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Posted: 8/3/2015 11:37:36 PM EDT
Been a long time since I even looked into the 9mm AR world. IIRC the last time was when the bottom loading VM HyTec block had people's attention and C-products hadn't started producing mags yet.
So who's now the go-to for drop in blocks? I'm thinking of dropping it into my SBR when the mood suits me and for doing some cheaper destructive testing of some homemade polymer lowers. |
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Quoted: IDK, my VM is still rocking. View Quote I was unhappy to find out that they went belly up and are no longer being made. Would have been perfect for what I'm wanting to do. I want something that's fairly reliable, but more importantly something that is easy to convert back and forth. BHO is nice, but not necessary. |
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I don't know the manufacturer, but a buddy of mine has an insert that fits in to the mag well and secures with an Allen screw.
Once it is installed it's invisible and I think it takes UZI mags. His receiver is registered and the 9mm upper runs flawlessly with that device in place. I wish I had more info, OP. |
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RRA is my go to...
I have built 4 for myself and others. ALL are great runners ! ! Spikes are OK, as I used one and it ran well. AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE, AMERICAN SPIRIT ARMS. Got it at Brownells. Brownells only sells the best, RIGHT ? I almost didn't build another one, as the one I tried it on was a JAM A RAMA. Put on a RRA and the rest is history. 9 m.m. is my favorite of my AR's I have 9's as well as ... .22 LR 7.62X39 300 blk 5.56 They are like my children, man . |
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This is the correct choice. Mine has run flawlessly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes About that whole pesky out of stock thing though..... I'll give them a call after work and see what they ETA is on the next batch. |
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Palmetto has been teasing us with a glock compatible block in the near future. I'm holding out hope..
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Quoted: Been a long time since I even looked into the 9mm AR world. IIRC the last time was when the bottom loading VM HyTec block had people's attention and C-products hadn't started producing mags yet.
So who's now the go-to for drop in blocks? I'm thinking of dropping it into my SBR when the mood suits me and for doing some cheaper destructive testing of some homemade polymer lowers. View Quote Fruity lowers? IIRC, the Uzi mag adapter isn't being made anymore. You can make one out of a standard Colt mag adapter & an Uzi lower flat or magwell. |
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the email I got said 12 to 14 weeks for them to come back in. they had an issue with the last batch making them unusable.
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Quoted: Fruity lowers? IIRC, the Uzi mag adapter isn't being made anymore. You can make one out of a standard Colt mag adapter & an Uzi lower flat or magwell. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Been a long time since I even looked into the 9mm AR world. IIRC the last time was when the bottom loading VM HyTec block had people's attention and C-products hadn't started producing mags yet. So who's now the go-to for drop in blocks? I'm thinking of dropping it into my SBR when the mood suits me and for doing some cheaper destructive testing of some homemade polymer lowers. Fruity lowers? IIRC, the Uzi mag adapter isn't being made anymore. You can make one out of a standard Colt mag adapter & an Uzi lower flat or magwell. The fruitiest . |
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Hahn bottom loader is excellent, use Colt or Metalform magazines.
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How good/bad are the pro-mag ones?
Hahn are my 1st choice, but that price compared to the AAM one (when in stock), is a tough pill to swallow since this wont be going into a dedicated lower. |
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How good/bad are the pro-mag ones? Hahn are my 1st choice, but that price compared to the AAM one (when in stock), is a tough pill to swallow since this wont be going into a dedicated lower. View Quote My promag block works good with metalform mags. I think you can cut the "ears" off the promag block and then you can swap it out without removing the bolt catch. |
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This is the correct choice. Mine has run flawlessly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I'm assuming that is a top mount? Does the bolt catch need to be removed to install it? How does it compare to the Hahn dedicated block? Nevermind - googled the answers |
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I'm assuming that is a top mount? Does the bolt catch need to be removed to install it? How does it compare to the Hahn dedicated block? Nevermind - googled the answers View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I'm assuming that is a top mount? Does the bolt catch need to be removed to install it? How does it compare to the Hahn dedicated block? Nevermind - googled the answers I'll Answer any way. The AMM Block is a bottom loading that locks in place the rubber stops. My room Mate and I have one and we have had no issue with them. The look very simular to the Spike block that was discontinued. MAHA |
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anyone built one with the PSA 9mm pistol kit yet?
i have a personal interest in that specific kit. |
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Mine came from RRA with the upper. The set screw pushes out one or two pins that hold the block firmly in place (it has been a while since I installed it). The set screw doesn't actually touch the lower. It hasn't moved a fraction of an inch since I put it in. I have 6 mags that regularly cycle through the gun, so it has had a lot of testing. Modified Uzi mags work with it, but Metalform/Brownells mags have the bolt hold open feature, which is not underrated. They seem to be more reliable than Uzi mags.
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anyone built one with the PSA 9mm pistol kit yet? i have a personal interest in that specific kit. View Quote I have their rifle kit being delivered next week, with one of their stripped lowers for a customer. I will give you an update after it's put together and tested. |
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I have their rifle kit being delivered next week, with one of their stripped lowers for a customer. I will give you an update after it's put together and tested. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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anyone built one with the PSA 9mm pistol kit yet? i have a personal interest in that specific kit. I have their rifle kit being delivered next week, with one of their stripped lowers for a customer. I will give you an update after it's put together and tested. AWESOME!! |
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I chased this rabbit all around after ordering several Anderson Lowers. AHM said in their email it would be late October before the next batch came out. They will process the request folks have sent in once the materials are sourced and ready.
SO on the low end you get the PSA non adjustable unit, or go with the more expensive Hahn unit for $150 or so from Brownells. Well after ordering my Lowers, parts kit, MOE stock and Hahn Mag block.....I learn BlacK Creek Precision has a dedicated 9mm Lower on sale for $125. All of sudden the dedicated lower is starting to look more cost effective. And then /I decided to do the right thing and just get one of each. So after the Labor day sale, I expect to have a complete upper and see which platform runs the smoothest. Maybe they will both run fine and ...then what? Many step have been taken but the journey is far from being complete. |
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saw that too, and considered it, because the stuff I bought is burning a hole in my pocket trying to get it to run waiting for that mag block.
I am holding fast because apparently some mags may or may not work on dedicated lowers. since the mag block is adjustible, you can make up from some mag issues. I already bought the mags so I am going to wait now for the "right" mag block to run them in. |
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Quoted:
I chased this rabbit all around after ordering several Anderson Lowers. AHM said in their email it would be late October before the next batch came out. They will process the request folks have sent in once the materials are sourced and ready. SO on the low end you get the PSA non adjustable unit, or go with the more expensive Hahn unit for $150 or so from Brownells. Well after ordering my Lowers, parts kit, MOE stock and Hahn Mag block.....I learn BlacK Creek Precision has a dedicated 9mm Lower on sale for $125. All of sudden the dedicated lower is starting to look more cost effective. And then /I decided to do the right thing and just get one of each. So after the Labor day sale, I expect to have a complete upper and see which platform runs the smoothest. Maybe they will both run fine and ...then what? Many step have been taken but the journey is far from being complete. View Quote If you decide to SBR a lower, I like the idea of the top load mag block because it's easy to switch calibers. I can just take out the mag block, and switch the buffer and upper to 556/300. |
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LOOKS GOOD!!
**does it lock back on an empty mag? I'm interested in the range report to find about how the PSA mags worked.. (I hear that they work well with their kits) Mama's Birthday, Our Anniversary, and my youngest daughter's birthday are coming up, but after that.. I'll have one of these on my bench. |
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Quoted: LOOKS GOOD!! **does it lock back on an empty mag? I'm interested in the range report to find about how the PSA mags worked.. (I hear that they work well with their kits) Mama's Birthday, Our Anniversary, and my youngest daughter's birthday are coming up, but after that.. I'll have one of these on my bench. View Quote I also had the bolt ramped. |
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Quoted: When I was policing up my brass I found the case shown below.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/18_Zulu/9mm%20AR15/HPIM0678.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/18_Zulu/9mm%20AR15/HPIM0674.jpg It appears to have fired when it was not fully chambered. It may have been a function of a high primer or the case not seating completely. I didn't notice anything unusual at the time, so I am not sure when it happened. In any case, it is a reloading error rather than a rifle error. View Quote Ummm. I don't think the blowback bolt has the same protections against an OOB as a locking AR bolt does. You positive it's your brass? Same headstamp? |
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Think it's one of the possible explanations for that brass, no? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: OOB?
(out of battery?) Think it's one of the possible explanations for that brass, no? I was asking about the nomenclature, not questioning the conclusion. I would think that if a bolt was out of battery during ignition, that it would be more likely to cause the bolt to blow backwards or dislodge the primer than re-shape the brass.. but I have absolutely NO IDEA.. I'm not a reloader, nor am I an engineer. |
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If you decide to SBR a lower, I like the idea of the top load mag block because it's easy to switch calibers. I can just take out the mag block, and switch the buffer and upper to 556/300. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I chased this rabbit all around after ordering several Anderson Lowers. AHM said in their email it would be late October before the next batch came out. They will process the request folks have sent in once the materials are sourced and ready. SO on the low end you get the PSA non adjustable unit, or go with the more expensive Hahn unit for $150 or so from Brownells. Well after ordering my Lowers, parts kit, MOE stock and Hahn Mag block.....I learn BlacK Creek Precision has a dedicated 9mm Lower on sale for $125. All of sudden the dedicated lower is starting to look more cost effective. And then /I decided to do the right thing and just get one of each. So after the Labor day sale, I expect to have a complete upper and see which platform runs the smoothest. Maybe they will both run fine and ...then what? Many step have been taken but the journey is far from being complete. If you decide to SBR a lower, I like the idea of the top load mag block because it's easy to switch calibers. I can just take out the mag block, and switch the buffer and upper to 556/300. |
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Ummm. I don't think the blowback bolt has the same protections against an OOB as a locking AR bolt does. You positive it's your brass? Same headstamp? View Quote |
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Check the chamber, you either have a case broke off or your ammo is not fully seating in the chamber, your lucky no cases blew out, stop and figure out WTF before you shoot her again. Reloads? A high primer = no fire not early fire, high primers will Not go off most of the time. They need to be flush or below the case head, this looks like ammo that will not drop in and out of chamber freely
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