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Posted: 8/11/2017 10:57:20 PM EDT
Leaving aside mag compatibility if you already have Glocks (which I don't, but I've been weighing getting a G17 or G34) does one have any clear advantages over the other? Do you just like one better than the other?
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I've always felt that if you can't feed a mag fed weapon you have a problem. Glock mags are cheap, reliable and readily available. I can also shove one in a pistol too. Not too many options for a metal Colt mags.
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I have a Colt-pattern 9mm...because they didn't make Glock-pattern lowers when I built mine.
I'd go Glock if I was doing it today: a) mags readily available and b) compatible with the pistol. |
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The colt mag guns are easier/cheaper to get lrbho working. I guess the mags are solid steel, too. They'll outlast your grandkids.
Glock mags are cheaper and come in 20 different sizes. But they all have some plastic parts that will eventually fail. Maybe not for 50 years, who knows. |
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The colt mag guns are easier/cheaper to get lrbho working. I guess the mags are solid steel, too. They'll outlast your grandkids. Glock mags are cheaper and come in 20 different sizes. But they all have some plastic parts that will eventually fail. Maybe not for 50 years, who knows. View Quote For compatibility reasons, in the zombie apocalypse, everyone has Glock mags. |
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Get both.
I have two Colt pattern rigs....one using a QC10 lower the other with a Hahn dedicated mag block. Both run 100% as does the last round hold open. The Glock rig is a QC10 lower set up similar to my Hahn block rig and runs good as well. Last round hold open can be hit or miss. I personally prefer the Colt pattern rigs. |
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I went colt, because I don't own any glocks and don't intend to own any glocks.
the colt mags were cheap and the mag block lets me use the lower for 2 calibers. |
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I've always felt that if you can't feed a mag fed weapon you have a problem. Glock mags are cheap, reliable and readily available. I can also shove one in a pistol too. Not too many options for a metal Colt mags. View Quote Part of the reason I want one so bad is mag compatibility with pistols I already own. They are reliable and cheap. Easy to find gear for. |
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LRBHO is an important feature for me, and though it seems they've gotten most of the kinks out it has been a long standing issue with Glock AR's. In addition, I find the double feed Colt mags easier to load, especially with the maglula. I also kind of prefer the straight rather than angle mag well, but not a big deal.
I'll probably end up getting a Glock compat lower when FM or whatever does theres. The idea of a second magazine in the pistol grip appeals to me. In addition, clear mags seem fun for no real reason, so I'd like that option. I just think the glock mag ar's need to have a little different aesthetic once you slant that magazine well. Price for mags isn't really an issue. Sure Metalforms are $35 range, but on sale often. ASC mags get real cheap sometimes. Sure they're steal, if the weight offends, doesn't matter to me. |
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This. Part of the reason I want one so bad is mag compatibility with pistols I already own. They are reliable and cheap. Easy to find gear for. View Quote Oh well. |
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I never stick with a glock when I get one, but I'd love if there was an option for a beretta 92 magazine. It's not the most popular handgun to ever walk the earth (ala, glock), so it's always the same "no one will buy it" thing. Even though it's untested theory for the most part. Keltec Sub2000's in alternate mags certainly have no problem selling. Oh well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This. Part of the reason I want one so bad is mag compatibility with pistols I already own. They are reliable and cheap. Easy to find gear for. Oh well. |
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I have a Glock AR-9 and I shoot Glocks.
I don't believe so much in the perfect pairs thing now. I have 33rd mags in my AR-9 and 17rd mags in my Glock 19. Can I use the mags interchangably? Yes. Do it? No. Would it be good for an SHTF situation? Yes, sure. Truth is, I love having the 33rd mags in my AR-9 because it's a good size for it. Why put G17 mags in rifle? On that same note, I don't use 33rd mags in my G19 since I use it in my holster a lot and it's twice the size of the gun. But going out to the range, shooting with friends, doing everything I do why my AR-9, I don't really interchange my mags. I love my AR-9, but would've gone with a Scorpion Evo or something else if I hadn't stuck to the "Perfect Pairs" concept. Get Glock mags. But if you're going with a new PCC, don't limit yourself to mags that fit in your pistol. |
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That sucks. FWIW I'm going Glock mag even though I don't like Glock pistols and won't own one. Why am I doing it then? Simple... a LOT of other folks own one. That means that they are relatively inexpensive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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2 G17s & 1 G19
I don't use 33rd mags in my pistols and I probably wouldn't use 17rd mags in my 9mm AR's so I have stuck with the Colt pattern and Metalform mags |
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If you are going to build a dedicated 9mm rig, Glock all the way.
If you are going to SBR one lower, and use it for multiple calibers, get the top loading Hahn block for Colt mags, and call it a day. Mine has been absolutely flawless. Brownells Colt pattern mags have been great and are available at a really decent price. If you haven't done the 9mm AR route yet, give it a shot, it is very addicting, and it gets cheaper everyday. |
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This.....have had a 9mm AR for over 10 years View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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View Quote Prior to Wilson, the only other one that announced a mag compatible carbine (that I can recall) was Keltec and I don't even know if that made it to market.... may have. Granted, it is not an AR platform.... |
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With the Military dumping the Beretta a lot of Mags should be available and the Wilson is only $2000
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With the Military dumping the Beretta a lot of Mags should be available and the Wilson is only $2000 View Quote I remember when ya could put an AR together for less then $400. Heck, I bought a used 20" upper for under $250 and "new" was only $300 back then..... Yes, Wilson has the right to charge what they want, plus they are "Wilson". Quality. And I assume that they are the only ones who offer a Beretta version magwell at the moment. Funny how the pics on their site are all of the Glock mag well version.... I just shake my head at the prices I see now that are considered "normal", be it pistol or long gun.... (I have a Beretta, got one of those used surplus Italian police ones.... looks like crap, but shoots. Bad thing is, it is the European mag release.... bottom of the grip button vs the higher one they have now....) I wonder what old Glaston Glock thinks about AR's using his pistol's mag.... lol. |
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Leaving aside mag compatibility if you already have Glocks (which I don't, but I've been weighing getting a G17 or G34) does one have any clear advantages over the other? Do you just like one better than the other? View Quote I've got both. If I were doing it again I'd just go with Glock mags. The only thing I don't like about them is the angle you insert them at, but that isn't a huge deal. On the Colt mag side my lower with the mag adapter works well. The dedicated Colt mag lower is a steaming piece of crap. |
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Colt style - because you can fit more ammo in less pouch real estate and those mags make for great protection. ( I was hit by a ricochet that almost knocked me over - mag pouch took the hit no problem.)
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I've got both, had the Colt pattern (Hahn block) for years, no issues feeding any type of ammo.
Recently did a Glock setup on a PSA dedicated lower (non-lrho), also no issues but so far only ran 115, 124 & 147 fmj. Mags for both are plentiful and costs about the same. Glock does have the advantage of using cheap Korean drums although I had to file down one of the feed lips to clear the mag catch. LRHO has always been reliable in my Colt pattern which is handy as it doesn't like to seat a full mag on a closed bolt. Glock pattern seats on a closed both with no issues. Two things that make me lean towards the Colt pattern is the feed angle which is flat and parallel to the chamber, and the feed ramps on the Hahn block. The Glock has to feed upwards at an angle and has a large gap to clear with no ramps. So you chamber should have a generous bevel to help with feeding. The only other difference I see is that Glock 17 rnd factory mags (the best option IMHO) are always on sale and easy to find cheap. 30 round factory Glock mags are harder to find on sale although last sale I saw theyw ere available for $25 a pop vs $50. 30 round Colt pattern mags are the cheapest & most plentiful, whether Metalform (the best) or ASC. But 20s are harder to come by and usually cost a few dollars more. |
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Ive tried the colt pattern and couldnt get it to work to save my life. I blame obama. i got rid of it to save myself the frustration.
This year i put together a glock pattern from PSA for under $600. Works like a champ and have had zero issues after 400 rds or so. Glock mags are readily available in a variety of round counts and i just picked up a glock 19, so i have extra mags all around. |
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I went with Glock pattern for the compatibility reasons, and I already had a ton of ETS and G18 mags. I'm using the Runner Runner lower and so far my lrbho mod has been perfect with everything except Magpul mags. The follower on the Magpuls tilts down and won't engage the trip. Interestingly, they do the same about 50% of the time in my Glocks as well and won't lock the slide open.
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I have both a PSA 9mm AR and a Colt 9mm AR. If I only bought one it would be the one that uses Glock mags.
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