I plan on using this rifle for target aka shooting paper and other targets, do i need a piston rifle ?nope. do i want one yeap! So I am 80percent set on Adcor saw them at the NRA AM Mike brown is awesome at demoing the rifle! Any how I was looking at LWRCI talked to them at the show It was a solid rifle I was not that impressed with there pitch If my memory serves me they had superior coating technogly Ni Corr or something like that. The Barrett Rec7 was a solid rifle and I am still considering it. I really wanted to look and touch some LMT rifles and I could not believe they where not at the show. The Value of the Adcor Bear Elite seems pretty good its not 2499 its 1800 and i hope to get one for 1600 I dont work for adcor but the fact that they where producing 1000 uppers a day for colt is pretty impressive I looked at Daniel Defense and I tried to talk to the rep but he was tired or something he was not very excited about the product. I'm sure that Stag DPMS and RRA all make a GREAT product but I am looking for a amazing rifle and a accurrate one as well. I am asking for advice I am not looking for brand X is a good'in lol which i get when i call the gun shops or the boss has a " X " and he likes it. Why is the rifle good what technology makes it great? And if i could request 0 thats a Zero flaming other brands or products yeah that would be great. I mean no disrespect to any brands! Thanks In Advance

John

If you shop around, you can get an LWRC upper for under 1500, complete with Troy's, so you're set there.

Then you can whittle up your own lower with the exact stock you want, for under 500, and you're set.

I have two LWRC's, and a buddy has one too. Fantasic rifles. MOA at 100, no jams, well built, and a good reputation among those who have fired 1000's of rounds out of it.

I started out wanting a Sig 516 then a LWRCI M6A2 to a Barrett Rec7 and im sorta down to the Rec7 and the adcor just looking for reccomendations. so i have been doing my homework.

I came here in 2010 and asked the same question seeking advise.

I had pretty much settled on the LWRC M6A2 but when someone suggested I check PWS I did so. (I had never heard of them)
I like the fact it has a completely different gas system which puts the weight over the bolt and not the muzzle making it feel more like a DI than a piston and the gun is lighter. It is also a simple gas system, less to go wrong (although it is rare to hear about any makes having piston problems
I also liked the fact I could add a Geissele enhanced trigger and slap on an EOTech 512 and still have ammo money over the M6A2
While satisfied with the PWS I then bough a "cheap" piston the Sig 516 and it ran flawless.

LWRC seemed to like the light weight balance of the PWS and brought out the SPR a very sweet rifle. (Just seemed like a counter but IMO)
I was set to order SPR and got a great out the door price of $2200.00 (I had sold the Sig to deputy because he was very impressed with 100% function)
It dawned on me why I bought the PWS in the first place and decided to get a second one and yes, for less money I put a Geissele and an EOTech 512 on that puppy as well.
Biggest problem with a PWS is the wait after placing an order. They are backed up

If there is any way you can sample various pistons at a range you may find what best suits you.

My opinion is just that, there are others and frankly every gun you are considering is an exceptional weapon and I can not imagine you being unhappy with any choice.

Wulfmann

Also at 1800 bucks I can get the Bear Elite vs the Base model stripped down LWRCI (j/k about the stripped down part ) so the Elite has the FN Barrel, 7075-T6 aluminum alloy receivers and rail systems, Free-floating barrel, foward charging handle, Tool-less field strip design and Ejection port dust wiper. VS the LWRCI
With its Nicorr coatings and and slightly better barrel. I would guess its like the dealer saying you can have this fully loaded toyota or the base model lexus with no frills.... Thanks

So Adcor does not make everything in house ?I thought they did.. the adcor has be tested by H P White to fire 6k rounds no failures while thats not 20k I being the noob still think thats impressive. Adcor says on there site Aircraft-grade 7075-T6 aluminum alloy receivers and rail systems so I dont know that that is everything but ...I am not sure what a BUIS is ?

So the LWRCI that compares is the M6-SL price wise and it says The most distinct feature of the SL is the barrel. The barrel still utilizes LWRCI's NiCorr surface conversion technology on a cold-hammer-forged barrel, but the barrel is of a smaller diameter to reduce weight.

The SL comes standard with the EXO (nickel-boron) plated Advanced Combat Bolt, one piece EXO coated carrier, and the EXO coated enhanced fire control group. The SL also comes standard with a Daniel Defense A1.5 fixed rear sight and a fixed A2 front sight post.
I am not trying to argue with you I would simply like to know if that base model is better then the adcor. I wish some one like nutnfancy would review the Adcor...

Very nice!

Please educate me.
I believe I can say the same thing about a PWS.
What is it I need to buy to get my MK114 up to a higher standard?
I see absolutely nothing in that regard that differs from LWRC (except about $800.00 and a muzzle heavy gun)

Also an LWRC trigger sux maybe not as bad as others but everyone I have pulled needs replacing so like a PWS or most other ARs adding a Geissele two stage is a must but IMO

I happen to also agree the Bear is a nice rifle priced right and top notch.

I also agree most lowers are simply a place to hang the stock and grip you prefer and where the trigger gets replaced with a Geissele as well as where the magazine goes but it is the added parts that matter not the lower itself so if you have a lower by all means getting an upper is fine but the notion this or that brand is made to work with any lower well here is a news flash:
they all can

Wulfmann