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Posted: 3/2/2012 7:27:13 PM EST
I am just wondering if there are any negatives to using Wolf 223 62 grain in my Stag Arms M4?
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Posted: 3/2/2012 7:33:32 PM EST
I shoot the hell out of it (mostly 55 grain though) some guns don't "like" Wolf but I would give it a try. It isn't going to hurt anything.
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Posted: 3/2/2012 8:23:12 PM EST
Yep, give it a try. I shoot mostly 55gr split between brass and steel.
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Posted: 3/2/2012 8:50:31 PM EST
It's dirty, it's relatively inaccurate, often comparatively underpowered and it smells funky, but dangit if it don't go bang like anything else. See if your rifle likes it - if it does, and you're just looking for plinking ammo, it's a good choice.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 2:57:05 AM EST
Yep. Dirty, weak, but it always goes bang. As others have said, try a box. Some ARs wont cycle it.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 3:20:09 AM EST
OP, take few minutes to read through the ammunition forum. The Wolf question has been asked numerous times, and there are many excellent replies in the various threads. Check out the tacked threads for info on just about any question you may have regarding ammo. Good shooting.
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Smells like shit, but it works. My pistols dont like it; not enough powder.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 3:24:51 AM EST
the wolf thats marked WPA is the same as brown bear,, meaning GTG
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Posted: 3/3/2012 5:32:38 AM EST

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the wolf thats marked WPA is the same as brown bear,, meaning GTG

not the same, but made at the same plant

WPA is poly coated, brown bear is the old laquer
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Posted: 3/3/2012 5:46:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By hgdixon1:
I am just wondering if there are any negatives to using Wolf 223 62 grain in my Stag Arms M4?


It is an inferior product to American made brass case ammo, but it is cheaper and adequate for most shooting. It will not damage your gun. Clean your chamber after shooting it.

Everything you need to know is covered in the FAQ

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Posted: 3/3/2012 11:31:15 AM EST
Love the smell of wolf, new stuff is way better than the old stuff.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 4:31:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By coastal_shredder:
It's dirty, it's relatively inaccurate, often comparatively underpowered and it smells funky, but dangit if it don't go bang like anything else. See if your rifle likes it - if it does, and you're just looking for plinking ammo, it's a good choice.


Not first post, but this is my experience. My S&W eats everything so far. My friends Bushie choked on the 2nd round.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 4:42:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By hgdixon1:
I am just wondering if there are any negatives to using Wolf 223 62 grain in my Stag Arms M4?


great stuff. just make sure you get the WPA branded wolf.

its the only wolf i will suggest but i put 180 rounds of it today through my MK18 combined with M855 and 75gr TAP all ran fine, and the wolf actually grouped decently, 3-4MOA at 100yrds
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Posted: 3/4/2012 4:53:12 AM EST
Put about 1000 through my rifle and had 1 fail to feed. Just ordered 2k more yesterday. Good enough for me.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:20:37 PM EST
What about silver bear ammo?
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Posted: 3/11/2012 7:04:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hgdixon1:
What about silver bear ammo?


Its the same load as Brown Bear and WPA, it just comes in a shiny zinc case. To be honest there is nothing to gain from using it if the WPA polymer coated or Brown Bear lacquer coated stuff works fine, so you might as well save the 20 bucks plus per/k. As you have a Stag barrel, chances are you will have no problems with any of the cheap ammo as they are slightly overgassed and very unpicky in my experience.

Just stay away from Tula ammo...chances are your rifle will even run that fine, but it is inferior to the Bear/Wolf WPA brands.
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Posted: 3/12/2012 12:42:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By Currahee:
I shoot the hell out of it (mostly 55 grain though) some guns don't "like" Wolf but I would give it a try. It isn't going to hurt anything.


This. Mine handles 55 and 62 gr fine. My friend's rifle chokes all the time on it.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 7:54:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By WillAndrews:
Originally Posted By hgdixon1:
I am just wondering if there are any negatives to using Wolf 223 62 grain in my Stag Arms M4?


It is an inferior product to American made brass case ammo, but it is cheaper and adequate for most shooting. It will not damage your gun. Clean your chamber after shooting it.

Everything you need to know is covered in the FAQ



I've had more failures with cheap American company brass cased ammo (Winchester White Box, Remmington UMC) than I have with most of the decent Russian ammo. (Brown Bear, new production Wolf)

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Posted: 3/24/2012 8:27:15 PM EST
Got some wool in finally......gonna give it a try and see what happens...
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Posted: 3/24/2012 8:46:54 PM EST
The only significant difference I've noticed is that it's kind of stinky when fired.

And I've fired a LOT of Wolf 5.56, it goes bang too.
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Posted: 3/25/2012 5:41:49 AM EST
Polymer coated Wolf and Tula are good. They're even better when you reload them.
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Posted: 3/25/2012 2:23:48 PM EST
Cheap and reliable. As others have said, be sure to test it in your rifle before buying a ton...
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Posted: 3/26/2012 4:02:35 AM EST
If your rifle won't run it have it looked over cause there's something wrong with it.
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Posted: 3/26/2012 4:08:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By jeepinbanditrider:
If your rifle won't run it have it looked over cause there's something wrong with it.


Stanard Wolf/WPA is underpowered. If your rifle won't cycle it, try the Military Classic variety in the camo boxes, it's loaded a bit hotter. That's all I used to plink with. It's dirty but it works.
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Posted: 3/26/2012 8:20:51 AM EST
I just cannot bring myself to shoot Commie ammo through my AR. I'll run it through my AK until my hand guards burst into flames but not my AR...Just my $.02
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Absolutely not..do not shoot it through your rifle....






























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Posted: 3/30/2012 4:38:13 PM EST

Well here it is everyone....I went to the range this evening and put about 80 rounds of WPA through my stag arms AR and it performed flawlessly!!! I will definitely get more Wolf ammo for the range!!
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Posted: 3/30/2012 10:46:18 PM EST
The reason for Fail to Fire, is that the trigger spring is to light for the primer. I was shooting 7.62x39 Wolf ammo out of my AR, without the spring it would fail to fire. It would strike the primer, but wasn't enough umph.
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Posted: 3/31/2012 5:42:13 AM EST
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Ammo FAQ entry #5. Also: Ammunition review and reference thread tacked at the top.
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