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4/25/2017 7:42:44 PM
Posted: 5/12/2011 11:30:20 PM EDT
So we're hearing the gun was a 416, and on the radio they were saying the bullet entered his eye and "exploded" does anyone think this bullet they were talking about was a mk262 I've seen ballistic comparisions of the 77gr smk and I guess through the eye might "explode" or look like it. I'm just curious, if I'm not goin to run out and buy the gun used atleast I could use the same ammo.
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 2:03:35 AM EDT
I believe those were non-firearm knowledgeable personnel who were commenting on "exploding" projectiles.
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 5:22:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 5:45:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Eric802:
My guess would be Brown Tip Optimized.


This is correct.
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 12:13:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2011 5:09:41 PM EDT by Eric802]
I'm sorry, you must've thought this was G.D. - Eric 802

Link Posted: 5/13/2011 12:31:17 PM EDT
Give it a rest guys, jeesh you would think the killing of OBL was a video game or something.
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 2:18:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2011 2:19:31 PM EDT by Rockyriver]
Is'nt the Brown Tip Opt just a 70-gr triple shock X boat by Barnes? And not an explosive tip round?
Excuse my ignorance.
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 3:44:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2011 5:09:16 PM EDT by Eric802]
I'm sorry, you must've thought this was G.D. - Eric 802
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 4:13:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2011 5:10:04 PM EDT by Eric802]
I'm sorry, you must've thought this was G.D. - Eric 802
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 4:35:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2011 5:10:22 PM EDT by Eric802]
I'm sorry, you must've thought this was G.D. - Eric 802
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 5:05:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/13/2011 5:10:37 PM EDT by Eric802]
I'm sorry, you must've thought this was G.D. - Eric 802
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 5:08:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 5:10:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By biggyskater86:
So we're hearing the gun was a 416, and on the radio they were saying the bullet entered his eye and "exploded" does anyone think this bullet they were talking about was a mk262 I've seen ballistic comparisions of the 77gr smk and I guess through the eye might "explode" or look like it. I'm just curious, if I'm not goin to run out and buy the gun used atleast I could use the same ammo.


It was a Barnes 70gr TSX.

Link Posted: 5/13/2011 5:11:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 7:00:07 PM EDT
"just a Barnes TSX"...Like saying a Mercedes is just a car.

After entering 1.5" of his head it went to .50 caliber, that's A LOT of energy.

P
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 7:56:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thebomber:

It was a Barnes 70gr TSX.



how do we know? the govt has been pretty tight-lipped about the whole thing.
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 8:29:45 PM EDT
next monday night, military channel...saw the ad last night
Link Posted: 5/13/2011 9:06:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By caser:
Originally Posted By thebomber:

It was a Barnes 70gr TSX.



how do we know? the govt has been pretty tight-lipped about the whole thing.


I know its the internet so its good to be skeptical. You have no reason to believe me. It was howevera 70 gr Barnes TSX.

Link Posted: 5/13/2011 9:09:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Eric802:
Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
Is'nt the Brown Tip Opt just a 70-gr triple shock X boat by Barnes? And not an explosive tip round?
Excuse my ignorance.


There is no "explosive tip" 5.56 round in military use. And yes, the Brown Tip is a 70gr TSX.



Keep in mind it was an anti terrorism operation.
Link Posted: 5/14/2011 3:43:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thebomber:
Originally Posted By caser:
Originally Posted By thebomber:

It was a Barnes 70gr TSX.



how do we know? the govt has been pretty tight-lipped about the whole thing.


I know its the internet so its good to be skeptical. You have no reason to believe me. It was howevera 70 gr Barnes TSX.



+1 from my sources.

P

Link Posted: 5/14/2011 3:45:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thebomber:
Originally Posted By Eric802:
Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
Is'nt the Brown Tip Opt just a 70-gr triple shock X boat by Barnes? And not an explosive tip round?
Excuse my ignorance.


There is no "explosive tip" 5.56 round in military use. And yes, the Brown Tip is a 70gr TSX.



Keep in mind it was an anti terrorism operation.


Still not "explosive" as for clarification. Expanding, yes.

P

Link Posted: 5/14/2011 3:45:59 AM EDT
Special forces means special weapons. More than likely a 4.6x30mm for the H&K mp7 pdw or the ucp pistol. They make those in API and incendiary A .416 is a .50 bmg necked down and has 2000 meter range. Although that would make for a good slow motion video! wolf
Link Posted: 5/14/2011 4:22:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/14/2011 4:31:56 AM EDT by Rockyriver]
Originally Posted By wolfganggross:
Special forces means special weapons. More than likely a 4.6x30mm for the H&K mp7 pdw or the ucp pistol. They make those in API and incendiary A .416 is a .50 bmg necked down and has 2000 meter range. Although that would make for a good slow motion video! wolf


I think when the other post and OP were speaking 416 they meant the HK rifle model number 416, not the caliber 416. See link below.
http://www.hk-usa.com/military_products/hk416_general.asp







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Link Posted: 5/14/2011 6:52:57 AM EDT
Hey P, I disagree with you totally! I think that a 70 gr. TSX would rank as "explosive" when used on an idiots head! LMAO! 9080
Link Posted: 5/14/2011 7:11:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By capitolP:
Originally Posted By thebomber:
Originally Posted By Eric802:
Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
Is'nt the Brown Tip Opt just a 70-gr triple shock X boat by Barnes? And not an explosive tip round?
Excuse my ignorance.


There is no "explosive tip" 5.56 round in military use. And yes, the Brown Tip is a 70gr TSX.



Keep in mind it was an anti terrorism operation.


Still not "explosive" as for clarification. Expanding, yes.

P




Roger that....I wasn't thinking they meant "explosive" in a literal sense.

Link Posted: 5/14/2011 7:32:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/14/2011 7:35:14 AM EDT by Rockyriver]
Originally Posted By capitolP:
"just a Barnes TSX"...Like saying a Mercedes is just a car.

After entering 1.5" of his head it went to .50 caliber, that's A LOT of energy.

P



Here are the two side by side I own them both.
The top of the line Bullet and Car according to capitolP , and I have to agree.
Thanks Barnes for the bullets that killed US enemy No 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!



Link Posted: 5/14/2011 12:00:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
Originally Posted By capitolP:
"just a Barnes TSX"...Like saying a Mercedes is just a car.

After entering 1.5" of his head it went to .50 caliber, that's A LOT of energy.

P



Here are the two side by side I own them both.
The top of the line Bullet and Car according to capitolP , and I have to agree.
Thanks Barnes for the bullets that killed US enemy No 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/AR15%20Stuff/DSCN1348.jpg



What kind of velocity are you looking at with the 70grn barnes? I imagine that you're reloading/hand loading those?
Link Posted: 5/14/2011 1:57:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By coconut1:
Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
Originally Posted By capitolP:
"just a Barnes TSX"...Like saying a Mercedes is just a car.

After entering 1.5" of his head it went to .50 caliber, that's A LOT of energy.

P



Here are the two side by side I own them both.
The top of the line Bullet and Car according to capitolP , and I have to agree.
Thanks Barnes for the bullets that killed US enemy No 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/AR15%20Stuff/DSCN1348.jpg



What kind of velocity are you looking at with the 70grn barnes? I imagine that you're reloading/hand loading those?


I use BL-C(2) powder at 25.5grs and get around 2800 fps. I could go hotter and get better velocity, however that cuts into my brass life.
I hate to load hot even on self defense rounds, because a 70 grain bullet traveling at anything over 2600 fps is going to drop the reciever on the other end easily. IMHO
I do not own a chronograph, I get my results from the reloading manual just to let you know.

Link Posted: 5/14/2011 2:44:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
Originally Posted By capitolP:
"just a Barnes TSX"...Like saying a Mercedes is just a car.

After entering 1.5" of his head it went to .50 caliber, that's A LOT of energy.

P



Here are the two side by side I own them both.
The top of the line Bullet and Car according to capitolP , and I have to agree.
Thanks Barnes for the bullets that killed US enemy No 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/AR15%20Stuff/DSCN1348.jpg




VERY NICE combo!!! I raise my wine glass to you sir

P

Link Posted: 5/14/2011 2:45:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Fireman9080:
Hey P, I disagree with you totally! I think that a 70 gr. TSX would rank as "explosive" when used on an idiots head! LMAO! 9080


LOL .

+1 on the head not the round.

P

Link Posted: 5/14/2011 2:47:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
Originally Posted By wolfganggross:
Special forces means special weapons. More than likely a 4.6x30mm for the H&K mp7 pdw or the ucp pistol. They make those in API and incendiary A .416 is a .50 bmg necked down and has 2000 meter range. Although that would make for a good slow motion video! wolf


I think when the other post and OP were speaking 416 they meant the HK rifle model number 416, not the caliber 416. See link below.
http://www.hk-usa.com/military_products/hk416_general.asp


You got it right.

P







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Link Posted: 5/14/2011 5:15:20 PM EDT
Isn't it obvious?



Anti-terrorist ammunition FTW
Link Posted: 5/14/2011 5:22:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BB223:
Isn't it obvious?

http://www.extremeshockusa.com/gfx_splash/top_2.jpg

Anti-terrorist ammunition FTW



Just this ad makes me want to buy more TSX.

Link Posted: 5/15/2011 2:21:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2011 2:21:17 PM EDT by Zhukov]
No one knows, this thread is nothing but speculation.
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