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Posted: 3/2/2017 6:43:19 PM EDT
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Primary Arms is very proud to announce our new Gen III 1-6x24 Second Focal Plane scope! Our previous 1-6x was a flagship optic for us and we knew it would be tough act to follow, so we worked hard to make incremental but real improvements to the Gen III. What’s different? • Lifetime Warranty (Gen II was 3 years) • Improved ACSS reticle using chevron center instead of dot • 18mm shorter than Gen II • 1.88 ounces lighter than Gen II • 10 MOA increase in internal windage/elevation adjustment (50 MOA total) • Slightly wider field of view than Gen II LINK TO BUY, $289.99 We believe the patented Advanced Combined Sighting System reticle is the most advanced reticle in the world. Here’s what it looks like in the Gen III 1-6x. It’s a laser etched reticle so it works fine with illumination off, but when you twist the knob to one of the 11 brightness settings, the center section turns red as shown, powered by a standard CR2032 battery. Illumination is daylight bright at the highest settings. We upgraded the Gen III reticle to a chevron center aiming point, replacing the dot in the center of the Gen II. If you make a center dot large for fast acquisition, it covers up the exact part of the target you are trying to hit, especially at longer distances. You can gain precision by making the dot smaller, but then the dot quickly becomes more difficult for the eye to find. Using the tip of the chevron gives you an infinitely small point of aim that doesn’t obscure the target, while the size of the chevron itself can be large enough for your eye to pick up quickly. We surround the chevron with a thick horseshoe for snap shooting up close at 1x or low power. If you’re at short distances and time is paramount, simply frame the target with the horseshoe and let fly. Underneath the chevron is the bullet drop compensation ladder, reaching out to 800 yards, as explained in blue on the diagram. Next to the BDC are wind hold dots calibrated for a 5mph wind. Two large dots on each side of the horseshoe are moving target leads, calibrated for a target moving perpendicular to you at 8.6mph. Having the BDC there is great if you know your distance to the target. If range to target is unknown, you need to figure that out first, and quick! ACSS has two types of ranging built in. What looks like a flag on the right is a ranging scale calibrated for 5’10” tall targets. Line up the target bottom at the base of the “flag” as shown in green on the diagram, and estimate distance based on the line matching the top of the target. If the target fits best between the bottom of the flag and the second line from the top of the flag, then it is about 500 yards away from you. That is “vertical ranging.” What if you can’t see the bottom of the target because of tall grass, for example? We also incorporated “horizontal ranging” in the flag and also on the BDC. An 18” wide target facing you squarely will fit into the width of those hash marks at the correct range. Incorporating this into our BDC gives the ACSS an awesome “auto ranging” function that no other reticle offers—if your 18” wide target fits nicely in the “500” hash on the BDC ladder, then it is 500 yards away and you are already on target and ready to fire. The Gen III 1-6x24 is a second focal plane scope, so the ACSS reticle will stay the same size regardless of what magnification the optic is set to. The BDC, wind holds, and range estimation are calibrated to work properly at 6x power, since those features are most useful at long distances where you are more likely to want maximum magnification anyway. The Gen III features a quick adjust ocular to keep the reticle sharp at all times, 0.5 MOA clicks with finger-adjustable resettable zero turrets, and a 30mm main tube size. Primary Arms is proud to offer our Limited Lifetime Warranty with this scope while keeping the price down at just $289.99. They are in stock now and ready to purchase at THIS LINK. |
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Boom Chaka Laka!
Looks like a nice upgrade. I was wondering why the Gen II's just went on sale. I love this reticle and wish all my optics had it. This scope is also great for those of us that have astigmatism issues. |
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Nice!
Where did the approximate 2oz. in weight reduction come from? By the way, I like the style of the new caps. Does the rear cap stay on well? Ever since I received it, mine comes off every other time I flip it (Gen II). Bill |
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Love the reticle . Been wanting to try a nice 1-6 ar this price point I can try it out without any fear of buyers remorse. Awesome.
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Dislike the Chevron . . . Just go with a simple crosshair reticle al la Strike Eagle.
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Might be great to cerakote for our monthly shop build.
Should send one our way! |
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Nice! Where did the approximate 2oz. in weight reduction come from? By the way, I like the style of the new caps. Does the rear cap stay on well? Ever since I received it, mine comes off every other time I flip it (Gen II). Bill View Quote It's shorter. The old heavier looking caps are tougher but yes they took more pressure to open and that often caused them to pop off. |
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What is the eye relief on this scope and how forgiving is the eye box?
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Great idea! I was waiting for this actually but I didn't know if it would come. I will be using this when I put together another build
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Yeah after seeing my buddies Gen 1 and how much he loves it and now seeing this. I will have to buy one.
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Oh, don't tease me PA. I already have two gen II's. Damn you.
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What is the eye relief on this scope and how forgiving is the eye box? View Quote Eye relief on this one is 3.3in - 3.5in. Exit pupil is 9mm at 1x, tapering to 4mm at 6x. Exit pupil isn't EXACTLY the same as eyebox of course, but it's something that can be quantified at least. At 1x it is pretty darn fast to acquire, in my opinion. At 6x you'll want to have a consistent cheekweld, but it isn't a picky annoying scope where you are constantly fighting shadows trying to get a clean image all around. I hate that. I wish there was a way to quantify eyebox and put a number on it that manufacturers could print on the side of the box. It's so important, but so misunderstood too. |
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Is this new 1-6 going to be available in FDE ? If so when ? View Quote FDE will be one of the colors offered later in the year, along with a "Wolf Grey" that we really like. Our R&D team is working on perfecting the color, choosing an FDE hue to match FDE products from other manufacturers is really problematic. |
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Eye relief on this one is 3.3in - 3.5in. Exit pupil is 9mm at 1x, tapering to 4mm at 6x. Exit pupil isn't EXACTLY the same as eyebox of course, but it's something that can be quantified at least. At 1x it is pretty darn fast to acquire, in my opinion. At 6x you'll want to have a consistent cheekweld, but it isn't a picky annoying scope where you are constantly fighting shadows trying to get a clean image all around. I hate that. I wish there was a way to quantify eyebox and put a number on it that manufacturers could print on the side of the box. It's so important, but so misunderstood too. View Quote Nice...thanks |
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FDE will be one of the colors offered later in the year, along with a "Wolf Grey" that we really like. Our R&D team is working on perfecting the color, choosing an FDE hue to match FDE products from other manufacturers is really problematic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is this new 1-6 going to be available in FDE ? If so when ? FDE will be one of the colors offered later in the year, along with a "Wolf Grey" that we really like. Our R&D team is working on perfecting the color, choosing an FDE hue to match FDE products from other manufacturers is really problematic. Geez! Now I'm definitely going to get one to replace my Gen II on my lightweight FDE build. Quit coming out with good stuff! FWIW, go with Aero Precision FDE color to match my mount. |
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So no improvement in the brightness during daylight shooting? Just bought and mounted your Gen 2 model of this scope and took it out yesterday on a new AR and the lit reticle was useless at 11 power. Was hoping this new one had a brighter reticle.
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So no improvement in the brightness during daylight shooting? Just bought and mounted your Gen 2 model of this scope and took it out yesterday on a new AR and the lit reticle was useless at 11 power. Was hoping this new one had a brighter reticle. View Quote Correct no change to illumination technology. In sun bright enough to wash out the illumination best to just turn it off and use the black reticle. I only use the illumination at 1X no matter what the ambient lighting. |
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Wow. I've not had any problem with illumination on my Gen2 scope...even in bright sun.
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Are the turret values the same as the previous generations? If so any tips to keep them in place if you wanted to?
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Can we get some pics of the grey version if at all possible? View Quote Don't have any good pics, as the production versions have not arrived yet. Here is a video from SHOT Show featuring the prototype that we brought there. Primary Arms - SHOT Show Product Spotlight | 2017 SHOT Show |
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Right.. I understand the concept of the optic and agree about its use. Just curious if anyone has taken the plunge to glue them or come up with some other method to lock them in place. Great optic. I'm 100% satisfied with mine for the money spent.
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I bought one of the GenIIs on close-out. Awesome product....
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Great stuff - is the 300blk model listed at 289.99 also a gen 3 with Chevron? ( Specs seem to indicate so, but it wasn't explicitly mentioned in the specs)
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http://i.imgur.com/ERHQvR6l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qRS7sOhl.jpg Review should be up this week View Quote Were you able to compare it to your other scopes in a similar range (1-4 or 1-6)? |
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Yes the 300BO is the Gen III body and latest reticle. Also Lifetime warranty View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Mine came a couple of days ago but I have not had the chance to mount it yet. Looks very nice for the money.
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Nice looking scope. Looking for a few new ones. Might pick one up soon.
Great job as usual PA! |
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http://i.imgur.com/ERHQvR6l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qRS7sOhl.jpg Review should be up this week View Quote Boom! Primary Arms 1-6x Gen 3 Scope With ACSS Reticle Review (HD) |
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Is the 300 BO true 1x? Any differences other than the reticle?
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Nice review!
I was thinking about getting a Gen II while they were on sale. Glad I waited. |
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The .300 Blackout version uses a large chevron instead of the smaller chevron plus donut of the 5.56 reticle. Sorry but I don't have a lead time on FDE units yet. Here's our reticle tutorial for the .300 Blackout reticle showing how to use it with supers vs subsonics, ranging, etc.
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This seems to be a nice scope. What weight bullets did they use to determine the bullet drops and barrel length? I was also wondering the height of the scope mounted above the bore? I'm thinking about get one for a 5.56 but need to know this data before jumping out and purchasing one. We all know how bullet drop changes from different grain bullets and barrel length for stability.
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This seems to be a nice scope. What weight bullets did they use to determine the bullet drops and barrel length? I was also wondering the height of the scope mounted above the bore? I'm thinking about get one for a 5.56 but need to know this data before jumping out and purchasing one. We all know how bullet drop changes from different grain bullets and barrel length for stability. View Quote Take a look and if we need more detail I will ask Dimiti the designer to join the thread. http://www.primaryarms.com/pa1-6x24sfp-acss-5-56 |
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Thanks Marshall, I will be purchasing one very soon. This will complete my Recce for sure.
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Sure wish it was available without the range estimator on the side of the reticle. Never use the range estimator on mine, esp for 3 gun matches. Only obstructs the lens/view......
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About 250 hrs. remember it is not a red dot you don;t need the illumination to see the reticle. China View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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whats the battery life? what country makes the glass? China However, I think shooting past 200 yards with Chinese glass would be less than optimal. And at 500 yards it would be terrible. But, for the cost I guess its not too bad of an option. |
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Battery life shouldn't be an issue then. However, I think shooting past 200 yards with Chinese glass would be less than optimal. And at 500 yards it would be terrible. But, for the cost I guess its not too bad of an option. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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whats the battery life? what country makes the glass? China However, I think shooting past 200 yards with Chinese glass would be less than optimal. And at 500 yards it would be terrible. But, for the cost I guess its not too bad of an option. |
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I have had a PA 1-4 30mm for 6 years now. For the money, its a very nice scope. I fortunately am in a place where I can spend a little more on glass, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy this scope.
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Battery life shouldn't be an issue then. However, I think shooting past 200 yards with Chinese glass would be less than optimal. And at 500 yards it would be terrible. But, for the cost I guess its not too bad of an option. View Quote Fast forward to 2017 and a lot has changed. For example, here's one of my favorite videos of our products, this is the guys from Insane Accuracy running an M1a with one of our 4-14x44 FFP 308 scopes mounted. They start at a thousand yards and work their way down to 250 yards without ever touching a turret or counting clicks, just using the BDC and holdovers. That's a scope we have in stock right now for $279.99 and it'll survive indefinitely on that .308. M1-A Running Plates FAST - 1,000 YDS to 250 YDS - Insane Accuracy.com Obviously I'm not even remotely trying to be unbiased here. I mostly just enjoy sharing this old video when I get the chance. :) |
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