loaded to 5.56 pressures as part of their Tap LE line if it was not mag length. Well then they changed something in there smart guy. Because they were not able to be loaded to mag length in the past, as that was one of the biggest complaints about it. So I looked in the Hornady load manual for the truth. Mag length is 2.250" 70 gr GMX C.O.L. is 2.235" with 2800 FPS |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 3:48:07 AM EDT
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So I looked in the Hornady load manual for the truth. Mag length is 2.250" 70 gr GMX C.O.L. is 2.235" with 2800 FPS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe the 70gr. GMX is too long for mag length. IIRC, the ogive is too long. It would not be loaded to 5.56 pressures as part of their Tap LE line if it was not mag length. Well then they changed something in there smart guy. Because they were not able to be loaded to mag length in the past, as that was one of the biggest complaints about it. So I looked in the Hornady load manual for the truth. Mag length is 2.250" 70 gr GMX C.O.L. is 2.235" with 2800 FPS And again, I will restate, that there was something changed. When these came out, there were no 70gr. loads from the factory, and nobody loaded them to mag length. There was a pretty simple reason for that.....they were too long. Hell, there were threads on here with people scorching Hornady for their lack of thought regarding that. Glad to hear that is now an option. Thanks for looking it up. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 8:54:24 AM EDT
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Not a bad round if you found a deal on them, but there are better options out there. Better options? I am interested and would like to hear about the other options. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 9:45:09 AM EDT
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Better options? I am interested and would like to hear about the other options. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a bad round if you found a deal on them, but there are better options out there. Better options? I am interested and would like to hear about the other options. Tacked thread at the top of this forum. Best choices for SD ammo. READ READ READ, wealth of knowledge in there. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 10:35:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And again, I will restate, that there was something changed. When these came out, there were no 70gr. loads from the factory, and nobody loaded them to mag length. There was a pretty simple reason for that.....they were too long. Hell, there were threads on here with people scorching Hornady for their lack of thought regarding that. Glad to hear that is now an option. Thanks for looking it up. Nothing has changed. It's a direct competitor to the Barnes TSX bullet. It can be loaded to magazine length just fine... and always HAS been able to be loaded to magazine length. You may be thinking of the VLD style, 75gr Hornady A-Max, which is too long to load to magazine length, but is NOT the same bullet as their 75gr BTHP, which CAN be loaded to magazine length. Left to right: 77 SMK, 70 GMX, 70 TSX  |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:14:26 PM EDT
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so there trying to copy the 70gr tsx and failing? I wouldn't say they failed, but I'd say it's their answer to the TSX. When I was looking at them, they were coming in even more expensive than the TSX so I went with the Barnes. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 7:05:18 PM EDT
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Doc Roberts seems to consider the 55 gr 5.56 round as an acceptable barrier blind load FWIW.
I remember seeing some expansion velocity testing results a while back, seemed like the GMX has tougher petals than TSX at the expense of needing more velocity for reliable expansion. The 70 gr TSX is a 350+ yard expanding bullet, not sure how much of that I'd want to give up. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 9:26:05 PM EDT
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Doc Roberts seems to consider the 55 gr 5.56 round as an acceptable barrier blind load FWIW. I remember seeing some expansion velocity testing results a while back, seemed like the GMX has tougher petals than TSX at the expense of needing more velocity for reliable expansion. The 70 gr TSX is a 350+ yard expanding bullet, not sure how much of that I'd want to give up. Minimum expansion velocity sometimes get thrown around without a good definition. Sure they are technically expanding but probably not like many people think. 
Nosler E-Tip 
30cal GMX at 3400, 2700, and 2000 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 9:30:26 PM EDT
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For comparison, here is a 64gr Golddot at 1923fps. God I love these little bastards.
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Posted: 2/28/2014 6:22:18 AM EDT
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We are truly living in a great time for shooting an AR. The amount of badassery, is mind blowing. Man I love his game.
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Posted: 2/28/2014 9:35:54 AM EDT
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We are truly living in a great time for shooting an AR. The amount of badassery, is mind blowing. Man I love his game. I can remember 15 yrs ago trying to find a descent heavy for caliber load in .224 for hunting medium game. I think the Scirocco had just come out, the 64gr Winchester PP or a heavy match otm where the only choices. None of which were really Ideal. Now, WOW! You have to wade through 10 bullet makers to find the one your gun likes best. Choices are great. P |
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Posted: 2/28/2014 9:58:59 AM EDT
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I can remember 15 yrs ago trying to find a descent heavy for caliber load in .224 for hunting medium game. I think the Scirocco had just come out, the 64gr Winchester PP or a heavy match otm where the only choices. None of which were really Ideal. Now, WOW! You have to wade through 10 bullet makers to find the one your gun likes best. Choices are great. P Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are truly living in a great time for shooting an AR. The amount of badassery, is mind blowing. Man I love his game. I can remember 15 yrs ago trying to find a descent heavy for caliber load in .224 for hunting medium game. I think the Scirocco had just come out, the 64gr Winchester PP or a heavy match otm where the only choices. None of which were really Ideal. Now, WOW! You have to wade through 10 bullet makers to find the one your gun likes best. Choices are great. P P, you are our hero! Well at least mine! LOL I am down in the Houston area, and get to exterminze some animals now and again........nothing on your scale. You ought to be on ome ammo mfg's pro staff, with field testing. In all seriousness! |
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Posted: 2/28/2014 10:11:04 AM EDT
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P, you are our hero! Well at least mine! LOL I am down in the Houston area, and get to exterminze some animals now and again........nothing on your scale. You ought to be on ome ammo mfg's pro staff, with field testing. In all seriousness! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are truly living in a great time for shooting an AR. The amount of badassery, is mind blowing. Man I love his game. I can remember 15 yrs ago trying to find a descent heavy for caliber load in .224 for hunting medium game. I think the Scirocco had just come out, the 64gr Winchester PP or a heavy match otm where the only choices. None of which were really Ideal. Now, WOW! You have to wade through 10 bullet makers to find the one your gun likes best. Choices are great. P P, you are our hero! Well at least mine! LOL I am down in the Houston area, and get to exterminze some animals now and again........nothing on your scale. You ought to be on ome ammo mfg's pro staff, with field testing. In all seriousness! Broker the deal, you get 15% and I'll sign the papers! P |
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