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Well crap. I was hoping it wouldn't look like that. I'm using the spring they sent and genuine OEM Glock mags, various caps, 33's, 15's and 17's.
I guess I could start playing around with the bolt catch spring and see what I can come up with. Maybe clip a coil off or something. Quoted:
Did you install the replacement spring they send? Also korean mags are usually crap the sgm ones or okay. Glock mags hold fine in my build. View Quote |
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Well crap. I was hoping it wouldn't look like that. I'm using the spring they sent and genuine OEM Glock mags, various caps, 33's, 15's and 17's. I guess I could start playing around with the bolt catch spring and see what I can come up with. Maybe clip a coil off or something. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Well crap. I was hoping it wouldn't look like that. I'm using the spring they sent and genuine OEM Glock mags, various caps, 33's, 15's and 17's. I guess I could start playing around with the bolt catch spring and see what I can come up with. Maybe clip a coil off or something. Quoted:
Did you install the replacement spring they send? Also korean mags are usually crap the sgm ones or okay. Glock mags hold fine in my build. Does it work with just an empty mag in the lower? I would say if it doesn't clip a coil or 2 if it does then you might have a bolt cycle issue. You could also try their technical support. |
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Hate to be thread crapping but it might help someone else.
On an empty mag handcycling the action it would catch rarely unless I really slammed it back. Slow cycling by hand and I could see the bolt catch had another 1/16" of an inch travel outwards that wasn't happening, it wasn't getting stuck, it was going as far as the spring would push it, it just wasn't enough. As in it needed to be pushed further. When it did catch it seemed to be due to the force of the cycling rocking the catch that last little bit out. So I knocked the pin out and stretched the spring a bit, about an 1/8" longer and put everything back. Difference was night and day. It catches every time now hand cycling whether I slow cycle it or fast cycle it. I may take it apart again and shim the hole or the detent instead of depending on the stretching to stick. Range time will really tell the tale but things are looking a lot better. Be another couple of weeks at least before i can get out and shoot, stupid job. The problem appears to be one of a few things or a combination of tolerance stacking. Either the bolt catch detent hole was drilled a little deep or the supplied QC10 replacement spring is a little short or my bolt catch is out of spec (LPK was from PSA) or some combination of the three. Quoted:
Does it work with just an empty mag in the lower? I would say if it doesn't clip a coil or 2 if it does then you might have a bolt cycle issue. You could also try their technical support. View Quote |
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This thread has become the "why doesn't my QC10 upper work" thread
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Quoted: Update on LRBHO uppper from NFA's facebook:
https://newfrontierarmory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/9mmLRBHO-02-300x300.jpg View Quote Clever girl! They put the activation lever on the outside of the upper...so it should be able to use any standard AR BHO, including BAD levers, perhaps... |
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The way they integrated LRBHO into the upper looks so hokey. I was
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You won't see it behind the bolt release so what does it matter how it looks? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That looks like shit, it better work flawlessly You won't see it behind the bolt release so what does it matter how it looks? I was referring more to the black bar to the left of the bolt catch, but that will blend in on an anodized upper. I think I'm ok with the looks of it on a black upper. But I'll prolly still user a larger seekins enhanced bolt catch to cover some of that up. |
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When NFA has everything ready to go is when I start building my dream 9mm pistol. Waiting is no fun :/
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JBO has some new 9mm goodies in stock, including this 4" New Frontier 9mm barrel which will what I use in my pistol build
http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/New_Frontier_Armory_4_MATCH_Grade_9mm_Barrel_p/nfa-9mm-match-4.htm |
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Finally finished up my 9mm build with the NFA lower. Runs perfect except I can't insert a full pmag with a closed bolt. I don't have any other mags to try. Anyone else have an issue with that or might it be a problem with the homemade glock cut on my bolt?
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Full mag on a closed bolt is always going to be tough on a 9 in my limited (2) experience. You're having to compress an already tightly compressed spring. If it works okay on an open bolt or an empty mag and it hand cycles without hitting the mag then it's should just be the amount of 'oomph' it takes to compress that spring that extra bit so it'll go up far enough to catch and lock.
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Full mag on a closed bolt is always going to be tough on a 9 in my limited (2) experience. You're having to compress an already tightly compressed spring. If it works okay on an open bolt or an empty mag and it hand cycles without hitting the mag then it's should just be the amount of 'oomph' it takes to compress that spring that extra bit so it'll go up far enough to catch and lock. View Quote This. I have a 9mm carbine using a Hahn magwell block. When the bolt is back, no problem putting in a Metalform 32rnd mag fully loaded. Bolt closed, I have to lean on the mag some for it to engage the mag catch. Doesn't affect the operation at all...eats whatever I load into it. |
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Joe Bob Outfitters has the New Frontier 80% lowers back in stock.
They've been out of these for awhile. A perfect gift for Mom or Grandma during the winter season when they can't get out into the garden. |
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Update on LRBHO uppper from NFA's facebook: Good Morning! We just wanted to drop you guys a quick note with an update on the pistol caliber LRBHO uppers. We had a few hiccups with sub-contractors that were making a few small parts for us, but we found a new contractor that is expediting the order and we should have the parts very soon. There has been a huge demand for this product and we’re working the machines 24/7 making the uppers as fast as we possibly can now. We have some large dealer PO’s that will be getting filled, and as we have sufficient stock we will be adding them to the website immediately for smaller dealer orders and retail sales. You will be notified in small groups as they are available with an e-mail link to the product. Please pay close attention to the links you receive as you may be notified on both the RAW and anodized models availability. The first few batches are guaranteed to sell out very quickly because of the amount of people on the wait list for both the RAW finish and anodized versions of this product. If you don’t get to order in time when you do receive the notification, please click to join the waitlist again on the product you’re waiting for and you will be notified as soon as they come back in stock. We appreciate your patience and loyalty and promise that our new billet 9mm line won’t disappoint you! And as always the team at New Frontier Armory would like to thank you for your business and continued support! https://newfrontierarmory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/9mmLRBHO-02-300x300.jpg View Quote Just a FYI for anyone thats been waiting on the LRBHO upper. I've been on the waiting list for a few months. I received email notification Sunday that my number came up on the waiting list for the raw upper. Ordered it and should be getting it in the next few days. I went with the raw upper as I'll be mating it to a 80% lower I got a few months back and will re-finish them sometime this spring when the weather gets warmer. |
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Just a FYI for anyone thats been waiting on the LRBHO upper. I've been on the waiting list for a few months. I received email notification Sunday that my number came up on the waiting list for the raw upper. Ordered it and should be getting it in the next few days. I went with the raw upper as I'll be mating it to a 80% lower I got a few months back and will re-finish them sometime this spring when the weather gets warmer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Update on LRBHO uppper from NFA's facebook: Good Morning! We just wanted to drop you guys a quick note with an update on the pistol caliber LRBHO uppers. We had a few hiccups with sub-contractors that were making a few small parts for us, but we found a new contractor that is expediting the order and we should have the parts very soon. There has been a huge demand for this product and we’re working the machines 24/7 making the uppers as fast as we possibly can now. We have some large dealer PO’s that will be getting filled, and as we have sufficient stock we will be adding them to the website immediately for smaller dealer orders and retail sales. You will be notified in small groups as they are available with an e-mail link to the product. Please pay close attention to the links you receive as you may be notified on both the RAW and anodized models availability. The first few batches are guaranteed to sell out very quickly because of the amount of people on the wait list for both the RAW finish and anodized versions of this product. If you don’t get to order in time when you do receive the notification, please click to join the waitlist again on the product you’re waiting for and you will be notified as soon as they come back in stock. We appreciate your patience and loyalty and promise that our new billet 9mm line won’t disappoint you! And as always the team at New Frontier Armory would like to thank you for your business and continued support! https://newfrontierarmory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/9mmLRBHO-02-300x300.jpg Just a FYI for anyone thats been waiting on the LRBHO upper. I've been on the waiting list for a few months. I received email notification Sunday that my number came up on the waiting list for the raw upper. Ordered it and should be getting it in the next few days. I went with the raw upper as I'll be mating it to a 80% lower I got a few months back and will re-finish them sometime this spring when the weather gets warmer. This is good news. Just to confirm, the LRBHO upper is multi-cal (i.e. small frame glock) and not strictly 9mm, correct? **EDIT** Answering my own question...multi-cal |
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I saw a local dealer has a complete lower. Some questions please:
-What is with the 1/2x36 thread pitch on their barrels from NFA? -Can you use any barrels with their receivers? I want to SBR it and use an Octane 9 on it. |
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I saw a local dealer has a complete lower. Some questions please: -What is with the 1/2x36 thread pitch on their barrels from NFA? -Can you use any barrels with their receivers? I want to SBR it and use an Octane 9 on it. View Quote My understanding is that 1/2-36 is commonly used on 9 mm barrels to "idiot proof" them as 1/2-28 threads would accept an undersized .223/5.56 through hole muzzle device which is not a desirable installation. Of course, there are also a number of 9 mm capable muzzle devices with female 1/2-28 threads. The New Frontier Armory 9 mm Glock magazine lower based firearm that I assembled includes a DPMS Lo-Pro upper receiver having a Spikes Tactical 9 mm barrel (which has a 1/2-28 threaded muzzle with a thread protector installed). So far (about 50 rounds), the performance has been satisfactory. Best of luck with your project! MHO, YMMV, etc. |
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Just a FYI for anyone thats been waiting on the LRBHO upper. I've been on the waiting list for a few months. I received email notification Sunday that my number came up on the waiting list for the raw upper. Ordered it and should be getting it in the next few days. I went with the raw upper as I'll be mating it to a 80% lower I got a few months back and will re-finish them sometime this spring when the weather gets warmer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Update on LRBHO uppper from NFA's facebook: Good Morning! We just wanted to drop you guys a quick note with an update on the pistol caliber LRBHO uppers. We had a few hiccups with sub-contractors that were making a few small parts for us, but we found a new contractor that is expediting the order and we should have the parts very soon. There has been a huge demand for this product and we’re working the machines 24/7 making the uppers as fast as we possibly can now. We have some large dealer PO’s that will be getting filled, and as we have sufficient stock we will be adding them to the website immediately for smaller dealer orders and retail sales. You will be notified in small groups as they are available with an e-mail link to the product. Please pay close attention to the links you receive as you may be notified on both the RAW and anodized models availability. The first few batches are guaranteed to sell out very quickly because of the amount of people on the wait list for both the RAW finish and anodized versions of this product. If you don’t get to order in time when you do receive the notification, please click to join the waitlist again on the product you’re waiting for and you will be notified as soon as they come back in stock. We appreciate your patience and loyalty and promise that our new billet 9mm line won’t disappoint you! And as always the team at New Frontier Armory would like to thank you for your business and continued support! https://newfrontierarmory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/9mmLRBHO-02-300x300.jpg Just a FYI for anyone thats been waiting on the LRBHO upper. I've been on the waiting list for a few months. I received email notification Sunday that my number came up on the waiting list for the raw upper. Ordered it and should be getting it in the next few days. I went with the raw upper as I'll be mating it to a 80% lower I got a few months back and will re-finish them sometime this spring when the weather gets warmer. Did you get the upper yet? If so, how is it working out? |
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Seems like NFA is taking their sweet ass time with getting those uppers made.
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About to order a joe bob lower but do I wait for this unicorn upper or just run a std upper and roll with it
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Gosh darn it they pics, now start selling the damn things https://newfrontierarmory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/C-9-SS-LRBHO-01.jpg View Quote My stamp should be approved next week, this is that last thing I need |
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Same here. I want to build a pistol but they're taking a long time..
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Has anyone actually ever seen one of these (the BHO upper) in the wild, or even a review?
I'm interested, but need to be sure it actually works as advertised... |
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Anyone know of other brands that use the small frame NFA lower besides Runner Runner Guns and Joe Bob? |
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Just noticed this in the description of the uppers, I've been on the wait list for months and never got an in stock email for the LRBHO models. I asked about dealers they have sold them to already and NFA never responded to me.
"ATTENTION CUSTOMERS: This product is in EXTREME backorder status. We are sending out uppers weekly on large distributor and dealer purchase orders as well as allotting some for the website weekly as they return from anodizing. If you join the wait list you will be notified immediately when inventory is added. If it sells out before you’re able to order, you will need to join the wait list again if you would like to be notified when they are re-stocked. We have ramped up production on these products and hope to be caught up with all dealer and retail orders by 15 February 2016. Thank you for your patience!" |
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Last update from RunnerRunner is "a couple weeks out", but take that with a rain of salt. They have been a couple weeks out for a couple months now...
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Just noticed this in the description of the uppers, I've been on the wait list for months and never got an in stock email for the LRBHO models. I asked about dealers they have sold them to already and NFA never responded to me. "ATTENTION CUSTOMERS: This product is in EXTREME backorder status. We are sending out uppers weekly on large distributor and dealer purchase orders as well as allotting some for the website weekly as they return from anodizing. If you join the wait list you will be notified immediately when inventory is added. If it sells out before you’re able to order, you will need to join the wait list again if you would like to be notified when they are re-stocked. We have ramped up production on these products and hope to be caught up with all dealer and retail orders by 15 February 2016. Thank you for your patience!" View Quote That was the reason I asked the question above. There's zero evidence that these have actually been sent out to anyone, anywhere. No big deal, really. Let's hope NFA is tweaking and perfecting the mechanism and in six weeks they have more than enough stock for everyone. |
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View Quote Damn you're fast, I came here to post this. I just got the e-mail from them. |
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View Quote Ha they finally come in stock, just set up a page tracker for that a hour ago. |
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I just picked their side charging upper from this website. It shipped same day and was at my door in two days.
http://www.wcarmory.com/new-frontier-armory Hope this helps somebody :) |
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That's not the same upper with the "last round bolt hold open" feature for their 9mm lowers that everyone here is talking about. The side charger is nice too but it's not what we've been waiting on NFA to finish. I'm holding out for some early reviews on how well the LRBHO feature works.
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Got my LRBHO upper today and finally got my rifle together. Unfortunately there is some sort of issue between the bcg and the extractor (metal piece that sticks out the top of the lower). I cannot operator the bolt, it looks like the BCG is hitting the extractor when it should be sliding over it. I took the extractor off and can move the bcg back and forth with easy. Has anyone else had an issue with the extractor?
Edit: I had originally taken the ejector off when I thought about having my lower cerakoted, didn't end up happening. I just notice when I put it back on and tighten it the front part had cocked upward causing an interference with the BCG. Still had a little trouble so I filed now the ejector a little bit and the BCG moving freely, but now ejector will not ejector rounds. This is the BCG I have. |
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Got my LRBHO upper today and finally got my rifle together. Unfortunately there is some sort of issue between the bcg and the extractor (metal piece that sticks out the top of the lower). I cannot operator the bolt, it looks like the BCG is hitting the extractor when it should be sliding over it. I took the extractor off and can move the bcg back and forth with easy. Has anyone else had an issue with the extractor? View Quote How much is it hitting it? A lot or a little? I had a similar problem with mine building a 40 carbine. Had around over the back of the extractor and take some off the top and sides so it would not drag on the BCG. Not to mention, had major issues with magazines fitting the magwell properly. Finally got everything to run but it took a hell of a lot of work to make it happen. I won't buy another one of these from New Frontier. |
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I received instructions with my Joe Bob Spartan lower that stated you may have to adjust the ejector. You have to loosen the screws and slightly lower it until it barely clears.
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Got my LRBHO upper today and finally got my rifle together. Unfortunately there is some sort of issue between the bcg and the extractor (metal piece that sticks out the top of the lower). I cannot operator the bolt, it looks like the BCG is hitting the extractor when it should be sliding over it. I took the extractor off and can move the bcg back and forth with easy. Has anyone else had an issue with the extractor? Edit: I had originally taken the ejector off when I thought about having my lower cerakoted, didn't end up happening. I just notice when I put it back on and tighten it the front part had cocked upward causing an interference with the BCG. Still had a little trouble so I filed now the ejector a little bit and the BCG moving freely, but now ejector will not ejector rounds. This is the BCG I have. View Quote How reliable is the lrbho mechanism? |
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I received instructions with my Joe Bob Spartan lower that stated you may have to adjust the ejector. You have to loosen the screws and slightly lower it until it barely clears. View Quote Got mine when they first came out and didn't get those, NFA directed me to them, I'll try to figure it out, I filed it down some hopefully I didn't mess it up too bad. |
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Quoted: Got my LRBHO upper today and finally got my rifle together. Unfortunately there is some sort of issue between the bcg and the extractor (metal piece that sticks out the top of the lower). I cannot operator the bolt, it looks like the BCG is hitting the extractor when it should be sliding over it. I took the extractor off and can move the bcg back and forth with easy. Has anyone else had an issue with the extractor?
Edit: I had originally taken the ejector off when I thought about having my lower cerakoted, didn't end up happening. I just notice when I put it back on and tighten it the front part had cocked upward causing an interference with the BCG. Still had a little trouble so I filed now the ejector a little bit and the BCG moving freely, but now ejector will not ejector rounds. This is the BCG I have. How reliable is the lrbho mechanism? They've just been released. Give it a few weeks & we'll know. |
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