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Posted: 2/21/2012 1:21:54 PM
Anyone ever vaccume seal their ammo?
and if so did you put anything in with it?
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Posted: 2/21/2012 1:39:40 PM
vacuum sealed mine about 1.5 years ago... some of the bags I purposely sealed when there was approximately 2.5-5% of the air left...
those that were totally vacuum sealed and those that were 95% or so are all looking good still... shot some still good... they are all inside ammo cans with desc. packs... I didn't put anything inside the bags though besides ammo or boxes...
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Posted: 2/21/2012 1:45:52 PM

Originally Posted By KingIX:
Anyone ever vaccume seal their ammo?
and if so did you put anything in with it?


no, the non vaccuumed ammo from WW2 works just fine

cool and dry is all you need
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Posted: 2/21/2012 2:04:11 PM
Cool and dry yes i under stand that part...

I was thinking for a BOB
I could seal them flat like a sheet of paper size
And put them up and down aginst my back
Let me carry some extra ammo and could do 60 rounds a bag
so each bag would be two extra mags
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Posted: 2/21/2012 2:06:27 PM
I've vacuum sealed ammo a couple fo times using a a food saver and food saver bags an NEVER has the vacuum maintained!
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Posted: 2/21/2012 3:02:59 PM
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I've been told that storing ammo in sealed plastic can cause condensation!



I will say I havent had any problems storing my ammo in USGI cans / bandoliers
I still have a few cans of Q3131 98/99 and early lots of XM193
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Posted: 2/21/2012 3:52:57 PM
Not if it's vacuum packed. I have also used the foodsaver to put TP, underwear etc in when going hunting in Alaska. It is a very handy thing to have, tons of uses besides food.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 3:55:17 PM
I've been pondering on this topic too.

Double sealing the bag should help to mitigate seal breaks. Toss a small desi pack or 2 in each bag. (Wait for a low humidity day to seal them up.)

Put the bags in an ammo can, and store the can in a cool, dry, place.

I don't see why that wouldn't work for long term storage. The plastic bag edges will take up space, so you'd probably get <1000 per 50cal can. (?)

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Posted: 2/21/2012 5:02:46 PM
Originally Posted By 00Ghost00:
I've been pondering on this topic too.

Double sealing the bag should help to mitigate seal breaks. Toss a small desi pack or 2 in each bag. (Wait for a low humidity day to seal them up.)

Put the bags in an ammo can, and store the can in a cool, dry, place.

I don't see why that wouldn't work for long term storage. The plastic bag edges will take up space, so you'd probably get <1000 per 50cal can. (?)



You could do the same thing without the food saver bags, and it would also be perfect for long term storage. It's ammunition, not a dairy product. The stuff lasts for decades just sitting in a closet.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 5:56:34 PM
Originally Posted By jstevens:
Not if it's vacuum packed. I have also used the foodsaver to put TP, underwear etc in when going hunting in Alaska. It is a very handy thing to have, tons of uses besides food.


Yea i seal alot of my hunting and camping stuff to make sure it stays dry


Yea i know in my ammo cans is fine.. but i am not talking about ideal storage situations
So am looking for alternatives when carrying larger amounts in a bail out bag only situaion
Wanting to keep it dry for as long as possible
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Posted: 2/21/2012 6:06:58 PM
The tips usually puncture the bags. You have to double bag it. Besides that, store your ammo in an ammo can and dont worry about it.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 7:12:05 PM

Originally Posted By KingIX:
Cool and dry yes i under stand that part...

I was thinking for a BOB
I could seal them flat like a sheet of paper size
And put them up and down aginst my back
Let me carry some extra ammo and could do 60 rounds a bag
so each bag would be two extra mags

don't dick with all that, the bags will just get punctured.

if you want it flat, put it on strippers, then wrap those with tin foil or other thin covering, then wrap that in duct tape. Flat, holds together and can get tossed around w/o breaking the wrapper. It also unwraps easily.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:10:27 PM
Originally Posted By walt_l:
I've vacuum sealed ammo a couple fo times using a a food saver and food saver bags an NEVER has the vacuum maintained!


This.

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Posted: 2/22/2012 4:46:04 PM
I've done it trying to make my own 300 round battlepacks like the South African (mine were on stripper clips with a spoon in each pack), When all the air is pulled from the bag it sucks the bag tight to every sharp edge it can reach puncturing the bag, I've never had one work long term.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 7:15:16 PM
Figured out how i will do it...
just goingg to seal them while in the box...
this will take care of what i need it for
6 boxes per bag and 1 bag in each back back will give me enough
to refil most of my mags...
in my shtf set up... if it is deep enough to need more ammo than that
i will deal with it then
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Posted: 2/22/2012 9:45:04 PM
Don't bother with the food saver idea. I have tried it and invariably the points on the bullets or the edges of the boxes end up breaking puncturing a hole in the bag. Until they develop a very thick bag (i.e. expensive) it won't work for long term storage.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 10:50:12 PM
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Posted: 2/22/2012 11:39:43 PM
Pics will come tomorrow or so when i do it...

As far as long term thats what my ammo cans are for...
i think in boxes i can make it work for an extened period
Also it doesnt have to be full bore all out vacuumed
just enough to keep the boxes in place and dry...

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Posted: 2/23/2012 1:02:55 PM

Originally Posted By JoshAR:
Originally Posted By walt_l:
I've vacuum sealed ammo a couple fo times using a a food saver and food saver bags an NEVER has the vacuum maintained!


This.

Woorks great on hamburger but not so good on ammo


The armed forces has been storing ammo in ammo cans since they were invented.

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Posted: 2/23/2012 1:14:48 PM
I have a "friend" who sealed some ammo in mylar bags with an O2 absorber and a silica packet, then sealed it inside a #10 can.
Labeled "hard red wheat" (with a color code mark) and mixed in with other cans of actual hard red wheat, in a cool, dry basement.

But that guy was paranoid.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 2:30:50 PM
Vac packing my ammo has low curb appeal to me just on general principle.
I don’t see anything wrong with storing boxed ammo in mylar bags.
It seems to me a lot of O2 absorbers are a mixture of iron powder and salt.
That would not be something I would want packed with my ammo.
Making battlepacks with foodsaver bags or mylar bags would seem to have some merit.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 2:33:53 PM
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Posted: 2/23/2012 2:51:28 PM
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Originally Posted By utahman:
I have a "friend" who sealed some ammo in mylar bags with an O2 absorber and a silica packet, then sealed it inside a #10 can.
Labeled "hard red wheat" (with a color code mark) and mixed in with other cans of actual hard red wheat, in a cool, dry basement.

But that guy was paranoid.


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ETA: Good idea...
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Posted: 2/23/2012 3:35:20 PM
Let's keep the goofy pics in General Discussion, please.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 10:40:42 PM
im still waiting on my pics.