KAK AR15 9mm magwell adapter report

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Posted: 3/13/2017 3:38:57 PM EDT

Just received the KAK $100 9mm adapter for Colt style magazines also a 8 oz extended steel 9mm buffer from KAK. The picture on the KAK website makes the adapter look like it was a top mount adapter but not, the adapter does not have the ears on top like the one pictured on the KAK website. The adapter inserts from the bottom so no need to remove the bolt release lever. Had to remove the screw and washer on the adapter top to slide up into the magazine well and reinstall screw and washer.

Nicely finished, appears to be all metal and slides in easily without any binding. There is a last round hold open feature with the adapter. The ejector has a bit of side to side play built in to it and is spring loaded. There are two set screws on the lower front of the adapter to snug it up in the magwell but was a snug fit without them turned out but ran them out anyway. Have not shot it yet but it sure looks good to me, have a ACS magazine in it in the picture.

Posted: 3/13/2017 6:20:36 PM EDT

[#1]

Come back and tell us how it works and with what upper/specs/parts.
I may decide to convert mine to a similar bottom load setup.

Posted: 3/13/2017 8:02:09 PM EDT

[#2]

This is a direct knock off of rudy's macon armory block as well, just FYI.

Posted: 3/14/2017 7:41:08 AM EDT

[#3]

I like the top screw retainer, IMHO a better setup than the set screw.
Looks like you could drop the height of the block if needed with more washers if the screw is long enough.

Posted: 3/14/2017 8:12:43 AM EDT

[#4]

I'm curious as well to see this tried with various parts. PSA would be most interesting to me.

Posted: 3/14/2017 12:39:35 PM EDT

[#5]

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This is a direct knock off of rudy's macon armory block as well, just FYI.

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I haven't followed KAK or Macon long enough to know who's block came first, but I did ask for clarification in another thread and didn't see an answer posted. Both blocks appear to share some of the same components and any time you deal with a contract manufacturer, there is always a risk of "stuff" happening.

Anyway, KAK advertises a top loader on their website. I ordered one not long ago and received a top loader. A different user than OP ordered a KAK block a few weeks ago and received one of Macon's bottom load blocks that Rudy contracts from KAK. I wonder if this new report is just another case of KAK shipping out the wrong block by mistake, or if they no longer sell the top loader that is on their website and are just shipping Macon's bottom loader now.

Has anyone that has received one of these contacted KAK and asked why they didn't get the top loader that KAK is advertising? If so, what was KAK's response?

Posted: 3/14/2017 1:14:15 PM EDT

[#6]

Didn't see both a top loader and bottom loader adapter listing on KAK, just the one $100 adapter with a picture of a top loader. Just received the bottom loader KAK on 3/13. Am happier with the bottom loader as there is no need to drive out the roll pin and remove the bolt release to install it. Had a FedEX delivery of a 9mm JSE upper today and new upper and KAK lower fit together well, ejector dragged a little on the bolt until I removed the washer under the top bolt in the KAK and the whole adapter dropped slightly in the lower magazine well.

Posted: 3/14/2017 4:12:01 PM EDT

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Didn't see both a top loader and bottom loader adapter listing on KAK, just the one $100 adapter with a picture of a top loader. Just received the bottom loader KAK on 3/13. Am happier with the bottom loader as there is no need to drive out the roll pin and remove the bolt release to install it.

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Sounds so Seinfeldian...

You ordered something that wasn't really what you wanted and you ended up getting what you really wanted and saving ~$60 in the process. Did you buy any lotto tickets yesterday?

Posted: 3/14/2017 4:43:17 PM EDT

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I haven't followed KAK or Macon long enough to know who's block came first, but I did ask for clarification in another thread and didn't see an answer posted. Both blocks appear to share some of the same components and any time you deal with a contract manufacturer, there is always a risk of "stuff" happening.

Anyway, KAK advertises a top loader on their website. I ordered one not long ago and received a top loader. A different user than OP ordered a KAK block a few weeks ago and received one of Macon's bottom load blocks that Rudy contracts from KAK. I wonder if this new report is just another case of KAK shipping out the wrong block by mistake, or if they no longer sell the top loader that is on their website and are just shipping Macon's bottom loader now.

Has anyone that has received one of these contacted KAK and asked why they didn't get the top loader that KAK is advertising? If so, what was KAK's response?

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I thought Macon's block came first, but I don't know? Didn't know Rudy contracts from KAK, I thought he just said he contracts the work out, didn't say to who?

Either way, I bought one from Rudy, as the $100 KAK block was OOS when I wanted to order, I emailed and asked was told a week, and that week turned into a month, so Rudy got the extra $60, cause he's a nice guy

Maybe Rudy will set this strait?

Posted: 3/15/2017 10:31:32 AM EDT

[#9]

Here it is together waiting on a red dot

Posted: 3/15/2017 9:34:17 PM EDT

[#10]

I e-mailed KAK about a part number for the bottom load mag adapter, but just got a photocopy of the top load item from their web page... no written correspondence

Posted: 3/16/2017 9:03:06 AM EDT

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I e-mailed KAK about a part number for the bottom load mag adapter, but just got a photocopy of the top load item from their web page... no written correspondence

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Give Kurt a call directly. The one time I had a question for him that's what I did and he got back to me pretty quickly.

Posted: 3/16/2017 1:07:33 PM EDT

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Just got off the phone with KAK. I was told "We do not offer a bottom loading 9mm mag block." I informed them that I had just read about, and saw pictures, from someone who ordered the top loader and received a bottom loader earlier this very week, and they they said "They must be confusing us with someone else."

IMO, it sounds like they're playing dumb. I'd rather spend the extra 50 bucks with Macon and know what I'm getting.

Posted: 3/16/2017 1:42:09 PM EDT

[#13]

Based on this thread sounds like the block pictured above was a Macon that KAK shipped by accident.

Would like to get that cleared up just so if the OP has good things to say, the right vendor gets credit.

Posted: 3/16/2017 3:12:23 PM EDT

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Based on this thread sounds like the block pictured above was a Macon that KAK shipped by accident.

Would like to get that cleared up just so if the OP has good things to say, the right vendor gets credit.

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That was kind of the whole point of my asking when the first report of this surfaced a few weeks ago and then again with this thread.

Is it happening by accident, or by "accident"?

Posted: 3/16/2017 4:49:14 PM EDT

[#15]

All I got to say is hrmmmmmm

Posted: 3/16/2017 8:58:05 PM EDT

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That was kind of the whole point of my asking when the first report of this surfaced a few weeks ago and then again with this thread.

Is it happening by accident, or by "accident"?

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Based on this thread sounds like the block pictured above was a Macon that KAK shipped by accident.

Would like to get that cleared up just so if the OP has good things to say, the right vendor gets credit.

That was kind of the whole point of my asking when the first report of this surfaced a few weeks ago and then again with this thread.

Is it happening by accident, or by "accident"?

The block that I received from KAK in January is the same as the one the OP received.

Gary

Posted: 3/16/2017 9:45:13 PM EDT

[#17]

KAK isn't messing with anyone.....I didn't specify that the subcontractor couldn't sell the mag block with the design improvements......so it isn't a problem......Just applied the retention mechanism form the 45 blocks to 9mm.
Rudy

Posted: 3/16/2017 10:13:18 PM EDT

[#18]

Thanks for the explanation Rudy.

Dave N

Posted: 3/16/2017 10:36:35 PM EDT

[#19]

And now we know the rest of the story

Posted: 3/17/2017 8:40:37 AM EDT

[#20]

I ordered mine directly from Rudy...

Posted: 3/17/2017 8:49:50 AM EDT

[#21]

?

Clear as mud, I guess. Does that mean the block was designed by KAK as a top loader, then design improvements by Rudy turned it into a bottom loader?

I don't want to assume KAK is purposely messing with anyone, but it just seems like something is rotten in the state of Denmark. If a company advertises a product, they should deliver what they advertised. It is poor form to play silly games and say customers are confused and are the ones that don't know what is going on when it seems as though the company is the one that doesn't know what they are actually shipping.

Posted: 3/27/2017 12:54:08 PM EDT

[#22]

Ordered and received the KAK block last week. Still advertised as the fixed top loader, but I received the bottom loader type with the screw retention. I actually prefer the bottom loader and it was what I was hoping to receive after seeing the last few posts about them. It must be all they are shipping now.

Posted: 3/27/2017 7:29:11 PM EDT

[#23]

I ordered one at the beginning of March as soon as they came back in stock. I got the bottom loading one.

Posted: 3/31/2017 6:50:54 PM EDT

[#24]

Just recieved my mag block today and it was the bottom loader as well. Slid into the magwell with no issues. Happy with the purchase so far.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - KAK AR15 9mm magwell adapter report

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