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 Bizio 
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Posted: 7/18/2012 12:15:07 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I am in Italy and I found someone who is going to sell this Colt Sporter Target 223" serial ST0263–– I phoned to Colt Customer Service and they told me the rifle came out of factory in 1992-1993 so that it should be a pre-ban. Can you please look at the pictures and confirm me if it is worth or not to buy it ? I know price in USA would much cheaper than in Italy, but any idea please ? Why the rifle has no bayonet lock under the delta ? Thank you. Here are some pixs 
Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 7/18/2012 1:42:23 PM
[Last Edit: 7/18/2012 1:43:59 PM by Bizio]
I do apoligize if I maybe posted in wrong forum section.
Moderators, please move the thread in the proper section. Thanks Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 7/18/2012 2:06:58 PM
Nice looking Rifle.
Heres the correct area. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/523435_OFFICIAL_APPRAISAL_THREAD_REQUESTS_FOR_APPRAISALS_ONLY_IN_THIS_THREAD.html&page=10 |
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Posted: 7/18/2012 2:08:32 PM
Thank you for pointing me to the proper section.
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Posted: 7/18/2012 9:42:34 PM
[Last Edit: 7/18/2012 9:42:34 PM by coctailer]
Topic Moved
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desertmoon
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Posted: 7/18/2012 10:21:30 PM
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Very likely that is a Colt Model R6551. They are EXCELLENT rifles!!!!!!
Here is mine:  '] '] '] |
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Posted: 7/18/2012 10:24:00 PM
The lack of a Bayonet Lug pre-dates our Assault Weapons Bill by a few months....it may be that the lug was elimiated to meet export OR import controls of some countries. I am not sure, however.
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Posted: 7/19/2012 1:58:50 AM
Nice rifle yours, desertmoon.
Thank you for the info. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 7/19/2012 9:14:43 PM
I hope you get to purchase the one that you are looking at. You will love it.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 1:40:01 AM
[Last Edit: 7/20/2012 1:41:17 AM by Bizio]
Yep, I bought it yesterday.
You're perfectly right, it's a very nice rifle and quite rare in Italy. It was manufactured in 1992-1993 according to Colt Customer Service. It was imported to Italy in 1994. Only one owner who sold it to a dealer from which I bought it yesterday. 
I replaced the 3 gas rings just in case ... 
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Posted: 7/21/2012 7:28:19 PM
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!
Can you show me a picture of the right side of your rifle with the dust cover closed???? I want to see the area around your magazine release and your front pivot pin. There may be the possibility of a really nice ( and every inexpensive ) modification to your rifle that you will really like. Congratulations on your new and beautiful Colt rifle. |
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Posted: 7/21/2012 9:21:16 PM
Beautiful rifle, congratulations!
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Posted: 8/3/2012 3:22:49 PM
Originally Posted By desertmoon:
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! Can you show me a picture of the right side of your rifle with the dust cover closed???? I want to see the area around your magazine release and your front pivot pin. There may be the possibility of a really nice ( and every inexpensive ) modification to your rifle that you will really like. Congratulations on your new and beautiful Colt rifle. I do apologize bud for my late reply but I don't get notification email from this forum whenver a post is answered. 
Here is the picture you requiered, I hope this is what you wanted to see ... 
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Posted: 8/3/2012 3:23:29 PM
Originally Posted By Cycline3:
Beautiful rifle, congratulations! Thank you, Cycline3.  |
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Posted: 8/3/2012 3:46:47 PM
I really like the Italian proof marks on the lower receiver and barrel just in front of the sight tower. Is it me or the the trigger and hammer pins larger in diameter?
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Posted: 8/4/2012 12:36:39 AM
[Last Edit: 8/4/2012 12:37:57 AM by tiger222]
nice rifles gents!!
just something very comforting about them ;) 
Here's mine saying hello - NDS lower, RRA internals with two stage, all else Colt. shaved big plunger F/A |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 2:13:29 AM
Originally Posted By Bizio: Originally Posted By desertmoon: BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! Can you show me a picture of the right side of your rifle with the dust cover closed???? I want to see the area around your magazine release and your front pivot pin. There may be the possibility of a really nice ( and every inexpensive ) modification to your rifle that you will really like. Congratulations on your new and beautiful Colt rifle. I do apologize bud for my late reply but I don't get notification email from this forum whenver a post is answered. Here is the picture you requiered, I hope this is what you wanted to see ... http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7072/img5476ft.jpg Great news!!! Like my rifle, you could add an original style front pushpin, detent and spring. Your rifle is drilled for it!!!! Right now, your rifle has a front pin that is held in with a screw, so if you want to take the upper receiver off of the rifle, you must unscrew the front pin. BUT if you buy a front detent pin, a detent spring and a military ( or "normal") AR-15 front push pin you can make your rifle take down like an industry standard AR-15/M16. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 2:15:40 AM
Originally Posted By tiger222: nice rifles gents!! just something very comforting about them ;) http://i48.tinypic.com/dgrrfb.jpg Here's mine saying hello - NDS lower, RRA internals with two stage, all else Colt. shaved big plunger F/A LOOKS SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 2:55:09 AM
Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Great news!!! Like my rifle, you could add an original style front pushpin, detent and spring. Your rifle is drilled for it!!!! Right now, your rifle has a front pin that is held in with a screw, so if you want to take the upper receiver off of the rifle, you must unscrew the front pin. BUT if you buy a front detent pin, a detent spring and a military ( or "normal") AR-15 front push pin you can make your rifle take down like an industry standard AR-15/M16. Thank you, desertmoon. I thought all Colt Model R6551 could accept a milspec front detent pin. Anyway I prefer to keep it original as it is for collection reasons. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 2:55:53 AM
Originally Posted By tiger222:
nice rifles gents!! just something very comforting about them ;) http://i48.tinypic.com/dgrrfb.jpg Here's mine saying hello - NDS lower, RRA internals with two stage, all else Colt. shaved big plunger F/A Very nice ! |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 5:34:19 PM
My truck rifle
There are three things about it that I don't like though. 1. No bayonet lug from the factory 2. Oversized pins in fire control group 3. Stupid sear block... Plus side: 1-7 govt barrel Pre Ban It's a factory colt Case deflector, I'm left handed and it comes in handy I love mine and I shoot it more than my sp-1's. Good score and love the Italian proof marks. Last rifle I had with Italian proof marks was an M-1 garand made by pb beretta. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 8:22:56 PM
Originally Posted By Bizio: Originally Posted By desertmoon: Great news!!! Like my rifle, you could add an original style front pushpin, detent and spring. Your rifle is drilled for it!!!! Right now, your rifle has a front pin that is held in with a screw, so if you want to take the upper receiver off of the rifle, you must unscrew the front pin. BUT if you buy a front detent pin, a detent spring and a military ( or "normal") AR-15 front push pin you can make your rifle take down like an industry standard AR-15/M16. Thank you, desertmoon. I thought all Colt Model R6551 could accept a milspec front detent pin. Anyway I prefer to keep it original as it is for collection reasons. Ahh, excellent. Just thought you might like to know just in case you wanted to change it. Have you shot it yet???? |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 6:43:35 AM
Originally Posted By centurian318:
My truck rifle http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/842b7953.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/1cd4fd8e.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/12f4cb0a.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/99245e51.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/cfb9d60f.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/c3964337.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/01e74d62.jpg There are three things about it that I don't like though. 1. No bayonet lug from the factory 2. Oversized pins in fire control group 3. Stupid sear block... Plus side: 1-7 govt barrel Pre Ban It's a factory colt Case deflector, I'm left handed and it comes in handy I love mine and I shoot it more than my sp-1's. Good score and love the Italian proof marks. Last rifle I had with Italian proof marks was an M-1 garand made by pb beretta. Very nice rifle, centurian318. |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 6:50:50 AM
[Last Edit: 8/6/2012 6:51:23 AM by Bizio]
Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Originally Posted By Bizio:
Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Great news!!! Like my rifle, you could add an original style front pushpin, detent and spring. Your rifle is drilled for it!!!! Right now, your rifle has a front pin that is held in with a screw, so if you want to take the upper receiver off of the rifle, you must unscrew the front pin. BUT if you buy a front detent pin, a detent spring and a military ( or "normal") AR-15 front push pin you can make your rifle take down like an industry standard AR-15/M16. Thank you, desertmoon. I thought all Colt Model R6551 could accept a milspec front detent pin. Anyway I prefer to keep it original as it is for collection reasons. Ahh, excellent. Just thought you might like to know just in case you wanted to change it. Have you shot it yet???? I generally prefer to keep firearms original as they came out of factory, especially this Colt which is really hard to find in Italy. I kept as it is also my other Colt rifle, a Match Target HBAR of 2000. 
I made few changes like handguards, stock to my Bushmaster XM15E2S 16" and no mods to my Bushmaster XM15E2S Target 20" Just went yesterday to the range to test my Colt Sporter Target Model, I used S&B 55 Grs military surplus rounds. This is the result at 100 m. / 110 Yards 
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Posted: 8/6/2012 1:29:28 PM
[Last Edit: 8/6/2012 1:32:41 PM by centurian318]
Originally Posted By Bizio:
Originally Posted By centurian318:
My truck rifle http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/842b7953.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/1cd4fd8e.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/12f4cb0a.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/99245e51.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/cfb9d60f.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/c3964337.jpg http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad209/centurian9126/01e74d62.jpg There are three things about it that I don't like though. 1. No bayonet lug from the factory 2. Oversized pins in fire control group 3. Stupid sear block... Plus side: 1-7 govt barrel Pre Ban It's a factory colt Case deflector, I'm left handed and it comes in handy I love mine and I shoot it more than my sp-1's. Good score and love the Italian proof marks. Last rifle I had with Italian proof marks was an M-1 garand made by pb beretta. Very nice rifle, centurian318. Thank you sir Have you tried this? IBZ |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 5:41:58 PM
[Last Edit: 8/6/2012 5:42:52 PM by jcrowl]
Very nice rifle! I had one like it back around 1990. The reason it has no bayonet lug is this. After the infamous Stockton schoolyard shooting in early 1989, Bush banned all foreign imports of so called semi-auto assault weapons. The original Colt Industries (which at that point firearms were only 5% of their business) went along with the idea and stopped production of the AR-15. When Colt Industries sold the firearms division to the group which reopened it as Colt's Mfg. Co., Colt brought out the AR-15 again, only without the bayonet lug so it wouldn't look so warlike or dangerous I think. This was before the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.
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