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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:16:51 PM EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUjPeAgvf3U

Fast forward to 11:25. Wow. Pretty cool. I am sure there are others out there, just threw me for a loop when I saw that.
Link Posted: 9/4/2014 6:37:59 AM EDT
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Wish my LWRC came apart that easy...
Link Posted: 9/4/2014 3:22:17 PM EDT
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That's pretty cool. Love my A3 and since my local dealer just come out with a wicked deal on A2's- A2 Special!- I'll be buying another L-Dub.
Link Posted: 9/4/2014 7:01:52 PM EDT
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That's pretty cool. Love my A3 and since my local dealer just come out with a wicked deal on A2's- A2 Special!- I'll be buying another L-Dub.
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That is a screaming good deal. All you need to do is remove the bullet button.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 1:45:28 PM EDT
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Wow, they used a short stroke piston system. Just like half the infantry rifles in the last 50 years. How ground breaking.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 2:14:52 PM EDT
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Wow, they used a short stroke piston system. Just like half the infantry rifles in the last 50 years. How ground breaking.
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Ummmmm, I thought it was interesting and I bet others did. Thanks for the snarky comment.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 8:05:19 PM EDT
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Ummmmm, I thought it was interesting and I bet others did. Thanks for the snarky comment.
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Ummmmm, I thought it was interesting and I bet others did. Thanks for the snarky comment.


While it is interesting, his comment did make me laugh.
Link Posted: 9/12/2014 9:54:57 PM EDT
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Is that link supposed to go to a $2350 rifle and if so how much is that usually that it's such a good deal at $2350?
Link Posted: 9/13/2014 7:38:46 AM EDT
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They recently had a 20% off special. Special is over now.
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 8:29:08 AM EDT
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Yeah, the Gew 43 and all these other new-age weapons are just copies of the original Soviet warhorse, the SVT-38 (and SVT-40 and AVT).
It was so advanced when it came out, only some elite communist combatants could understand how to properly maintain and employ it as the advanced killing machine it was designed to be. (OK, so maybe that speaks volumes about the period Red Army, and not so much the weapon).
Anyway, it's interesting when you look at the history of small arms developments. The Germans (their engineers) were absolutely terrified of drilling a hole in the barrel for a gas port. They were like the anti-gas-port. They thought somehow this would weaken the barrel, and start hairline fractures at the port, unless cost-prohibitive awesome steel was used, etc...
The Americans did it with the Garand and it held up just fine. Then the Russians did it. They weren't as skeptical anymore, and it finally happened with the FG-42, a Luftwaffe (air force) development. After the abysmal failure of the Gew 41, it was redesigned as the Gew 43, with a gas port and the SVT gas system.
The SVT was still the better rifle, and many were captured and put into German service on the Eastern Front. They did this so much it was given a German designator, and their arsenals trained armorers in their inspection. Captured weapons were then inspected and arsenal-stamped for approval, time-permitting of course.





Soviet Naval Infantry, which by 1941 were completely moderately armed with automatic weapons, to include SVT, AVT, PPD, PPSh-41, DP lmg, and Tokarev pistols.



In my best Hudson voice, "Don't worry. Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you!"
British forces at this time were almost completely armed with bolt-actions, revolvers, fixed-position machineguns. (Some Many did have the Lewis gun Bren. 40,000 MkI Brens had been made and the MkII was rapidly being fielded, after nearly 23,000 Bren Guns were lost during the fall of France in 1940).
US forces were receiving updated (fixed/improved) M1 Garands by January 1941, and the US Army was considered fully equipped by the end of 1941 at 567,060 M1 rifles. US forces had the BAR as well as M1911(A1) pistols for all frontline units.
The USSR had produced 1,220,000 SVT's by the end of 1941, but apparently Naval Infantry units were not elite enough to have received the bulk of them by 1941. Guard units were initially favored for SVT issue, over the targeted infantry forces distribution ratio of 1:3. In 1942-1943 Naval Infantry proved to be epic like Guard Units, and both were then given preferential SVT issuance. Neither stopped using Mosin Nagants completely though.
Edited due to inaccuracies pointed out by RogueJSK (C&R Forum).





 
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 6:51:46 PM EDT
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Yeah, the Gew 43 and all these other new-age weapons are just copies of the original Soviet warhorse, the SVT-38 (and SVT-40 and AVT).

It was so advanced when it came out, only some elite communist combatants could understand how to properly maintain and employ it as the advanced killing machine it was designed to be. (OK, so maybe that speaks volumes about the period Red Army, and not so much the weapon).

Anyway, it's interesting when you look at the history of small arms developments. The Germans (their engineers) were absolutely terrified of drilling a hole in the barrel for a gas port. They were like the anti-gas-port. They thought somehow this would weaken the barrel, and start hairline fractures at the port, unless cost-prohibitive awesome steel was used, etc...

The Americans did it with the Garand and it held up just fine. Then the Russians did it. They weren't as skeptical anymore, and it finally happened with the FG-42, a Luftwaffe (air force) development. After the abysmal failure of the Gew 41, it was redesigned as the Gew 43, with a gas port and the SVT gas system.

The SVT was still the better rifle, and many were captured and put into German service on the Eastern Front. They did this so much it was given a German designator, and their arsenals trained armorers in their inspection. Captured weapons were then inspected and arsenal-stamped for approval, time-permitting of course.

http://pbeyecandy.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/svt-squad.jpg
Soviet Naval Infantry, which by 1941 were completely moderately armed with automatic weapons, to include SVT, AVT, PPD, PPSh-41, DP lmg, and Tokarev pistols.
In my best Hudson voice, "Don't worry. Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you!"

British forces at this time were almost completely armed with bolt-actions, revolvers, fixed-position machineguns. (Some Many did have the Lewis gun Bren. 40,000 MkI Brens had been made and the MkII was rapidly being fielded, after nearly 23,000 Bren Guns were lost during the fall of France in 1940).

US forces were receiving updated (fixed/improved) M1 Garands by January 1941, and the US Army was considered fully equipped by the end of 1941 at 567,060 M1 rifles. US forces had the BAR as well as M1911(A1) pistols for all frontline units.

The USSR had produced 1,220,000 SVT's by the end of 1941, but apparently Naval Infantry units were not elite enough to have received the bulk of them by 1941. Guard units were initially favored for SVT issue, over the targeted infantry forces distribution ratio of 1:3. In 1942-1943 Naval Infantry proved to be epic like Guard Units, and both were then given preferential SVT issuance. Neither stopped using Mosin Nagants completely though.

Edited due to inaccuracies pointed out by RogueJSK (C&R Forum).
 
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Awesome post. This is good stuff. No wonder they say the Piston AR is as reliable as an AK47.... it was designed by Russians! haha
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